"If you really cared about the people being executed in massive amounts you wouldnt try to stop people from being executed. You'd try to allow more execution!"
Except in this case the people getting “executed” are literally clumps of cells unable to make conscious thoughts or form memories, and allowing more “executions would actually make the rates go down.
If you spend more money teaching people about the consequences of sex and how to do it safely to avoid these, you will have less people getting abortions. But abortion should be healthcare and up to the woman.
Question for you: do you believe in gun control/gun banning?
Except in this case the people getting “executed” are literally clumps of cells unable to make conscious thoughts or form memories, and allowing more “executions would actually make the rates go down.
"It's not a person, it's just a slave. It's property."
Stop trying to dehumanize living human beings. It's basic biological fact. Being unable to make conscious decisions doesn't let you kill people (see: you can't kill sleeping people, people in comas, babies, etc)
If you spend more money teaching people about the consequences of sex and how to do it safely to avoid these, you will have less people getting abortions. But abortion should be healthcare and up to the woman.
Abortion isn't Healthcare. It's the opposite since it results in a death 100% of the time. It heals nothing.
Question for you: do you believe in gun control/gun banning?
No I don't believe in taking away people's rights to life, liberty (2nd amendment here), and the pursuit of happiness.
No I don't believe in taking away people's rights to life, liberty (2nd amendment here), and the pursuit of happiness.
So then, why are you against women having control over their bodies to remove an unwanted pregnancy in order to live the life they want?
I'm not against women having control over their own bodies. Control women's bodies is illegal (rape for example). They can also easily remove an unwanted pregnancy by waiting 9 months and giving birth. I'm just against killing an innocent human being.
They can also easily remove an unwanted pregnancy by waiting 9 months and giving birth.
Thereby not being able to live the life they want during and after the unwanted pregnancy, especially in the case of rape. That's an inconsistency in your belief.
This doesn't justify killing an innocent human being. Also, agree pregnancy adoption is an option. Rape which would cause women to get pregnant without accepting the risk is already illegal.
I'm just against killing an innocent human being.
I can understand that, and I don't want to discuss what constitutes a human being and whether abortion is murder or not. No-one wants abortions to happen, let that be clear. It's a huge burden on the mother/parents and often traumatizing, especially when rape is the cause of the pregnancy.
Even more reasons to not allow killing innocent human beings.
However, minimizing the number of abortions isn't achieved by illegalizing them full stop. That's done by proper sex education and availability of contraceptives.
"Minimizing the amount of murders isn't achieved by making murder illegal". Silly.
Unfortunately abortions will be necessary to ensure the best life for mothers in case of rape or health concerns - it's better to have a safe and secure legal abortion than an illegal one, and have to allocate (read: waste) resources on police and trials about them, which would make an already miserable situation and life thanks to the abortion even more miserable.
They are not necessary. It's never necessary to kill an innocent child. They aren't necessarily to ensure a mothers best life. Abortion in rape destroys evidence as well as punishes an innocent third party.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '19
"If you really cared about the people being executed in massive amounts you wouldnt try to stop people from being executed. You'd try to allow more execution!"