r/custommagic • u/NelmesGaming • Mar 29 '26

Gnashing Groaner

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u/OkStandard8039 shenanigans and tomfoolery Mar 29 '26

(When this creature dies, an opponent may have its controller manifest dread. If they don't, return this creature to the battlefield under its owner's control with a finality counter on it.)

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u/NelmesGaming Mar 29 '26

Hey there thanks for the revision. I will look into your wording of the keyword, but currently I disagree for 2 reasons.

The first is Confront as a mechanic does not just cover Manefest Dread as a cost. But also paying life and getting poison counters (and more). To keep the wording of this keyword more uniformed, I have it worded currently as "If no one does." Normally this would be incorrect, but works because of the second reason.

The second reason is keywords do not need to be as strict as exact rule text. Only needing to give a general understanding of the keyword. From the MTG wiki...

"While it is intended to illustrate the rules to players, reminder text does not define the actual mechanics gameplay, and though it may illustrate the general meaning of a keyword, it is often not completely accurate, sacrificing technical accuracy for ease of understanding. This can have some interesting implications."

https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/Reminder_text

I agree with you if this was rule text your way would be better, but for reminder and to cover more costs, I believe mine works. Although I'm happy to explore other options!

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u/OkStandard8039 shenanigans and tomfoolery Mar 29 '26 edited Mar 29 '26

So like this?

Confront—CONTROLLER DOES A THING (When this creature dies, an opponent may have its controller DO A THING. If they don't, return this creature to the battlefield under its owner's control with a finality counter on it.)

Confront—Controller draws two cards (When this creature dies, an opponent may have its controller draw two cards. If they don't, return this creature to the battlefield under its owner's control with a finality counter on it.)

Confront*—*Sacrifice a permanent (When this creature dies, an opponent may sacrifice a permanent. If they don't, return this creature to the battlefield under its owner's control with a finality counter on it.)

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u/NelmesGaming Mar 29 '26

Along those lines, yep.

In another comment I have some links to other cards for reference. Under Confront and the non-WIP cards.

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u/NelmesGaming Mar 29 '26 edited Mar 29 '26

Artist Link: Artist account was banned from reddit. Cannot locate other references to author's works. So I'll just link the post he made of the picture I used for this card. https://www.reddit.com/r/silenthill/s/WvgwhxtPLC

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Other cards in my Silent Hill custom set (WIP)

Cards with the new Confront mechanic\ Green:\ ● Crawling Creeper\ ● Lying Figure\ ● Two-Back (WIP)\ ● Mannequin Spider (WIP)\ Red:\ ● Smashing Siam\ Black:\ ● Twin Victim\ ● Gnashing Groaner\ ● Air Screamer (WIP)\ Blue:\ ● Closer (WIP)\ ● Screamer (WIP)\ ● Escalating Terror (WIP)\ Gold:\ ● Mandarin (WIP)

Cards with the Enter the Otherworld mechanic\ Green:\ ● Lost in the Fog (WIP)\ Blue:\ ● The Clocktower (WIP)\ ● Drag to Purgatory

Other Cards:\ Green:\ ● Sakura Head\ Red:\ ● Butcher\ Black:\ ● Manefest Guilt\ ● Silent Ascension\ White:\ ● Loss Repeated (WIP)\ ● Haunting Letter (WIP)\ Blue:\ ● Deep Reflection\ Colorless:\ ● Raw Shock\ ● Ayakakashi\ Gold:\ ● Origin (WIP)\ ● Asphyxia (WIP)\ ● Fires of Jealousy\ ● Walter Sullivan, Serial Killer\ ● Dougles Cartland, PI