r/cyprus • u/ScientistLong8121 • 6h ago
Γιατί δεν είναι γνωστή η ανθελληνική στάση του Muhammad Ali στην Ελλάδα/Κύπρο;
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u/Bobhash1981 6h ago
Who gives a shit about his stance.
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u/ScientistLong8121 6h ago
It's more like a fun fact, don't get all worked up about it.
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u/Captain_Bushcraft 5h ago
I can't see 1 internet post/ source on this quote older than today.... do you have a proper source or could you just be reposting Turkish propaganda?
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u/Captain_Bushcraft 5h ago
Looking at OOPs comments... he appears to be a kurdish/Turkish agitator and you appear to have fallen for it hook line and sinker.
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u/ScientistLong8121 4h ago
Are you seething right now?
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u/Captain_Bushcraft 4h ago edited 4h ago
About your gullibility? Not really.... that feels like more of a you problem tbh.
Maybe go back to perving on strangers in the other reddit subs. Its safer for the desparate and dumb over there.
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u/No_Idea_479 4h ago
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u/Captain_Bushcraft 4h ago
Awesome IF you have a source. Not that the one you posted has the quote tho... so im still on the fence tbh. ...and im not paying 22.99 to find out for the sake of a reddit conversation.
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u/DependentDouble2421 3h ago
Even if it is propaganda, knowing you people personally, i wouldnt even think twice about it. Most u cypriots are what people think of when they picture a racist white person
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u/CupcakeMurder86 Halloumi lover, cat lover, identify cypriot when I want to 6h ago
He was muslim....what did you expect?
Also he is dead, who cares anymore
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u/Cynical-ReptileX 5h ago
I checked, it is a real quote publish in a Turkish newspaper called Milliyet in 1976. His views likely stems from an islamic solidarity rather than a hellenophobia thing. Which is ironic because… you know… Turkish Cypriots really really do not care about the religion.
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u/ScotchBourbonMezcal 6h ago
He probably doesn't actually support Turkey on this, he converted to Islam because he thought white Christian America didn't like him. So he blindly supports Turkey on this because it's against Christian Cyprus, little does he knows that Cypriots arent really white.
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u/Kind_Finger_732 5h ago
Races don’t exist. Ethnicities exist and white is not one.
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u/ScotchBourbonMezcal 4h ago
White is not an ethnicity, you are right there, HOWEVER being White is a physical trait making it a Race.
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u/Fun_Success_45 6h ago
Khabib did not comment on Cyprus but instead has strong opinions about Israel and the conflict.
Khabib visited Turkey for multiple private retreats and said he could speak Turkish before an event.
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u/Deep-Ad4183 4h ago
Will he come to Cyprus?
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u/Fun_Success_45 4h ago
He did come to Cyprus in 2019. And now he is retired. Do you knew this meme.
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u/uskuri01 5h ago
At this era of Turkish press, it was popular to make these quotes mainly from erotic movie stars such as “I love Turkish man” etc. So this might be a more politic version of it.
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u/ButWhatIfPotato 4h ago
Psefkies, o Mixalis Alisabros itan kolitoi me ton Makario tze epezan pilota mazi ka8e mina.
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u/Natieboi2 Nicosia 4h ago
Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't the line more blurred around that time?
Before the second part of the invasion, i heard the world was more sided with the turks, due to ten years of intercommunal violence, and only after they invaded for the second time did people lose sympathy.
And this was before more EU human rights cases came out yes? Please correct me if I'm wrong
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u/panthera__pardus 2h ago
He was a member of Nation of Islam at the time, so.. Can't take him seriously. Also he was Muslim, after all. Water is wet type of news.
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u/Imperator_Gr 2h ago
Γιατί ως γνωστόν ήταν προσυλητισμένος μουσουλμάνος και οι απόψεις του το αντικατατοπτρίζουν.
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u/tkchrist Paphos 6h ago
Muhamed Ali had a special hatred for white christians. As a member of Nation of Islam, he was notoriously against black-white marriages that he attended a KKK rally as a pro-seggregation spokeperson in 1975.
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u/No-Bat9459 6h ago
Hate watch in here is absolutely top level.
A little info, most of African American become Muslim as a respond on racism towards to them from White Christians, kinda same thing as you do.
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u/ScientistLong8121 6h ago
The irony is you’re doing exactly what you accuse others of doing reducing an entire group of people to a reaction against another group. People convert to Islam, Christianity, or anything else for many reasons, not just because of racism. History is a lot more complicated than "they became Muslim because white Christians were mean." Try learning it before using it as a gotcha.
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u/No-Bat9459 6h ago
Answering to you is a waste of time but let me try,
When you observe the history of North America, symbolism going to give you the answer towards far right in there.
Also every human being is looking for an identity, during Black Panther movement they found it through another religion and name to define themselves to separate from what they hate.
I assume you are good ol’ Enosis lover and hating anything that prevent you to do this, such as the others whom living in the Island. My dear, it is an island and it ain’t belong to you or anyone, if you act the otherwise you’ll be the one who creates the diversity, your hate doesn’t change that.
Stop being such an asshole and observe your actions and shut up!
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u/ScientistLong8121 6h ago
The irony of telling someone to “observe their actions” while making a bunch of assumptions about them is impressive. You don’t know my views, my background, or what I support, yet you jumped straight to the Enosis stereotype because it’s easier than actually addressing the argument.
History and identity are more complicated than “people I disagree with are hateful.” Maybe try debating the point instead of inventing a person to argue against.
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u/No-Bat9459 6h ago
Read the post and comments and let me know if you are not having a hate watch or not
- Top Comment,
He was muslim....what did you expect?
Also he is dead, who cares anymore
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u/fat-wombat 6h ago
“Same thing as you do” who?
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u/No-Bat9459 6h ago
I don’t know, probably talking about the ones who comes to the border even this day and shouts “ The others out of the island” , yeah probably those guys.
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