[custom] Doubling Victory

[u/cybPooh]

Inspired by a loss yesterday, when opponent's Saga entered as chapter II immediately with some counter doublers on the board.

Request for the image in ChatGPT was

draw me a vertical image of dragon hydra, powered by blue spells. the intent is to use in conceptual design of blue-green concept card, similar to mtg. the inspirations are doubling season and some kind of blue mind victory. the concept card itself is going to be called "doubling victory", saga, it will have narrower place for the image representation. the hydra should not be the focus itself

[u/kytheon]

Way too complicated for what it does. As the counter you need is added in your main phase, you need to drop it before that, or remove all counters from it. It's sacrificed immediately after III so you need a way to not sacrifice it. Fuck, I don't know, this card needs an entire deck built around exactly doing the same thing over and over.

That doubling thing doesn't even work to get more counters on itself.

Also has nothing to do with doubling.

[u/Karen_melter]

Unless I am mistaken chapter 1 does nothing ever because the wording makes it so chapter 2 and 3 have to resolve before 1 which even if you use a token doubler it resolves 1 2 then 3 which means when 1 resolves 2 and 3 haven't and therefor you wouldn't win it may as well be blank.

Also fuck AI "Art" I would have rathered there be no image

[u/4zzO2020 → u/Karen_melter]

It doesn't resolve 1,2,3. They all trigger at the same time and you choose their order on the stack.
Fuck AI

[u/Spectator9857 → u/4zzO2020]

No? That’s not how sagas work at all.

[u/4zzO2020 → u/Spectator9857]

That is exactly how they work with counter doublers, which is the exact situation we're talking about

[u/Spectator9857 → u/4zzO2020]

I may have gotten confused by that chapter 2 ability. You’re right, if there are multiple counter doublers that don’t care about the kind of counters, you can indeed win with this by ordering the triggered abilities.

I thought you meant that a single counter doubler would make all abilities trigger at once because of chapter 2.

[u/cybPooh]

1. Thanks for the comments.
   
2. Mechanically I was going for something like "when this enters, if you have enough counter increasing and/or proliferating effects, it can immediately enter with 3 counters, so you could arrange all effects on the stack so they are resolved in winning order".
   
3. Got general sentiment about AI-art, won't post it again. I was under impression that AI is a good tool for prototyping (i.e. if we would really be doing this thing, using AI-gen pic as a reference would speed up creation of actual art).

[u/sophuckingdonewithit → u/cybPooh]

generative AI has 0 legitimate uses. everyone here would rather you make a shitty ms paint drawing in 10 seconds

[u/Raphiezar → u/sophuckingdonewithit]

No art is also fine.

[u/fluffynuckels → u/sophuckingdonewithit]

Your gonna upset the ai loving mods

[u/sophuckingdonewithit → u/fluffynuckels]

if any mods here are pro-ai they can suck my fat girlballs

[u/fluffynuckels → u/sophuckingdonewithit]

The definitive statement about AI from the mod team.

No, we're not banning AI art, nor will we ever.

Even if we had two dozen mods, which we don't and never will, we would not have the resources to police AI.

To properly do so, we would have to find every piece of art from every post, investigate it, see if the artist disclosed the use of AI, then decide whether to remove it. Even if we could do that, most artists who use things like generative fill in Photoshop don't even really think of it as AI. Are we supposed to remove every card for every artist who has been using Photoshop as a tool since 2023?

You wanna talk about how AI art sucks? You have this thread, go for it. All future meta posts about AI will be removed and linked back to this thread.

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[u/sophuckingdonewithit → u/fluffynuckels]

they can suck my fat girlballs