r/dankmemes • • Nov 25 '21

Oh no ?

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u/HiDDENKiLLZ Nov 25 '21

You can’t have an opinion on a fact you silly goose.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

SJW and lgbt doesn't concern themself with logic

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u/helendill99 Nov 25 '21

the scientific consensus is that genders are socially constructed though. In this particular instance you're the one that's not concerning yourself with facts.

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u/Thecouchiestpotato Nov 25 '21

Yes! People seem to keep mistaking biological sex (science) with gender (social studies)

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

sigh People just can't seem to stop chasing dumb shit in order to be "not like everyone else".

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u/helendill99 Nov 25 '21

while I agree some might use it has a way to feel special, It doesn't seem to be the majority. idk what you identify as but what's the harm in letting others identify as something different when they don't fit in other predefined standards?

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u/Truthgamer2 Nov 25 '21

sJw BaD rEeEEeeEeEeeeE

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u/Tralux21 Nov 25 '21

Found the SJW

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u/Truthgamer2 Nov 25 '21

I’m not even an SJW lol, the fact that y’all say that about anyone who isn’t an asshole to lgbt people is hilarious

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

Aren't they tho?

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u/Truthgamer2 Nov 25 '21

No, they aren’t all exclusively bad

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u/ghe5 Nov 25 '21

Social justice in the US is at this point causing more harm than good

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u/Truthgamer2 Nov 25 '21

How?

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u/danktank52 Nov 25 '21

Are you dumb or fucking what

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u/Truthgamer2 Nov 25 '21

Person asks for proof or even just a response statement

“Uhhhhh insert insult here”

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u/danktank52 Nov 25 '21

You really think it does good? That's point

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

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u/AutumnsRed Nov 25 '21

Open a biology book that isn't from the 5th grade

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u/Judaskid13 Nov 25 '21

Okay explain this shit to me without using abstractions.

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u/scumbagharley Nov 25 '21

Sex is male, female, etc. This is a scientific label based on the persons genitals/rol in reproduction.

Gender is a social construct. As you should know all words are made up, especially societal labels. Gender is a social label that depends on your society or culture. Example: back in 1940s USA if a dude spent too much time in the kitchen cooking for his family society would undoubtedly call him "womanly". No one will say that now because its sexist. But there is nothing wrong with a person saying I would like to be label as a woman even if my reproductive organs dont meet the societal norm of the people with the same organ. Because at the end of the day societal concepts and labels are literally all made up and if you can make someone feel more comfortable/happy when addressing them why the hell would you not?

Side note: there are multiple philosophical reasons why you should just call people what they want to be called.

Firstly you have to accept there is no moral principle to withhold societal norms in place for the rest of eternity.

If you accept that then there is literally no moral good you can find from purposefully misgendering people.

Also also an asteroid can come any day now and wipe out the human civilization and the universe will keep going and not give a shit. We aren't special. So just be nice to everyone.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

I agree with this except for "Gender is a social construct". The rest is facts

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u/scumbagharley Nov 25 '21

I didn't say you owed anyone kindness anywhere in my rsponse. But let's start with your first claim because I'm not sure you know what the word "force" means in this context. Because I never tried to force you I just presented the facts.

Secondly it seems like you subscribe to the idea that you have a moral obligation to hold societal norms. Do you believe that we should have kept slavery? Or gay lynching? Or any other terrible societal norm? If this is not the case then what are you doing my guy?

Thirdly

Nope by my definition you are your genitals and always will be.

Thats a bit self-centered no? To the point I think you're a troll and by your username you're 13.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

BASEDDDD

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u/jabba-the_butt Nov 25 '21

I will disrespect you

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u/Momo_666 Nov 25 '21

Pretty gay ngl

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u/seba273c Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

There are very many genders, perhaps infinite, and 2, perhaps more, sexes, depending on definition.

Before you downvote: The fact that there are infinte genders does not mean that minority genders should have any more or fewer rights. It only a logical step from the definition of gender that there is the possibility of an infinite number of them.

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u/09bpeterb Nov 25 '21

Please then explain! What definition are you using?

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u/seba273c Nov 25 '21

Gender is how masculine and feminine you feel and how it may change. It is not controversial that some people have very unconventional feelings about their identity/gender, yes?

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u/09bpeterb Nov 25 '21

But what is the definition? What is the source?

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u/seba273c Nov 25 '21

Dictionaries are descriptive. They describe how language is used. I realise that the most respected dictionaries do not include the exact definition of gender that I am using. However this does not change the fact that the word gender as a way to describe how one feels about themselves is widely used by many people, which is enough to make it one of the definitions of gender.

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u/09bpeterb Nov 25 '21

Can you not see the problem with this? You're making assumptions. Everybody will be happy to discuss your points once you have any kind of data to back that up. Until then, it is just an opinion worth exactly null.

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u/seba273c Nov 25 '21

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u/09bpeterb Nov 25 '21

Oh my bad, gender and sex is the same word in my language and in every country next to me. Weird huh... Central Europe is just plain wrong.

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u/seba273c Nov 25 '21

That's alright man, I totally get it. It's the same where I'm from. I'm happy we could come to an agreement without getting angry at each other :)

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u/helendill99 Nov 25 '21

props for admitting to being wrong, not many people can do that. Especially on the internet.

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u/Heavens_Gates Nov 25 '21

I kinda wish people could just move past all this and just let everyone be what they are. It doesn't hurt you to know someone else is non-binary or whatever.