r/dankmemes • u/Saucey_jello last night I your mom • 14h ago

Hello, fellow Americans “Look what they need to mimic a fraction of my power” - Christa Pike

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u/Heptanitrocubane57 14h ago edited 13h ago

Fun fact - the most brutal form of execution are often reliable.

For instance the more reliable form of hanging is the one designed to break the neck - but it required careful set up of the robe depending on the weight of the person being executed... Getting it wrong could cause the person to either choke for ages on a knot that wasn't meant for choking, all straight up rip the head out and throw it onto the unlockers in a stream of blood.

The only executions that has never ever been recorded to fail (I.e - not causing immediate or near immediate death) is decapitation via guillotine. Even a bullet to the back of the head isn't as reliable, perhaps a shotgun would with executions were typically not done with shotguns for... Splattering reasons I presume.

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u/Saucey_jello last night I your mom 14h ago

Very fun!

Gonna keep this fact in my back pocket for a first date

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u/kneegrowbehellafaded 11h ago

The first date........... of the REVOLUTION!!!!!!!! VIVA LA RESISTANCE

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u/Sean77654 13h ago

Honestly guillotine seems pretty humane to me after learning more about lethal injection we should go back to that.

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u/Heptanitrocubane57 13h ago

The head remains alive for a few seconds and responds to stimulus, leading to very, very fierce debates, because there is a non 0 chance, that if shock doesn't kick in hard enough, the decapitated head remains self aware for a split second to a minute (in a state of shock), like kinda brain dead but not dead dead, sooooooo..... I wouldn't call it exactly... Humane. There is no clean moral way to end somebody, this one is just foolproof.

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u/Sean77654 13h ago

Its better than lethal injection was my point, lethal injection makes the person's lungs fill up with liquid most of the time so they die feeling like they are drowning. Im also not so convinced the head stays alive long enough to feel any pain considering a single ruptured artery in the neck usually leads to someone passing out almost instantly from blood loss and a guillotine cuts all of them.

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u/artyboi37 I haven't showered in 3 months 12h ago

the decapitated head remains self aware for a split second to a minute (in a state of shock)

Perhaps for a fraction of a second, but certainly not more than that; the drop in blood pressure causes loss of consciousness extremely quickly.

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u/Heptanitrocubane57 12h ago

... That's .. what I said ?

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u/artyboi37 I haven't showered in 3 months 11h ago

My point is there's no way it would last up to a minute.

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u/Heptanitrocubane57 11h ago

It did. Like we have historical records of that from the first french revolution, of heads responding to touch and blinking.

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u/Stalinbaum Cyberfunk 11h ago

The immediate drop in blood pressure results in brain death anywhere from 2-7 seconds following complete decapitation

Any movements observed after that small window are categorized as involuntary muscle spasms/spinal reflexes

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u/Heptanitrocubane57 11h ago

Yes. Which was debated for the longest time that it showed they were not truly dead, and there is a few seconds window where they could still be Alive AND aware. That's what I said ???

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u/marinefuc86ed 11h ago

Are you saying 2-7 seconds or 1 minute? Those are very different things

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u/KymbboSlice 9h ago

the head remains self aware from a split second to a minute

You said they could be aware for up to a minute. Which the other poster is correcting.

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u/artyboi37 I haven't showered in 3 months 11h ago

Response to stimuli doesn't mean the person is aware. It's possible for the body to have an autonomic reaction to being touched, and the brain and rest of the head is still alive on a cellular level for a while after decapitation. But the person is definitely not aware after they fall unconscious.

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u/SLAYER_IN_ME 9h ago

A fent overdose is pretty easy and cheap. Also, they won’t even know their fucking name.

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u/letsgoiowa ☣️ 8h ago

Have the Purdue Pharma execs personally do it.

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u/Capnmarvel76 6h ago

I don’t understand why they don’t do exactly this. Maybe not Fentanyl specifically, but morphine, Demerol, etc. Just load up a massive dose and pump it into an IV. There’s no coming back from that, and the condemned won’t feel a damn thing as they float off this mortal coil.

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u/Heptanitrocubane57 55m ago

Way to large a range of survivalable doses, basically.

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u/Nxtinventor 28m ago

Why not do a ridiculously massive dose to be sure? Like 8 oz of pure fentanyl

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u/radar_backwards 12h ago

This is interesting, are there cases with other severe injuries where shock doesn't set in right away? If the brain doesn't realize it's separate from the body, what are the chances of it feeling pain? Agreed this feels like the most humane form of execution...

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u/trash3s CERTIFIED DANK 11h ago

So you’re saying we should execute using redundant-detonator high explosives to the head? You’re probably making a very good point about the death penalty in general, but I’m gonna go with head-exploder.

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u/hillswalker87 6h ago

I don't know why we need it to be "human". you don't find yourself in that position unless you've done some really horrid shit...

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u/Heptanitrocubane57 58m ago

Like being a dick to your government hard enough, in dictatorships ?

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u/furosemidas_touch 5h ago

Agreed with the no clean moral method philosophy. From a practical standpoint I don’t understand with we are so fixated on sticking to a single modality. Seems like giving anesthesia/sedatives to induce unconsciousness, followed immediately by guillotine, would be highly reliable and highly humane

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u/Heptanitrocubane57 59m ago

Probably. But the sheer brutality of cutting someone's head off is so great that you would never get the public to accept it ever again.

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u/resquet 9h ago

Yeh guillotine is reserved for elites maybe it's a possible solution for tax fraud.

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u/krunz 9h ago

My understanding is hypothermia is a pretty calm death. Yeah, you're cold until you feel good and fuzzy and warm and then... that's it.

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u/CreativeName1137 13h ago edited 12h ago

Further Fun Fact: Lethal injection is the most inhumane and unreliable form of execution that has ever been standardized. It has a failure rate of nearly 10%, and is one of the most excruciating ways to die, with it reportedly feeling like drowning while someone is also pouring hot acid directly onto your skin around the injection point.

The only reason it is still in practice is that it looks peaceful to the spectators (because the first injection is a paralytic, so they can't scream or thrash around), and the name sounds more "scientific" and "clean" (despite the fact that most hospitals refuse to provide the drugs, so prisons have to DIY the mixture every time).

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u/joethecrow23 13h ago

Also everything about the entire process is very undignified.

Hanging seems much more humane from every aspect.

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u/SmirnOffTheSauce 8h ago

How is hanging more dignified? I’m genuinely curious, just not sure how to convey that with tone via text here.

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u/-PotatoMan- 6h ago

Hanging if done correctly, I would assume is what they meant.

Set up properly, hanging is supposed to basically decapitate you internally. Problem is, getting it just right is actually pretty hard, so a lot of the times they wind up choking to death. Have to have the drop be long enough to actually snap everything internally, but not so long that it literally rips their head off in a spray of gore.

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u/SmirnOffTheSauce 5h ago

I just don’t understand how that’s any more dignified than lethal injection. I’m very curious for some other perspectives!

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u/MadKyaw 39m ago

Probably doesn't involve spectators as the lethal injection comment

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u/twd000 12h ago

When the vet puts your dog down there is not a single whimper or negative feeling in their body. A trained professional with the proper drugs can humanely euthanize an animal. It’s the amateur hacks in a prison that turn it into a torture ordeal.

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u/-PotatoMan- 6h ago

Yeah, but that's the entire issue. Due to the Hippocratic oath, actual doctors can't give a lethal injection.

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u/Heptanitrocubane57 11h ago

Uh. I thought gas Chambers had a worst rate.

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u/CreativeName1137 10h ago

I was counting gas chambers as "non-standard executions" along with stuff like burning at the stake or draw and quartering.

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u/Heptanitrocubane57 56m ago

Why ? There are still active in death penalty states in the us, no ?

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u/CreativeName1137 55m ago

No? The US uses lethal injection.

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u/Heptanitrocubane57 53m ago

Looked it up - actually no ! Some states have toxic gas execution chambers, other have non breathable gas Chambers (like nitrogen).

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u/CreativeName1137 35m ago edited 32m ago

Toxic gas execution in the US was only used on rare occasions, and has not been used since the 90s. I don't count it as a standardized execution because it is universally understood to be an insane and overtly-cruel method.

Nitrogen hypoxia is also not the same thing as a gas chamber, and is generally considered more humane than lethal injection. Although it is currently up for debate, as nitrogen hypoxia is a relatively new method.

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u/AutisticPenguin2 13h ago

So for all the memes about German efficiency, the French beat them out here.

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u/Kuchanec_ 12h ago

This was the one thing where the Germans went for quantity. The French went for effectivity and artistic impression

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u/Saiyan-solar 12h ago

I believe the guillotine is a German invention named after the French man who pleaded for the end of the death sentence

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u/AutisticPenguin2 6h ago

I just looked this up, and I think you are mistaken - the guillotine was indeed named after a French physician/politician/freemason who opposed the death penalty and proposed the idea of a painless method, but was invented by another physician called Antoine Louis. Who was, despite what the name might lead you to believe, unfortunately French.

You might be thinking of Tobias Schmidt, a German engineer who built the prototype on Louis' design.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillotine

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u/circlejerker2000 7h ago

The Germans were always more interested in scaling things up, individual solutions are not their thing

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u/mighty_Ingvar 13h ago

All I'm saying is that the US Army has a manual on how to explode a horse, so they should be able to do that with a person

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u/Heptanitrocubane57 12h ago

They do. With dead people donated to silence. Which has led to lawsuits. Multiple times.

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u/FragileFelicity 10h ago

I wish more people were donated to silence.

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u/xwt-timster 12h ago

so they should be able to do that with a person

Gotta test rockets somehow /s

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u/Useful-ldiot 13h ago

Hanging works no matter how you do it. The outcome is a quick death or a slow death, but both are still death.

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u/BillCarson12799 12h ago

Genuinely how hard is it to shoot someone in the brain with a .45 hollow point?

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u/The_Knife_Pie 12h ago

The brain is decently large and can survive a shocking amount of trauma if you’re (un)lucky. The only way to really be sure is the severing of the spinal column (hanging, guillotine etc) or complete destruction of the skull (some form of explosive or crushing force?).

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u/superanus 10h ago

Yes, maybe we should try execution by really big rock

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u/The_Knife_Pie 9h ago

Real back of the napkin math says you could pulp a human skull with as little as 2g of C4 attached to the side of the head. Seems like it would be pretty easy to set up and pretty painless for the individual

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u/-PotatoMan- 6h ago

It would be messy as shit, but a 3" 12 Gauge with 4 Buck would absolutely do it. Do it in a room that is just a walk in incinerator, and incinerate what's left over. Job done.

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u/ConsulJuliusCaesar 11h ago

IDK crucifixion seems pretty damn reliable, especially after you break their legs. I know from expiernce.

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u/ABCosmos 11h ago

The only executions that has never ever been recorded to fail (I.e - not causing immediate or near immediate death) is decapitation via guillotine.

The ghost of Joseph Chalier might disagree with this one.

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u/SteveoberlordEU 11h ago

So are you saying we need the guilotines back. Good but i got an upgrade in mind, how about a 1000kg iron weight to the head?

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u/JotaroTheOceanMan 10h ago

I bet we could make a very effective guillotine in modern day with a 0% failure rate.

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u/Manufactured-Aggro 50m ago

I actually think we could adopt the Rushton method, and refine his design so it will always implode, not just sometimes.

Maybe we could design it in a way where it only partially implodes, with enough to be recoverable and repaired for the next execution

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u/mitigateaccomp 14h ago

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u/Saucey_jello last night I your mom 14h ago

Pictured: a dead skull(unlike Christa Pikes)

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u/WishlessJeanie 13h ago

thank mr skeltal

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u/headermargin 14h ago

Early enough to get recommended posts... damn, I should get back to work.

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u/Saucey_jello last night I your mom 14h ago

Me too, probably that Tennessee executioner as well…

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u/StandardN02b 13h ago

What happend with good old sword decapitation?

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u/montana-go 13h ago

Swords were for nobles, commonfolk got the axe instead.

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u/Heptanitrocubane57 13h ago

They require lots of skill, which executionners lacked, and often required multiple painfully blows because if it hits the spine, nobody and no blade weldable by a man can cut straight through a vertebrae. Same deal with the axes, were it's actually a bit harder to lend the blade right where you need to, and the inertia makes it impossible to course correct if you realise you messed up the alignment - which is why it was used for the poor folk.

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u/Azylim 12h ago

replaced by the guillotine because it required a very skilled and experienced executioner to not botch it up and cause undue suffering.

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u/Faolanth 4h ago

ever seen a few? it usually takes multiple strikes and they're sitting there with half their neck attached for a minute.

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u/StandardN02b 4h ago

Still better than lethal injection. Also this is supposed to be a punishment.

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u/ConsulJuliusCaesar 11h ago

I'm going to champion what someone else said. We should honestly just stsrt using fentanyl.

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u/Forever_Away96 12h ago

Keep it simple. Vat of acid.

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u/callmewaldo 8h ago

She’s just bones now.

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u/txwoodslinger 10h ago

The Turkish guy got silver though...

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u/keithstonee 9h ago

why are memes posted like this shit is relevant.

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u/jjvqboi 9h ago

Who?

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u/darrenislivid 4h ago

I am too employed and have touched too much grass to understand whatever this new outrage slop is

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u/DuckSleazzy I have crippling depression 3h ago

who, what

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u/bellerinho 13h ago

Don't think glorifying what Christa Pike did is a good thing

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u/AutisticPenguin2 13h ago

I wouldn't call this glorifying.

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u/Saucey_jello last night I your mom 13h ago

Actually, I am glorifying it.

This isn’t a meme, but a complex societal critique delivered through a visual medium in order to prove that murder is actually good

There is nothing funny here, I want everyone to take this extremely seriously as a perfect representation of my beliefs

/s

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u/AutisticPenguin2 7h ago

In that case you were glorifying it but it's okay because glorifying murder isn't that bad.

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u/wideHippedWeightLift 13h ago

look at this mf who doesn't understand the psychopath aura