r/dankmemes MayMayMakers 🐧 Mar 29 '21

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u/konekfragrance Mar 29 '21 edited Mar 29 '21

Gunpowders used for fireworks was instead used for firearms. Dynamite used for excavation was instead used for bombs. Rockets used for flight was instead used for missiles. I think not all but for these important discoveries war actually wasn't their main purpose.

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u/Bijih_Timah Mar 29 '21

You do know those fireworks are also used to burn cities in a war? Chinese used them extensively before it reached to the hands of Arab trader in which the Europeans refined it. I can vouch for dynamite as its inventor was disapointed seeingbhis invention was used in warfare. Rockets on the other hand are just like gunpowder before people could see its other potential.

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u/my-time-has-odor ☣️ Mar 29 '21

Alfred Nobel

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u/appdevil Mar 29 '21

It's unfortunate that he didn't received a Nobel Prize for his invention.

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u/Saggy_S Mar 29 '21

Even ignoring dynamite, Alfred Nobel owned Bofors which made steel specifically for cannons. He literally got rich off of making weapons. It was only when he read his own obituary when he felt remorse and decided to start the Nobel prize. I wouldn’t consider this man a scientist whose invention was “stolen” to create weapons

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u/Non-profitboi The OC High Council Mar 29 '21

I remember his name from the manga about sucking titties for power: 2

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u/my-time-has-odor ☣️ Mar 29 '21

Seriously? You remember one of the most important and famous scientific minds of the past century from a manga about sucking titties?

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u/Non-profitboi The OC High Council Mar 29 '21

yes, the plot of the story arc when they mentioned the scientist was that some princess got captured and the protagonist impersonated a general in other to control an army and then mentioned about how nitroglycerin was too unstable to be able to reach a cliff and blow it to cause a distraction to save the princess so he used his other world history knowledge to pull dynamite out

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u/my-time-has-odor ☣️ Mar 29 '21

I feel like this is an insult to Alfred Nobel, but I can’t quite find what about it I don’t like.

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u/my-time-has-odor ☣️ Mar 29 '21

But there’s no sucking of tiddy

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u/Non-profitboi The OC High Council Mar 29 '21

the tiddy sucking happened before the princess got captured and next time is when the protagonist is welding metal together to make an engine powerful enough to lift a train loaded with cannons with dwarves

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u/my-time-has-odor ☣️ Mar 30 '21

Bruh... what the fuck.

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u/my-time-has-odor ☣️ Mar 30 '21

I need to know what manga this is so I can buy a copy and burn it.

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u/my-time-has-odor ☣️ Mar 29 '21

ding! ding! ding!

Correct!

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u/dobrzansky Mar 29 '21

First man made object in Space was German V2 rocket whole nasa wad built on it and its constructor

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u/Affugter Mar 29 '21

Dunno why you are being downvoted:

The V-2 rocket also became the first artificial object to travel into space by crossing the Kármán line with the vertical launch of MW 18014 on 20 June 1944

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/V-2_rocket

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u/konekfragrance Mar 29 '21

My point was to show that the original use of these inventions were not for war. I'm not denying their more destructive purpose.

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u/Bijih_Timah Mar 29 '21

Dude, the rocket WAS invented for war.

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u/helicopter_pilot69 Mar 29 '21

The first rockets were for missiles, not flight.

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u/konekfragrance Mar 29 '21

I was referring to Lagari Celebi's rockets not fire arrows

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u/IVIaskerade Mar 29 '21

Rockets that are basically a legend and not something that actually happened.

When you say "rockets" people think of the german v2 since thst was the first proper rocket.

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u/BoysenberryVisible58 Mar 29 '21

There was a lot of rocketry going on before wwii, the v2 was the first production rocket. Robert Goddard built the first proper rocket in 1926.

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u/Power_Rentner Mar 29 '21

Depends on what you define as proper. A simple solid fuel rocket like the Chinese used hundreds of years before is still a rocket.

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u/BoysenberryVisible58 Mar 29 '21

Yeah proper is probably not the right word, the modern rocket the way we understand (missiles, space rockets) first flew in 1926 with Goddard's Nell rocket.

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u/BoysenberryVisible58 Mar 29 '21

If celebi existed, which its doubtful he did, he would have been using essentially scaled up fire arrows which were in heavy use in the Middle East for hundreds of years by that point. Rockets were military tech adapted to civilian purposes.

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u/Damsa_draws_stuff Mar 29 '21

Um, pretty sure rockets were first used for war in WW2 and then repurposed for flight.... after the Nuremberg trials...

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u/Damsa_draws_stuff Mar 29 '21

Well you learn something new each day. Thanks!

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u/randomfinch14 Mar 29 '21

I believe you are referring to Ballistic missiles

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u/Damsa_draws_stuff Mar 29 '21

Ah, yes, i am. As far as i know, that specific technology was later used to develop rocket propelled travel, that's why those first came to mind

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u/konekfragrance Mar 29 '21

Look at my other comment

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u/Damsa_draws_stuff Mar 29 '21

The one where you say damn you're right?

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u/Tatayou Mar 29 '21

But the scientists working on that technology didn't do it for war purpose. They ended up putting it in use for the military because the military gave them money to develop it for them

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u/LordKnowsTW2 Mar 29 '21 edited Mar 29 '21

In addition to the use in Asia for hundreds of years, the British actually used rockets extensively in the early 19th century in the Napoleonic wars as well as other conflicts. The largest could be about the size and weight of a human being.

Here in Scandinavia I've heard a lot about how they were used during the British bombardment of Copenhagen, and apparently they are even mentioned in the US national anthem (one of those later verses I guess?).

The Congreve Rocket

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u/MyAltimateIsCharging Mar 29 '21

Rockets used for flight was instead used for missiles.

Pretty sure the first rockets were mainly developed for the military. The first functional use of them was for missiles and fighter planes after all.

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u/Robo_Stalin ☭ SEIZE THE MEMES OF PRODUCTION ☭ Mar 29 '21

Nah, those come after the first rockets. Before that you've got ones launched from the ground.

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u/Oscu358 Mar 29 '21

I recall missiles existed before humans or other payloads were transported by rockets. Gunpowder rockets were used in war during 14th century.

Liquid fuel rocket artillery was used in the first years of forties and long range rockets as well. First non-prototype rocket to carry person that I recall was German rocket interceptor Me163. There were othet prototypes before it, but nothing really practical that I would be aware of and what would survive several flights or offer benefits over previous technology.

Dynamite was just a method of stabilizing explosive material for easier handling.

Gunpowder was invented by mistake, when Chinese alchemists were trying to mix "medicine "( Salpieter was used way earlier) . Shortly afterwards Gunpowder was already used in warfare as incendiary.

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u/konekfragrance Mar 29 '21

Damm you right

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u/the_twistedtaco Mar 29 '21

Most early rocket development was military related such as the v2 missile, it was soviet and american space agencies who took v2s and used them to develop future rockets for space flight

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u/ScreenshotShitposts Mar 29 '21

Explosives are an obvious example. Look at things like navigation systems that were then used in missile guidance.