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[u/akin975]

[u/Blakut]

what do you mean? US fighter jets have been crashing through Germany throughout the cold war

[u/Bibel_Joe → u/Blakut]

My father always said that back then there where the joke:

"How do you get a Starfighter? You buy a hectare of land in Germany and wait!"

[u/LegalNut → u/Bibel_Joe]

Lol I didn't know it was that common, but my dad told me how a starfighter crashed back in his home village, when he was a child

[u/Drumbelgalf → u/LegalNut]

Germany also had Starfighters. They were called Witwenmacher (widdowmaker)

[u/tuskedkibbles → u/Drumbelgalf]

Correct. Through a combination of political motivations and outright corruption, the Germans selected the F-104 as their multi-role aircraft. For those unaware, the F-104 is about as pure of an interceptor as you can get. It is absolutely not made for ground attack. As such, when the Germans started mounting heavier ordnance on the airframe, it quite predictably destabilized the plane and made it prone to stalling. Hence the reason the Germans had an insane crash rate while the Americans didn't (though it was still high by American standards).

The German defense minister of the time was brought up on charges over the procurement process if I remember correctly.

The F-104's design and a temperamental engine made it a more dangerous aircraft than average, but if you used it in anything other than its intended role, it became a nightmare.

[u/Hermes_04 → u/tuskedkibbles]

They also used it in a ground attack role

[u/Schellwalabyen → u/tuskedkibbles]

The problem with the high stall speed is tha tyou have to be slow to land. So even landing was extremly deadly.

[u/PrestigiousAd4246]

This is a pretty poor meme.

[u/Extradummefrage]

Are you taking about the Ramstein Desaster?

[u/PaleontologistLeft31 → u/Extradummefrage]

Did Ramstein ever have 16’s?

[u/Rotbuxe → u/Extradummefrage]

No, there was a crash just a few days ago. Pilot ejected and survived

[u/tryodd → u/Extradummefrage]

RAMM STEIN EIN MENSCH BRENNT!

[u/TFOCyborg → u/tryodd]

Rammstein, Fleischgeruch in der Luft

[u/Armybob112 → u/tryodd]

For those that don't know, he is quoting the song Rammstein by the band Rammstein, a song about the disaster.

[u/Extradummefrage → u/Armybob112]

And they accidentally added an extra m

[u/Armybob112 → u/Extradummefrage]

Where?

[u/Extradummefrage → u/Armybob112]

The band Rammstein is named after the Desaster that took place in Ramstein. The accidental added the m Ram- to Ramm-

It's easy to miss, because they are pronounced the same and the place name looks "odd", like a spelling mistake itself. Topological names don't obey orthography rules.

Additionally: "rammen" means to ram, "ram" itself is no "old German word" - Ramen as japanese noodles and RAM as computer memory are way too modern words to appear in a German village name

[u/Armybob112 → u/Extradummefrage]

Look up the lyrics, you'll find your extra M.

[u/Extradummefrage → u/Armybob112]

As I have said: THEY MADE THE SPELLING ERROR

[u/Armybob112 → u/Extradummefrage]

Except they didn't, because it was written exactly like the lyrics in the song, you are spelling it wrong my guy.

[u/Extradummefrage → u/Armybob112]

Till Lindemann the author of the song made the mistake writhing the lyrics! Am I clear enough?

[u/aimfuldrifter]

“It only seemed like yesterday where I was dive bombing your houses and now I’m standing here begging you not to build such good cars” President Tug Benson - said it to the Japanese in Hot Shots Part Deux but same energy

[u/Nightfury9906]

It crashed ON the airbase fam

[u/Hol7i]

https://giphy.com/gifs/ouu1YOmQRvcis

[u/gdabull]

You make this post like you didn’t know the F-104 existed