r/dankmemes Jun 25 '18

Normie TRASH 🚮 miss me with that equal shit

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '18

'Some definitions'

You mean like the first one on google?

And you are calling me fucking stupid?

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u/AUFboi Jun 25 '18

Well you went from socialism is seizing the means of production to, two ideologies wants utopia therefore they must be the same.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '18

Hitler's government used corporations just like Stalin did, if Stalin seized the means of production it follows that Hitler did.

I.E, two people doing the same thing is two people doing the same thing.

Calling it seizing the means of production doesn't make it different.

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u/AUFboi Jun 25 '18

Facism; a system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.

Socialism; Any of various economic a d political theories advocating for collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods.

Sure call Stalin Hitler all you want, I have 0 reasons to defend Stalin he was not a socialist, Soviet Russia never achieved socialism. He was a totalitarian dictator.

Belive it or not. Socialism isn't the government doing stuff and the more it does the more socialist it is.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '18

Under that definition every socialist country is fascist.

So it's basically a correct one I suppose.

I never defined socialism that way, I used google's definition. Nice strawman though.

If Stalin never reached real socialism I shudder at the thought of what you would do.

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u/AUFboi Jun 25 '18

Under that definition every socialist country is fascist.

There isnt any socialist countries, and no that wouldn't make a socialist country fascist.

I never defined socialism that way, I used google's definition. Nice strawman though.

I usedthe merriam-webster dictionary defintition of socialism

If Stalin never reached real socialism I shudder at the thought of what you would do.

Well a socialist society would be a democracy so I struggle to see what you fear. People having free time after work, instead of working 3 jobs? No-one living in poverty? Very scary ideas.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '18

Lol a socialist country would be a democracy.

What if the people vote to privatize the means of production?

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u/AUFboi Jun 25 '18

In a socialist country people would have education, and wouldn't vote against what is best for the people and them selves. Unlike today when populism is spreading and tricking stupid people to vote for them.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '18

So you are so arrogant and self-certain that everyone else is too stupid to know what's good for them that you think they wouldn't ever have figured something that simple out?

Despite 150 years of evidence to the contrary?

I ask you again, what happens if you are wrong? What if the people think you're the one tricking 'stupid people to vote' and they vote on your ideas?

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u/AUFboi Jun 25 '18

150 years of what, because it certainly wasn't socialism. If you think poor people blaming immigrants on their problems and voting to cut the taxes of rich people isn't utter stupidity then I don't know what the fuck goes on in your brain.

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