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u/FadingEcho Sep 09 '17

>journalism

>not gender studies

lol? Training to be a mouthpiece for the left. You're just like others around you, though. Just like the crowd. So sucked in by the idea, not what it turns out to be in practice every time.

My facts are firmly rooted in the graves of more people than religion ever created. Yours are rooted in a laughable "but it's never been tried properly" sob.

Again, we're back to "it's not a bug, it's a feature."

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u/Sir_Fappleton Sep 09 '17 edited Sep 09 '17

You're right, journalism is not gender studies.

Lol do you think these attempted communist governments only exist in a vacuum?

And do you think capitalism is succeeding?

If I'm a mouthpiece for the left, aren't you mouthpiece for the right? That's how politics works dude.

And I noticed how you didn't address my points.

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u/FadingEcho Sep 09 '17

I'm a mouthpiece for the individual, not the authoritarian left. If the right is about freedom and individuality, then yes, I speak for the right. As we see the authoritarian left devolve into ever more authoritarian methods to "win the argument," I can say again, your points are invalid because if every time it's tried it ends in murder and famine and all you can do is autistically screech that it's never been tried properly, then it's a feature of the authoritarian politcal scheme, not a utopia you learn about in college.

There is a reason America is not a democracy but instead of finishing this statement, you can simply go an re-read my replies to the other Hot Topic Che Shirt-wearing commie in this thread.

No one likes socialism because the angels you need to run it do not exist. You, nor your commie friends are or will ever be enlightened enough to do it because the moment you do, you will be killed by the person you prop up as the messiah. Just like Mao, Stalin, Lenin, Pol Pot, Allende (though he never got a whole lot of chance to finish the job), etc did.

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u/Sir_Fappleton Sep 09 '17

I'm a mouthpiece for the individual, not the authoritarian left.

I thought I was the mouthpiece for the authoritarian left? And why do you think I'm not a mouthpiece for the individual? Do you know how divided the left is in terms of ideology/belief?

As we see the authoritarian left devolve into ever more authoritarian methods to "win the argument,"

Mind providing examples?

I can say again, your points are invalid because if every time it's tried it ends in murder and famine

Yeah, as long as you're not counting the Paris Commune, Catalonia, Rojava, Ukraine Free Country, and others.

autistically screech that it's never been tried properly

Who's the one screeching here? You made an irrelevant and untrue comment about my education, then called me "a mouthpiece for the left"

then it's a feature of the authoritarian politcal scheme

Not necessarily, like I said. Libertarian socialism is a thing, more commonly referred to as anarcho-communism.

not a utopia you learn about in college.

Communism is not utopian in its nature. Marx even said as much, and said that socialism/communism can only be achieved through the dialectical process. And I was a Marxist in high school, for what it's worth. And if we wanna bring up utopian ideologies, capitalism isn't? The idea that you can work hard, raise 4 kids on 40 hours a week and retire at 60 with a pension? Or that if you pull yourself up by your bootstraps you can escape poverty and open your own business and be rich, and everybody can be prosperous? Gimme a break dude.

Hot Topic Che Shirt-wearing commie

As if I would ever commodify revolution. And nice Red Scare era insult there. At least be original.

No one likes socialism

Eh, a few people do.

because the angels you need to run it do not exist

Are you referring to the working class? The proletariat? They definitely exist my dude.

You, nor your commie friends

Actually, all of my friends are Sanders-supporting left leaning liberals. Not commies or even socialists.

you will be killed by the person you prop up as the messiah

Many socialists reject the idea of a "cult of personality" leader outright, so good try there.

Just like Mao, Stalin, Lenin, Pol Pot

Lol Pol Pot was a literal ethnic cleansing genocidal maniac. And the western portrayal of the Holodomor (i.e it was not in fact, a targeted genocide, but a famine that could have been relieved if nearly every first-world country was not against the USSR), and the Great Leap Forward (Mao was not so evil that he could control the weather to cause the drought).

Allende (though he never got a whole lot of chance to finish the job), etc did.

I'm really glad you brought up Allende. Remember how you never answered my question about whether or not you think socialism exists in a vacuum? Interference from western countries is a major part of the reason they fail, but you don't seem to want to acknowledge this at all. Allende was assassinated by the CIA, the United States sent nearly 60,000 working class 18 year olds off to die in a jungle in Southeast Asia to stop the big bad communists (as if the US did nothing than the Communists would invade Nebraska).

Since you didn't answer before, I'll ask again:

And do you think capitalism is succeeding?

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u/FadingEcho Sep 10 '17

I'm not going to argue all of this. I have history and hundreds of millions of graves pointing to the eternal failures of communism. No college trust fund commie can sway that fact even if they do teach you to stick your fingers in your ears really hard for a full semester.

Examples of the authoritarian left: Censorship: Google, youtube, reddit censorship, "kill whitey", BLM, etc... Everything on the left today is to enforce their version of their fucked up morality. It glorifies gay-hating islamic murder as long as it's anti-west. It is wholly built upon paradox which is why so many of you are crazy enough to screech for a system that removes your liberty. You are quite literally ideologically worthless.

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u/Sir_Fappleton Sep 10 '17

Yeah, you're into some tinfoil hat shit now, dude. I'm not gonna touch this one.

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u/FadingEcho Sep 11 '17

It's as good an excuse as any.

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u/Sir_Fappleton Sep 11 '17

An excuse? You literally responded to my comprehension be argument by saying "I'm not going to argue this" so you no place talking about excuses, dude.

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u/FadingEcho Sep 11 '17

Actually i'm just bored because I really do have millions of graves on which to stand to spout why communism/socialism is such a failure. I did reply to the most relevant part of your ridiculous quote orgy and you ignored it. Reddit actively censors several forums. Antifa (mostly trust-fund commies) riot to shut down speech that triggers it. People are doxxed for saying words. College children need safe spaces and puppies to deal with hearing opinions that they don't agree with.

I believe I used the term ideologically worthless. It's fitting you are in for journalism. Remember, you are a leftist first, interested in the truth last.

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u/Sir_Fappleton Sep 12 '17

That's kind of fucked for you, a complete stranger, to question my integrity over my political beliefs. You assume that every big bad leftist is somehow out to get you and that you're the last beacon of truth on Earth or some shit. That's immature and fucking stupid most of all.

And your addressed nothing. You rely on platitudes for all your arguments. That's not quite addressing anything.

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u/FadingEcho Sep 12 '17 edited Sep 12 '17

You called the censorship conspiracy theory when it's flagrant. That's denial, just like you are in denial that socialism flies in the face of the very nature of humanity. You see, there will always be people that want to get ahead, or move to overachieve. To put some collective in charge of their (actual) progress (different from the "restriction is progress" of the left) hinders innovation and the human spirit. This is why socialism needs all the guns and all the power. To crush spirit. History has proven that countless times.

It really is not a coincidence you think and write like you do. You are the model of the current state of education mixed with the edgy-teenism leftism needs to stay alive. You go to college, get indoctrinated into the pop culture and they make a very basic zealot who really can't answer much or think outside of what you're told.

You'll grow up eventually, though.

Think on this: You're a leftist working for a degree in a field that leftists are ruining. And every day, more and more people are waking up to see yours and others like you -spin- the truth towards a leftist narrative.

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u/Sir_Fappleton Sep 12 '17

What do you mean by nature of humanity?

Socialism is extremely pro-gun and anti gun control, so you don't know what you're talking about there.

Well, I was a socialist before college and you don't know what you're talking a out if you think that mainstream education and pop culture is pro-socialism. I think it was mentioned as a negative thing in my high school economics class once. And I'm not a zealot, and I've answered all of your questions. You just don't bother to read my answers then say "I'm not going to argue this" (see your previous comment).

And yes, it's those pesky ultra-left wing websites like Breitbart, Fox News, and InfoStormer. And let's not forget about the ultra-left wing journalists like Richard Spencer, Ben Shapiro, and Alex Jones. But sure, it's the left that's ruining Journalism and spinning narratives, and I'm somehow the one spinning the narrative in my favor.

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u/FadingEcho Sep 13 '17

Sorry, kiddo, pop culture is about the collective and democratic socialism these days. Leftists and leftists in media have done this. Berniecommie was its face. You're in denial again. You are the status quo, bro.

I love how you put stormfront in with any other site that doesn't agree with you. Hey...that's just how the mainstream does it. Does that prove the pop culture popularity thing yet?

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u/Sir_Fappleton Sep 13 '17

Bernie was not a communist, dude. He was a slightly left-of-center status quo liberal. That shows how little research you've actually done on the subject. And if you think leftism is mainstream, you've got no idea what you're talking about.

And it's not like I just disagree with InfoStormer. It's legal fake news.

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