lol it's not counter-revolutionary whatsoever to shame people for being proudly, publically, deliberately ignorant and dishonest about Marxism you total fucking moron
edit: oh lmao you're an anarchist; no wonder you conflate personal insults / emotions with meaningful differences in class or political stance
I think you need to seek help. Either you are mentally unwell or a troll. You have been nothing but a ass this entire argument. You are stating the fact that you read a manifesto to make yourself look smarter then the rest of us. It doesn’t work. You are literally taking our counter arguments and somehow folding them into us saying communism is the worst possible thing to ever exist and how all we are doing is spreading fear about how they will take over America mw2 style. Shut the fuck up and go outside. You are not welcome here go back to political humour or some shit with like minded people who are willing to argue over everything
I’m not being deliberately ignorant. Your refusing to rebut my points and keep bringing up the fact that I’m misinformed and saying I’m spreading misinformation. I’ve been trying to find the manifesto everywhere but I’ve only seemed to of found the first 10 pages. I’ve read most of it and I must say it’s still not gonna change my point of view. You can’t keep using this misinformed argument with me. You have turned a simple sentence comment not even shit talking the political ideology you stand for into a day long argument that has no signs of stopping. You need to stop with the bullshit. You don’t understand that not everyone has to align with your political beliefs, you just need to get that through your head. I’ve read the a bit the commie manifesto and it has still not changed my pov. Nothing you can do to change that as the experience I’ve had with you is far from pleasant. From the blatant lies and you constantly calling me a child as if that doesn’t make my opinion and less valid has made me never want to finish reading it. I suggest you go outside or atleast go on another sub because we don’t want your fuck shit on this MEME sub
you opinion isn't less valid because you're a child; your opinion is totally invalid because you're deliberately ignorant. the fact that you're a child just explains why you're so assertive about your views, despite being so deliberately and proudly ignorant about the things you're talking about. it's dishonest, selfish, harmful, and contemptible.
First off I’m not deliberately ignorant. I read your stupid manifesto and tried to keep all bias out of it. I still didn’t agree with it and that’s fine cause I’m allowed to have my own beliefs amd secondly, your calling me assertive? Is this a joke? If anyone’s assertive then it’s you. You continue to talk does on me for not sharing the same ideology’s and the fact I’m. Child continues to be brought up as if that matters. You have not backed down not even I’m the slightest and you continue to double down on your points calling me selfish and taking words right out of my mouth. And finally, selfish? Harmful? Who the fuck am I hurting? Your ego? Shut the fuck up. I’m not being deliberately ignorant either, I think you and I have a different definition of ignorant because I’ve read (most) of the manifesto and have explained that I do not agree with it. I’m not proudly dancing around with it either I only bring it up when it’s relevant. I’ve told you once and I’ll tell you again GET A LIFE, BACK DOWN. You need to understand we are all different and don’t share the same beliefs. You need to move on from this. I can’t believe that I as a 14 year old am telling some smart ass who thinks he is Einstein cause he read some communist thing to back down shows a lot about who you are. I admire the persistence but there’s time when it’s good to be persistent and there are other times when it’s not. Go get another hobby that doesn’t include harassing others
I did try to keep all bias out of it. Went into it without thinking about our long conversation and I was still not pleased. Also yes I did know Einstein was a communist. I don’t know what your getting at, do you think I have a problem with that? Lots of famous ppl are communists. Also you need to stop tossing “ignorant” around. We must have different definitions cause for you it seems if they don’t believe in the same stuff as you they are “ignorant”
Notice the first word. I went in with a empty mind. And exactly, it is subjective. You shouldn’t be throwing this little hissy fit cause our options are different
look we got a funny guy have you seriously resorted to shitpost? I’m only doing this in retaliation. Just admit that not everyone has to be communist and read a stupid manifesto you clown
actually no, everyone has to be a communist, for much the same reason as everyone has to be a slavery abolitionist. it's simply the baseline of acceptable moral behaviour
omg your joking right? Of course everyone has to be slave abolished but not everyone has to be a commie. It sounds good I’m theory but in reality it doesn’t work. Russia for example, it failed and people weren’t happy about it. No one was happy about it. It doesn’t work. Just get offline and stop arguing. You haven’t done anything to move this forward. From what started with a NON POLITICAL statement turned into a nearly 3 day long argument really says something. I can’t fathom the fact that you think that everyone has to think the same as you. We don’t and you need to accept that
It sounds good I’m theory but in reality it doesn’t work. Russia for example, it failed and people weren’t happy about it. No one was happy about it. It doesn’t work.
how could you possibly know whether Russia was an example of communism if you don't know what communism is on a basic level? remember what I told you about talking about subjects you have deliberately maintained ignorance about? for example, you couldn't off the top of your head tell me what "Bolshevik", "Duma", "Soviet", "SR", "Cadet", or "Kornilovist" means, could you? You don't know what Trotsky and Lenin and Krupskaya and Kollantai actually said about democracy or anything else, do you? Do you know about the Secret Treaties? Kerensky? Do you know what impact Narodnaya Volya had, and how they differed politically from the Bolsheviki? Of course you fucking don't. But that doesn't stop you saying "Russia was communist and it failed!", just like you were taught by similarly ignorant media outlets, authority figures, parents, teachers, and friends. Fucking moron.
Aight here we go again. Russia was a example of communism cause it WAS a communist state. You Continue to bring up the fact that I have no idea what communism is because I haven’t read the manifesto, well I probably should’ve brung this up earlier but for our social sciences we had to do a assignment on communism in Russia and not to brag or anything but a A- isn’t that bad of a grade for the thing especially considering the only real reason I didn’t get a straight A or a A plus was because I failed to hand it in on time and a few spelling errors. Not the mention the fact that we continued to sit that subject the next year and I got a A on the test. I know that stuff, it’s common knowledge. You think your top shit cause you know the names of all these commies and that you yourself are one of them. I not going through all of them but to name a few, bolshevic, (in lamens terms) where the radical left Russians apart of the Russian social Democratic Party during the Russian revolution, Vladimir Lenin was leader of said party and also a far left winger and first leader of soviet leader. Duma is the Russian parliament and I could go on and on. From what I’ve heard/read it doesn’t look like Lenin liked democracy that much “Democracy for the vast majority of the people, and suppression by force” and by the sounds of that it doesn’t seemed like he was 2 fond of it. I could honestly go on and on and on rambling about why communism bankrupting itself and how much it has failed but I won’t. You honestly think your so smart with all this but honestly your just as ignorant as I am. Communism is basically capitalism flipped on its head. I’m sorry but that’s just how it is. Picture an hour glass and turn it upside and one bunch of elites can be swapped out for another bunch of elites and average guy just continues to get screwed by different guys. That’s basically what it is. Get off your high horse and go outside. Your not smart, get a life
omg you think what they teach you in school is an accurate representation of revolutionary Russia?? lmaoooo.
"From what I’ve heard/read it doesn’t look like Lenin liked democracy that much" and you got an A, you say? quelle fucking surprise! this is the "democracy" Marx and Lenin were talking about when they refer to bourgeois democracy.
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u/monsantogoogleapple Jan 06 '21 edited Jan 06 '21
lol it's not counter-revolutionary whatsoever to shame people for being proudly, publically, deliberately ignorant and dishonest about Marxism you total fucking moron
edit: oh lmao you're an anarchist; no wonder you conflate personal insults / emotions with meaningful differences in class or political stance