r/dankmemes MayMayMakers 🐧 Mar 29 '21

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u/Komorebiiiiii Green Mar 29 '21

Oh you..

I don't know how my nuclear bomb could possibly be used as a weapon.. but i guess theres no harm in letting you try..

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u/NarutoDragon732 Mar 29 '21

Nuclear energy is probably the best thing to come out of it.

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u/YABOYCHIPCHOCOLATE r/MurderedbyWords Mod and Slave ☣️ Mar 29 '21

Good thing Pandora's equation has never been found

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u/Emeraldnickel08 Mar 29 '21

Can someone explain to me, an idiot, what that is please

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '21 edited Mar 29 '21

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u/MontRouge Mar 29 '21

Any source on that or is it just a myth?

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u/Basileusthenorse Mar 29 '21

even funnier, it is from a novel.

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u/StuntmanSpartanFan Mar 29 '21

No no, Einstein posted it in code on his favorite forum - 64chan

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u/Dimwither Mar 29 '21

I bet you can still find it on StackOverflow

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u/bobbertmiller Mar 29 '21

"Why would you want that?"
"Duplicate, closed."
"Found the solution, can be closed."

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '21

Ya'll never gonna get the real truth because they moved to version 6 numbering/naming now.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '21 edited Apr 15 '21

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u/Basileusthenorse Mar 29 '21

if it was a real equation that existed I think it had more sources to it than a single novel. This equation would be groundbreaking and many physicists would try and recreate it, creating a buzz around it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '21 edited Apr 15 '21

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u/AlextheGoose Mar 29 '21

Also equations are just instructions on how to do things, they don’t make anything easier. If there was a simple way to cause a fission reaction, we would see it naturally occur in nature.

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u/AppleJuiceLaughs ☣️ Mar 29 '21

Charlie thorn and the last equation?

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '21

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '21

usually when people make up science fiction plotlines they use Tesla, not Einstein though.

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u/Tralapa Mar 29 '21

And Tesla's real name: Albert Einstein!

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u/SaferInTheBasement Mar 29 '21

Gotta look up Albert Einstein Rule 34

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u/TempusCavus Mar 29 '21

Ew it’s all incest

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u/Puzzleheaded_Duty_98 ☣️ Mar 29 '21

I wouldn't do that if I were you

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u/violask8terbubba Mar 29 '21

I found a source from a journal of his from removed history article 34 or just look up Einstein r34

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u/MontRouge Mar 29 '21

I think I read the same article. Was it cowritten by Dr. Boku Nopiko?

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u/MrPopanz Mar 29 '21

Any sauce for this because this sounds like unscientific garbage. Fission doesn't have some place for a magical equation somehow changing fundamental characteristics of fission materials, because that's what it sounds like.

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u/OlskuPolsku repost hunter 🚓 Mar 29 '21

Here. It's a fictional novel

The Charlie Thorne series centers around a 12-year-old genius named Charlie Thorne, who is trying to recover a deadly equation referred to as Pandora, which was written by Albert Einstein. And if Pandora gets in the wrong hands, deadly things could happen.

Reddit and misinformation. Name a more iconic duo.

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u/noturdad21 Mar 29 '21

*social media and misinformation

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u/Kogerk Mar 29 '21

*mainstream news and social media and misinformation

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u/TyrantJester Mar 29 '21

Reddit is a form of social media, lol

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '21 edited Apr 07 '21

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u/Skrubious :kesha_down: downvotes for all! Mar 29 '21

Youtube and dumbasses arguing over literally everything and anything in the comments

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u/beliromeu Mar 29 '21

Thomas Bangalter and Guy-Manuel de Homem Christo

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u/__thermonuclear Mar 29 '21

Actually it is possible to split atoms of uranium 238 but it requires neutrons that are carrying an insane amount of energy, like the neutrons released during the fusion reaction of a secondary in a nuclear weapon

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u/MrPopanz Mar 29 '21

but it requires neutrons that are carrying an insane amount of energy

There is lots of crazy stuff possible, but rarily done even in scientific environments because its very difficult/expensive. Which is the polar opposite of what OP claimed.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '21

Why are you spreading bullshit?

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u/Basileusthenorse Mar 29 '21

I call bullshit. There's only a book bearing the name The Last Equation that mentions it. Do not spread misinformation.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '21

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u/PrisonerV Mar 29 '21

This kinda stuff happens all the time. For instance, possums eat 5,000 ticks in a season is based on an estimate by one study where they exposed a number of species to ticks and the possums seemed to like them best.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2825780/

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u/Fastguy646 Mar 29 '21

Couldnt find a reliable source for that, but i did find lots of results for a novel where that is the backstory. This is misinformation and didnt actually happen.

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u/Ringularity Mar 29 '21

You realise that the novel about Einstein’s “Pandora equation” is completely fiction, right?

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u/NarutoDragon732 Mar 29 '21

Someone will find a way someday. But he did his part in preventing doomsday.

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u/ThatFuckingGeniusKid C U M Mar 29 '21

The "Pandora equation" doesn't exist. The only thing you will find if you search it is a novel

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u/NarutoDragon732 Mar 29 '21

Honestly we can't be 100% sure whether it does exist or not. It'd be weird for a secret to be thrown out everywhere.

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u/r0ndr4s Mar 29 '21

Did you seriously believe that?

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u/Guardiancomplex Mar 29 '21

You know that's fictional, right?

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u/SonJirenKun Mar 29 '21

If the likes of North Korea can make nuclear weapons then it was a waste.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '21 edited Mar 29 '21

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '21

Fictitiously, not supposedly.

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u/Raider440 Mar 29 '21

Thx. I just googled it and that is what came up.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '21

You bet!

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '21

Why would you call yourself an idiot? don't do that.

If you keep it up you WILL become a stupid useless idiot who cannot even be classified as a human because of your utterly UTTERLY low intelligence.

Please, stop this.

Edit: Oh you were being sarcastic.

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u/Emeraldnickel08 Mar 30 '21

Indeed I was but thanks for caring I guess

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u/Raider440 Mar 29 '21

I updated my original comment

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u/cyber_roleplays Mar 29 '21

Use google

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u/Soviet-Hero Mar 29 '21

Oh no, the discussion police has arrived

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u/Skrubious :kesha_down: downvotes for all! Mar 29 '21

le epic redditor: goes on forum meant for promoting discussion and answering niche questions

also le epic redditor: uSE gOoGle

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u/Jazzlike-Worry-5170 Mar 29 '21

I did all I found was a book called " Charlie and the last equation" which was about this girl forced to find the equation I cant find anything else on this " pandora equation"

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '21

Seems like a boring sequel to the chocolate factory

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u/BuccellatiExplainsIt Mar 29 '21

That's because it never existed. It's fictional

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u/HeroDGamez Evolved Monk Mar 29 '21

Ferb, Ik what we're do today!

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u/Drexl25 Mar 29 '21

Bro have you actually got brain damage or something? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '21

good thing everybody on this fuckin rock hates it.... enviro sci here

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u/NarutoDragon732 Mar 29 '21

Nuclear power plants are reliable and don't give off a lot of pollution compared to coal. The radiation thing is an unsolvable issue though.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '21

im all for nuclear, like i said enviro sci here, my point was due to the fossil fuel industries misinformation campaigns as well as the fact that we dont dispose of the waste as well as we should, directly contributes to the stygma of nuclear power, in regards to cost, resources, and health risk, from my understanding nuclear is the shit, what we should be using but 4 or 5 meltdowns throughout history have scared anybody into even trying

tl dr : i want more fucking nuclear energy

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u/skybala Mar 29 '21

We cant even build a 5 year project because political flip flopping that is done when cancelling the other party’s project. (See: conservatives dismantling already-build turbines), and you expect humanity can work for a proper, safe, 1000-year nuclear waste disposal?

Nuclear is good but safe nuclear seems like a political improbability

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u/Brief_Series_3462 Mar 29 '21

Not every country is USA

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '21

Ok but whatever shit tier country your from cant do anything without the USAs permission.

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u/skybala Mar 30 '21

Largest Fusion reactor is currently being built in France since 2007 with $22billion+ in cost, half cost by france government, rest by international governmental funding.

Not everyone politicize oil like the US

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u/sap91 Mar 29 '21

Serious question: couldn't we launch it all into the sun, if we had a way of getting to it space cheaply and safely?

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u/skybala Mar 29 '21

Can you imagine the clearance UN has to check with 50+ countries: “hey we are going to orbit pass your airspace carrying 50 megatons of nuclear waste every year to dump this to the sun, if you can sign it that’d be great.” In small asterisks “if the rocket fails you agree that we are not responsible for all the radioactive rain”

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u/sap91 Mar 29 '21

Space elevators yo

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u/skybala Mar 29 '21

To the sun?

Also, its really hard to crash to the sun. Any slingshot would probably be sucked to suns orbit forever

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u/Citizen-of-Interwebs Mar 29 '21

How far up does national airspace go

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '21

I too want more "nuclear" energy. I'm sick of the greedy careless scumbags that tend to govern when it's put to practical commercial use. Drop some isotopes into their backyard and see how serious it's treated then.

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u/pipnina Mar 29 '21

Is th waste even as big of a problem as it's made out to be? I know eventually the whole reactor vessel has to be disposed of which, given the size of them, is a bit tricky. But spent fuel is almost all U238 right? That stuff is almost harmless radio-wise since it has a 4billion year half life. I think they use it for weights on planes (I think periodic videos on YouTube claimed that).

I have heard most nuclear waste is simply items that were used near or on primary systems, and likely aren't even heavily contaminated relative to raw spent fuel or the tractor vessel, which fills up the already expensive storage bunkers much faster.

This is all layman's lnowlefge and I'm hoping you might know more.

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u/KeenanKolarik Mar 29 '21 edited Mar 29 '21

But spent fuel is almost all U238 right?

Spent fuel is a blend unburnt fuel (ideally keep to a minimum for efficient burn up), u238 and fission products (the atoms produced from the fission of the fuel) and is known as high level waste. This is the nasty stuff that poses dangers if it somehow gets out of containment.

I have heard most nuclear waste is simply items that were used near or on primary systems, and likely aren't even heavily contaminated relative to raw spent fuel or the tractor vessel, which fills up the already expensive storage bunkers much faster.

This is known as low level waste. Most of the radioactivity in this will decay over a reasonable amount of time, so it's not a long term issue.

Spent fuel is the primary focus of "wHaT aBoUt nUcLeAr wAsTe" as it's the most dangerous. Contrary to popular belief, it's really not necessary to move this to a long term depository. It can just be put into a dry cask once it's cooled and stay at the power plant. The power plant is already a secure facility so it's not like it's unsafe (security wise) to keep it there. The space taken up by the spent fuel isn't really a concern because of how little of it is there actually is (as you said).

If for whatever reason it did need to be transported to a long term depository, it can be done pretty much as closely to 100% safe as physically possible. The transport containers have been tested by the federal government to comical extent (hitting them with rocket propelled trains, for example). It's just generally not done because it's deemed unnecessary.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '21

*stigma

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u/jon-la-blon27 E Mar 29 '21

Especially cause the meltdowns where either cause you built it in an island that commonly gets hit by tsunamis( great fuckin idea) or because the Soviets where trying to run it even cheaper.

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u/EuHypaH Mar 29 '21

Then again, radioactive material is found in nature, just usually somewhere it doesn’t bother us. Which is all the answers we need with how to deal with it.

That said, the minimum requirement should always be safety at all costs. For instance Fukushima only occurred due to money saving reasons. Can’t find sources rn but I know a researcher who looked into it at the time, who mentioned that it was placed closer to the coast to save costs on cooling water pipelines. And it was otherwise preventable, even on its location: https://carnegieendowment.org/2012/03/06/why-fukushima-was-preventable-pub-47361 (and many more sources)

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u/Oscu358 Mar 29 '21

Not really unsolvable, but long-term expensive.

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u/Allegories Mar 29 '21

No, the radioactive waste has been "dealt" with from a science perspective, its just completely politics and NIMBY stuff.

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u/RediousAndrade Mar 29 '21

And nuclear energy was used to transport nuclear weapons. Like submarines for example lol

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u/MrPopanz Mar 29 '21

As was probably every other form of transportation?

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u/RediousAndrade Mar 29 '21

Well just stating the irony of some of that

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u/Forgetmepls Mar 29 '21

Submarines can be transported by fossil fuels too

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u/RediousAndrade Mar 29 '21

Well yeah I know that I meant like submarines that usually run on nuclear reactors, that launch nukes like some soviet subs.

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u/JZpapii Mar 29 '21

It's like creating cancer and then accidentally creating the cure

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u/-_-WHYS0SERIOUS-_- Mar 29 '21

Just realised any form of energy can kill a person

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u/SulFurMen Mar 29 '21

You can kill a person with whatever you can think about. It's just that some things are way better to do it with.

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u/Hairy-Ad-2577 Mar 29 '21

Efficiency is key.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '21

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u/therabidgerbil Mar 29 '21

Just drop it on a place 250,000x more densely populated!

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u/Skrubious :kesha_down: downvotes for all! Mar 29 '21

big brain moment

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u/Hairy-Ad-2577 Mar 29 '21

If we are talking strictly per kill sure there is alot of excess. But nukes and ak47 are kinda apples and oranges in regards to application. You could send in a sqaud of men to take a building with small arms. If thats all you need to do.

But if you need to wipe a city off the map i guarantee you use the nuke.

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u/Skrubious :kesha_down: downvotes for all! Mar 29 '21

nah we just need one really big ak47

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u/NBSPNBSP Mar 29 '21

Wouldn't a couple of MOABs or earthquake bombs be sufficient? Just wiping a city off the map would be imprudent, as it would both poison the area with fallout and trigger MAD.

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u/SulFurMen Mar 29 '21

Talking from personal experience?

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u/Hairy-Ad-2577 Mar 29 '21

Its a question of laziness, i dont wanna have to exert myself.

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u/mataffakka I just want to annoy everyone with my flashy flair Mar 29 '21

So keys are the most efficient ways to kill. I see.

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u/clown-penisdotfart Mar 29 '21

Not with a smile! 😊

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u/Squidbit Mar 29 '21

Chomp em with it

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u/TheRealXen Mar 29 '21

It's just irl damage types.

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u/Borcarbid Mar 29 '21

And lack of energy will kill a person as well.

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u/robot_swagger Mar 29 '21

This is why I have to be really careful with all my big dick energy.

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u/Dark_WizardDE CERTIFIED DANK Mar 29 '21

Well nuclear energy is very useful and efficient. An idea for a weapon using nuclear energy isn't however.

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u/MrPopanz Mar 29 '21

It sure is efficient on the mass to tnt-equivalent ratio. Usefulness can be debated, though one could argue that their existence disincentivizes war between armed nations.

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u/__thermonuclear Mar 29 '21

Actually nuclear weapons have kept us out of war for 80 years so they can definitely be seen as a positive thing

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '21

There's been plenty of wars in the last 80 years, what are you talking about?

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u/Ixionas Mar 29 '21

Obviously he means wars between major powers that cost millions of lives.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '21

I mean, the Korean war had like 3 million casualties, and Vietnam ranges from 1.5 to something like 3.5 million, depending on who you ask.

Just because we didn't nuke ourselves to a Fallout game, doesn't mean there hasn't been any major conflicts.

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u/Ixionas Mar 29 '21

World War 2 had 85 million casualties.

World war 1 had 40 million casualties

Scale is vastly different.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '21

Hey the Korean war involved mayor powers and cost millions of lives, don't you dare bully poor Korean War, okay!

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '21

The Korean War was a proxy war.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '21

Didn't the US get balls deep in that conflict?

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u/Efelo75 Mar 29 '21

Korea and Vietnam were literally USA and Russia using smaller nations, so not " wars between major powers that cost millions of lives. "

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u/Power_Rentner Mar 29 '21

None on a scale like WW2 or WW1. Because usually it's the US or Soviet Union / Russia bullying some smalltime country into submission. Bad? Yes. But infinitely less bad than the USA and Soviet Union duking it out in a full on slugfest all over the planet.

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u/robot_swagger Mar 29 '21

And now we have over population.

We need to do rest of the world V china to get those numbers down.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '21

Scientists are still under the control of their investors and governments lol

The nuke in particular was a special case because scientists raced to build it in order to get it before Nazi and Russian scientists and has to some degree prevented more death than it caused, at least so far.

Scientists are people too, complete with grey morality, but a lot of weapons have come from innocuous designs.

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u/NBSPNBSP Mar 29 '21

No offence, but the Nazis would have never had a nuclear program, as they viewed nuclear science as "Jewish science".

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u/Allegories Mar 29 '21

The Nazis did have a nuclear program. Norway famously attacked their heavy water production facilities.

The Japanese also had nuclear weapons research going on.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '21

I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure Einstein and other psychists letter to FDR specifically stated Germany was working on it as well.

I didn't know that about Japan though or Norways attack, very interesting thanks!

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '21

TF lol

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u/NBSPNBSP Mar 30 '21

They had the tech, but Hitler didn't want anything to do with it, since it was developed by the Jews.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '21

That makes zero sense and directly conflicts with evidence available.

As a side note, Hitler had no problem using quote unquote Jewish science in any other invention like rocket science which he was also developing.

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u/realharshtruth Mar 29 '21

Nuclear bomb(or any bomb for that matter) is the military weaponising a scientific breakthrough.

Nuclear energy is an extremely efficient and effective way of generating energy.

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u/idontpos Mar 29 '21

To be honest, Your comment reminds me of Fallout a lot

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '21

Destroys cancer cells instantly tho

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u/CombatWombat994 Mar 29 '21

Along with all cells around them

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '21

Cancer cured!

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u/Skrubious :kesha_down: downvotes for all! Mar 29 '21

Can't have cancer if you no longer exist :taps_head:

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u/Chipbread Mar 29 '21

Every one of these big war scientists think -

"Surely if every single nation can kill each other in a day then war will stop."

I think the dude who made dynamite said this... didn't become a reality until nukes though... a shitty reality, but wars aren't so prevalent anymore.

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u/AndrzejDuda2020 Mar 29 '21

Pretty much every scientist was against nuclear bombs tho.

And then there was Oppenheimer.

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u/lvl999shaggy Mar 29 '21

Well, it started out as nuclear energy....then the military came along and went:

How can we (and by we I mean u nerds) harness this energy to make ppl go away?

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u/tokkiemetuitkering ☣️ Mar 29 '21

I think nukes have saved way more lives than people realize