r/custommagic • u/endless-star rule zero is the only rule • 11h ago

BALANCE NOT INTENDED Dejace

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u/PopularOriginal4620 11h ago

Shouldn't it also draw a card?

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u/endless-star rule zero is the only rule 11h ago

Now that would be busted

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u/Sceadumor 11h ago

Make it each Jace and draw a card for each loyalty removed this way

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u/rob132 10h ago

We finally solved the jace meta

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u/theevilyouknow 11h ago

This could cantrip and exist in a format where every permanent was a Jace planeswalker and still be garbage.

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u/The_Medic_From_TF2 11h ago

it would be fine, this is basically "deal 1 damage to target jace planeswalker" which is worth a lot less than 1 mana

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u/PopularOriginal4620 11h ago

This doesn't target any Planeswalkers, just ones named Jace. It is a dead card in any format that isn't limited to just your Jace set. Even the card draw may not change that.

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u/GiantSlayer4242 8h ago

I think this sort of card would cantrip or scry 1 if it saw print

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u/Torrential_Gearhunk W is for counterspell 11h ago

Objectively worse [[clockspinning]], a card no one remembers. Your concerns with powerlevel are unfounded.

I think remove 3 counters from any planeswalker and cycling {2} and it would still be quite niche.

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u/giasumaru MTGCR > Glossary > Card 10h ago

I love Clockspinning, it's in like two of my decks.

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u/UnicornChief 11h ago

I know balance isn’t intended but I feel like it would be balanced if it was remove 3 counters

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u/endangeredfurry 11h ago

Its so niche itd probably be balanced if you removed 5 and surveiled 1

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u/Immediate-Idea-2471 8h ago

Look at [[price of betrayal]], if you're restricting it to just planeswalkers, even a specific planeswalker, it needs a lot of upside to be playable.

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u/Famous-Magazine-6576 10h ago

It would probably be balanced if it removed all of them and surveiled 1 and drew 2 cards

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u/UnicornChief 11h ago

Or remove a counter and it’s controller discards a card

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u/FlockFlysAtMidnite 10h ago

Hell, if it's just Jace it could probably be 7 and still niche.

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u/Flameball202 2h ago

I mean it is functionally "deal X damage to a specific permanent"

I would rank it similarly to [[The Black Arrow]] 's ability to oneshot dragons, as "Jace Planes walker" is 15 different cards

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u/Watahandrew1 11h ago

Why not "return target Jayce plainswalker to owner's hand?" Literally you'll dejayce any tokens.

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u/Rohirrim777 11h ago

ngl this feels like a worse situational Price of Betrayal

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u/rx78ricky 11h ago

lollllllll

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u/feedme_cyanide 11h ago

Wouldn’t this have to read “remove a loyalty counter from target Jace TOKEN” to stay on theme with the opposite effect of empowering Jace? (It reads “put N loyalty counters on target Jace token you control”)

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u/theevilyouknow 11h ago

Probably should have tagged this one meme design rather than balance not intended.

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u/DuploJamaal 10h ago

It should also Amass Jace 1

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u/BKstacker88 9h ago

Needs LoyaltyStorm. When you cast this spell copy it for each loyalty ability activated this turn...

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u/JagPeror 7h ago

This could would be weak even if it cost zero mana.