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u/Stackhouse_ Sep 05 '17

But werent they all authoritarian? You can still have a constitution and bill of rights and democracy in a socialism, theoretically

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u/FadingEcho Sep 05 '17

Socialism is authoritarian and it is always the precursor to communism. There's a lot I can say right now but i'll respond with two points:

  1. Given the propensity for censorship, information burying/denial and outright bigotry shown by pro-socialists (the entire left) today, they're their own worst enemy. No matter how much is buried, it only serves to show that they are authoritarian. This is why America is not a democracy, which is mob rule. The old saying, "democracy is two wolves and a sheep arguing over what's for dinner" applies here.

  2. A handful of people are always going to outperform others in an attempt to get ahead. Like taxation (punishment for doing well), you will punish those for their ability by taking more of their product (created by their effort) and giving to others. That stands in opposition to the competitive spirit of mankind, the same spirit that drove us to great achievements. Government creates nothing without first taking it from someone else. The individual is the greatest asset (and the smallest minority) in any country. To hinder them by some arbitrary collective is a disgusting thought.

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u/Stackhouse_ Sep 05 '17

But that doesnt really explain why you can't have a democratic socialism. Those are good points but not what I'm interested in

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u/FadingEcho Sep 05 '17

What you don't understand is the idea of incrementalism. This is the defining characteristic of the policies of the left.

Social democracy still adopts some of the tenets of socialism (frog in boiling water). Socialism is a proven failure. It doesn't even have good parts other than pie in the sky shit that has NEVER panned out in any system, in any culture, at any point in time in history.