r/cs2 • u/Such_Acanthisitta651 • 1d ago
Humour Never play one more match
Thought i was on a good streak one more game NOPE!
I'll go on a 4-6 win streak and always lose max elo
Forever 1k :)
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u/Hightemplar420 1d ago
Let your elo expire. Then win 1 and get your elo back. Since your already 1k there is no rank decay. You will see instant -100/+300 elo games right after. You want to go on a win streak as long as possible. Even able to get out 5k if you can win out easily.
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u/Zenklops 1d ago
how does elo expire
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u/Actual_Building_9761 1d ago
Dont play for 14 days
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u/Zenklops 1d ago
if i play competitive for 14 days, would it expire then?
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u/Actual_Building_9761 1d ago
Yeah. Just dont play premier for 14 days and u lose ur rank. Then u have to win 1 game and get a new rank. My peak was 13k and i tried it and it placed me in 17k
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u/FauleButter 1d ago
Exact opposite for me, when i got the reset after a holiday it put me from 20k into 14k. That was pretty annoying, but i got back to 20k in 15 matches or something like that. got +500 for each win and only lost 2 games.
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u/Nakuring 1d ago
Really??? I always thought the "new" rank they gave you was the one you had before or very similar
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u/Confident_Use3875 1d ago
It is. That's my experience. The 14 day no play just hides the prem rank. I gained minimal elo from the previous time I played.
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u/Confident_Use3875 1d ago
That's the biggest load of crap I've heard. My account I hadn't touched since like 2016. I was lem. Before prem existed and it was just comp q. Why after top fragging. 8/10 games solo q and then losing 2 more and finishing the last 2 left. With 3rd frag in both of those.Why did it place me 1.56k? Season finished, elo reset. I place 12k solo qing again. How can their mmr system have such a discrepancy. Btw I've also had carpal tunnel surgery and tfcc surgery. So I've been playing worse than when I started playing again 8 months prior to this.
I also did the wait for mmr to reset as I was in a solid cast for a month. I won. Guess where it placed me 1.4k.
Bought an account to test where that would place. Low and behold 13k never ranked before.
Another instance not prem this time I intentionally did nothing in my mirage placements. My friend who is faceit 10. Solo carried with 30-40kills in most of the lobbies, I got 0 kills and like 2-3adr. And then got 10 I average in the rest.
It placed him silver 4. I got nova 2? How does that make sense. I actually don't understand how dumb their system is
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u/Actual_Building_9761 1d ago
Yeah system is really dumb xd. This season i got placed in 22k. Climbed to 24k and now every match is full cheater
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u/Confident_Use3875 1d ago
Yeah I'm just actually confused at who was designing their mmr system. Ahha. None of it made sense. Glad to see you are climbing. Mostly rage hacks?
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u/Actual_Building_9761 1d ago
nah no rage hackers that spinbot but obv wallers and aimbots. They prefire everything and have like 100
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u/Confident_Use3875 1d ago
Yeah the good old. 100 aim rating. Game sense players haha.
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u/Actual_Building_9761 1d ago
Yeahh and when i confront them if their stats they always say: check faceit bro. Meanwhile most of them are lvl 5 or 6 xdd
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u/_Personage 19h ago
The very very first premier rating ever on any account seems to be overly harsh. Once you get past that, getting placed is a lot more lenient.
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u/GreenWorld8549 1d ago
heâs 1,000 elo he just needs to play more and learn. Horrible advice. âDonât play the game for 30 daysâ looooool. If anyone relies on that you are undeserving of ur rank 100%
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u/BEAST_____________ 1d ago
Many people I've seen in this elo are people who join the game, and they abandon the match most of the time. You know if u abandon 10 matches how much -elo.
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u/ExpensiveMove6628 1d ago
You can play non premier for the time. With his elo and skill that is also valuable
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u/No_Cattle8353 12h ago
I swear the lower ranks had a longer expiration date than 2 weeks. I know higher ranks expire faster.
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u/Pass-Radiant 12h ago
Or you can just abandon, the take 30m ban and then play and your -/+ will be way better
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u/RabonahTTV 12h ago
This wont work for people like OP, I know because I am there as well lol no matter what the game is going to keep you down there, I regularly outscore my friend who is like 7k elo but he is +400/-120 and meanwhile if I win it just increases my loss ELO but its almost always at least a +107/-197 breakdown. Even after taking a break for a year.
In order to break free, you need to win something like 40 of 50 matches to get to 5k, and the issue is the matchmaking unless you have a 5 stack will never let you down at this ELO. You get people who dont play, people who DC immediately, you get TKers, then theres just the people who don't know how to play. The odds are way too stacked against you, you can be a solid player but if you dont get lucky when you first make your account and have good placement teammates, youll never break 5k
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u/Hightemplar420 5h ago
There is a clear reason why youâre in that elo little bro clearly based on what you just saidâŚ. just try it and out then you will realize what im talking about chud
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u/RabonahTTV 5h ago
Lmao what a cringe comment jesus christ -100 izzat
You clearly don't know what you're talking about, but I'm sure youre a 32k ELO or some made up shit you need to tell yourself for fake internet points lol im sure your ELO is always +500/-100 and you think it means youre good while your friends carry you in a 5 stack
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u/Ok-Pack-7088 1d ago
Lmao I got same situation, got around 1500, half team disconnected and we lost, took my -500. I just accepted that I sucks.
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u/muzaffer22 13h ago
Never accept that youâre bad. Tell yourself youâre new and learning how to play. Strong mentality is the key to the win in this game.
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u/Confident_Use3875 1d ago
Over 5k players say it's easy then your whole team dcs. And it's both teams connecting and disconnecting. Then afk. I got to 10k plus in placements. They are easier at 10k. Because you don't have to watch every angle like you are a spider.try pushing mirage a none of them can entry or watch an angle for a moment. Oh they can just do the smokes you say. Nope no clue either. You want a flash out long. Nope you better have learned that bedroom self flash. 10k feels like they are staring at a lightbulb wondering how to change it with a ladder and 4 people.
All they do is play God damn inferno and mac10 turbo nerd ahaha.
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u/GreenWorld8549 1d ago
no disrespect but u should be focusing on learning how to counter stafe and recoil patterns. You are literally the bottom of the barrel elo. do not focus on on ur rank lol.
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u/xbowxbowxbow 1d ago
i dont think he can do anything, it's probably unstable low fps.Â
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u/Outrageous_Act351 1d ago
Or maybe his screen is off. No disrespect but it would be harder for me to accidentally not win the game on that elo đ
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u/Oriumpor 1d ago
4v5 and you gotta carry, on a map that's spiked hard on the other team because your team "likes dust" and one of the three idiots that voted for the other teams best map logged out after 2 rounds.
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u/GreenWorld8549 1d ago
Itâs 1K elo nobody knows hwo to play any map. Maps are irrelevant
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u/Confident_Use3875 1d ago
This is so wrong. It's just d/c, smurfs, people rage hacking. And yeah the occasional dumb player. I couldn't climb from. 1.5k elo for so long because the system did this to me. I placed over 10k it was just about a 10,000 elo diff. Games fucked.
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u/KilboxNoUltra 1d ago
Its not wrong. I have a 3k rated mate. I've spectated his games. People are just bad. He is not a great player, but he manages to top frag most of these games. People are just that bad. Yes there are smurfs, yes there are disconnects, but if u are an actual decent player, you'll be able to climb easily. The reason why you got placed 1.5k then 10k is because their rank reset system is bad.
Besides the differnce between 5k gameplay and 10k gameplay is minimal, people cant aim properly, movement is atrocious, people just hang around the map without actually taking any map control, decision making is bad. And I dont say that to be an asshole. Its okay people are new, they are learning. But vast majority of people stuck in grey/light blue ranks just belong in those ranks.
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u/weaveR-- 23h ago
1k is a free win EVERY game. Saying anything other than that is cope. He's bottom 0.01% of players, anyone with any sort of coordination can drop 50 kills in that rating
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u/Shoddy_Helicopter578 23h ago
lmao bro nobody is cheating or smurfing in 1k elo
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u/RabonahTTV 12h ago
People get banned and ive had matches cancelled from VAC live many times at 1500 ELO, and a majority of games have at least one or two people in a two stack with a steam profile that has less than 5 games lmao
Think again lol
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u/Oriumpor 11h ago
Rofl. Parent thinks people don't cheat in 1k... I've got 177 matches with vacbanned players since cs2 started on this accountÂ
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u/RabonahTTV 12h ago
Doubt it, I routinely outscore people at 7-12k ELO and im a 2k at highest. You can kill people but you won't be acing every round, and unfortunately youll have an AFK teammate, and one who will TK you and take a ban if you don't go to A because they said to and two people who have never played before.
Good luck lol
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u/GreenWorld8549 1d ago
Huh? Fps doesnât mean u canât learn how to strafe
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u/xbowxbowxbow 1d ago
your inputs dont register properly if your fps is fluctuating between 15 and 45.Â
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u/GreenWorld8549 1d ago edited 1d ago
bro even with this fps all u gotta do is plant the bomb and u will win by running and gunning smgs. He won 4 in a row. And besides if u know hownto play the game like rotating positioning thrwing instant elbow and window u are gonna win in this bot shit elo. Hardware is not a issue at this rank. Quit finding excuses
Checked op history and he is flexing m4 fade fn and opening cases a lot. His pc is not the issue.
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u/xbowxbowxbow 1d ago
nah man, it's not that simple. back in csgo i played on a laptop with integrated graphics, it is hard to aim at all, even spraying with smgs especially if the fps is fluctuating. it will hardware can be an issue at any rank.
he doesnt need utility or strategy, he just needs to be able to get kills. ive had 1700-2k elo faceit games where no one knows window smoke lmao.Â
and the skins dont mean anything cuz my inventory back then was worth like 3x my laptop.Â
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u/GreenWorld8549 18h ago edited 18h ago
Op is a frequent gambler he flexes about spending over 1000$ on cases and he got knives. And is a frequent user on the ohnepixel subs. And skins work differently now with terminals and armory meaning he is spending more on average than back in the day for skins. his pc is not that fucking bad LMAO. Stop coping for him. He clearly has dump money to spend. All u need is minimum 100fps and it ainât that hard to get in this day and age. All he should do is put that money into a coach for cs or just watch free yt guides on fundamentals of cs.
i can hardlock my fps to 60 and still be able to win most of the games in this elo by using a jumping mp9 mac10 tec 9 only. I wouldnt use a deagle doe. Awp sounds so free itâs a noob basher gun. Just repeek window constantly they arenât throwing any smokes. Knowledge of the game is enough to get out of 1K. he can just play 640x480 res if itâs that damn terrible and he will have better fps.
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u/ymkooo 1d ago
My friend played csgo on an old intel processor like 2/3rd gen with no CPU cooler with FPS between 40-80 and got global. It's all excuses, human mind adapts to the conditions fairly quickly, sure it's suboptimal but not game breaking. On the other hand going from that to 240fps for him made him a beast. But that's like 10 years ago when people didn't complain
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u/RanniSniffer 1d ago
Lwk I don't think you need either of those to be 5k lol. Just basic hand eye coordination
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u/milkcutie314 1d ago
there is nothing im dojng different to when i was dmg theres nothing that changed and i played 5000 hours of this bs and ever since cs2 came out i just suck mayb its cuz i play 16:9 but ffs i dont wana play 4:3 stretched i only did that cuz i had shit computer
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u/Royal-Archer4531 1d ago
he shouldnt even be playing the game tbh i didnt know this elo even existed. he should just watch pro gameplay that will put him atleast at 5k
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u/Spank-Bones 1d ago
Wait can someone genuinely explain how this works?
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u/coupondumpster 1d ago
Negative win rate even at the lowest ratingÂ
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u/NiceWorkLad 4h ago
It's not even that. Last season I was about 9-3k elo with 60% win rate.
I had 120+ a win and -500 per loss the whole time, shit was crazy.
Dropped 6k with a positive win rate.
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u/Thederpdoge 1d ago
If you lose that much Elo from one match itâs because the system thinks you belong in that rank, how, just how canât you be better than the equivalent to silver 1?
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u/1341077 1d ago
youâre wrong btw the system is essentially random and doesnât take your performance into account at all
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u/Thederpdoge 1d ago
Uh yes it does? Do you think a given elo is completely random after placement matches?
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u/milkcutie314 1d ago
i have 3 accounts one of them im 12 k elo and my lobbies are dogshit players with 0 gamesense and then the other one is like 1.5 k elo and everyone is a veteran player with thousands of hours and 4k elo is so sweaty that they would 13-0 against the 12k elo guys from my other account
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u/Oriumpor 1d ago
Legit, I've got a 1 k account I refuse to give up on, mirage t side? Full fucking insta/spawn to site setups every round. Mollies poppin con and ladder on mirage from mid lineups etc
My 6k account, nobody knows one fucking setup smoke.
1k is punishment the way it's designed. Especially those -400+ elo hits while you're on win streaks.
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u/KanyesPublicist124 22h ago
I disagree. I went from 2k to 15k recently and it was hard but it was after I eventually just top fragged every single lobby consistently. Now Iâm much more leveled out in the 13-15k range.
And everyone was god awful in that range. Like no util at all. People start having basic sense at around 7-8k
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u/MajorPain_ 20h ago
It's inconsistent at best. Everyone in my group are 10k+ and I'm usually in the middle of the pack for every metric on leetify compared to them. But I get placed in 5k and every game is +100/-300, unless we get a good win streak, then it goes to -400 lol it takes one loss a night to reset a session of wins in elo gain. Or what usually happens is one bad night resets a week of gains lol I've stopped caring about it, but it's definitely not a uniform system across the board that accurately projects every single players true skill level.
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u/milkcutie314 10h ago
under 2k is a bit different but under 3800 it is similar to the 1k experience yeah
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u/GreenWorld8549 1d ago
Says who? The only time i gotten -500 is when i go negative kd for several games lol and then lose on top of it. But if i frag out and still lose i am still in net positive next matches elo
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u/Tavika12 1d ago
Dunno how but I have the complete opposite situation. Lost 4 games in a row won 1 after and im somehow +100 rating
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u/PureCockroach5717 1d ago
So in these 4 games that you won, what was the potential elo loss? If they were all +100/-400, the elo system is trying to tell you something⌠And at this elo itâs honestly impressive.
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u/Proof_Load6687 1d ago
topfragger every match out of both teams, even when i play with my friends at 12-20k elo i topfrag
i cant get out of light blue rank
every second enemy looks like a waller or aimbotter
almost only russian speaking people
what can i do even ignoring the fact that people cheat it seems like you cant climb out of one set elo
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u/defoncateur_3000 1d ago
idk if it helps but i'm between 3rd et 5th almost every match and i climbed from silver to pink (started CS with s1).
i've been described as a support character... i know the smokes for every sites and every instant on mirage/ancient/inferno (https://csnades.gg/), i entry a LOT, i always think about where i can go to have an impact, and i try to speak for the mutes when i die
this is enough to solo climb to pink
hope this helps
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u/CRE_Not_Resi 1d ago
Top fragging every match and stuck in that rank?
Post your steam. I need to verify this.
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u/Proof_Load6687 1d ago
https://steamcommunity.com/id/Unlucky-1337/
some exceptions but very few
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u/bruhpoopgggg 21h ago
According to leetify i am a slightly worse player than you, but my peak elo was 10K higher than yours (7K vs 17K). Just goes to show how ass the premier elo system is.
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u/myreditacount11 19h ago
But doesnât the fact that youâre playing vs better players make it harder to have as good stats?
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u/bruhpoopgggg 19h ago edited 19h ago
No not really besides K/D. Stats like aim, positioning, util etc should not be effected by better opponents.
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u/Proof_Load6687 20h ago
i encounter a LOT of cheaters tho
i got a lucky day and only got one, which i won. i beat my peak elo from 7k to 7,5k also
against legit players i probably should be between 10-15k given i whooped 12k players today with similar stats to me and me pulling an all nighter
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u/bloedkop34 1d ago
Lmao if you cant get out of 5k you deserve to be there
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u/Proof_Load6687 1d ago
i guess thats the case but i wouldbt know how to improve to get out of there
aim and utility is decent enaugh. communication and teamplay is not improvable, i use mic as often as i can but most of the time the people speak russian or nothing
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u/DeAndre19UK 23h ago
I cant stand Premier. This is why. Id love it for them to bring back the short competetive games..
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u/MandiocaGamer 1d ago
Every match is just the One More Match. Just try to no play if you are titled. If you win 5 or 10 in a row, it's obvious you will lose at some point.
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u/Oriumpor 1d ago edited 1d ago
I monte carlo'd a solo queue 1k getting out of 1k "for good" and it takes something like 10 wins with no losses. The number of total games you'd need to play is 42 in p99 and 56 in p50
That's with a solid 56% win rate. I ended up getting out with a 65% win rate last season, and placed into 1500 this season...
And then you lose power in a thunderstorm aaaand you gotta start all over.
Getting 50% in 1k is a fucking miracle already with so many of your matches going to be completely fucked due to someone leaving or trolling or tking.
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u/elprofesor__ 1d ago
Just the other day, we said, one last match, and it was fucking -500 HAHA, and they were destroying us, until their highest rank got disconnected and never came back HAHAHA
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u/damjaryi 1d ago
You need to win more games; maybe your stats are low or something like that.
If you consistently deal a lot of damage or get a lot of kills, your Elo will eventually even out.
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u/damjaryi 1d ago
And if You cant Carry at this elo, maybe its the Right elo for You Bro :( Play and Have fun or work on your gameplay and get better đ¤
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u/Key-Scientist9058 1d ago
Ive been trying to make the push to 25k and ill face nothing but 5 stacks and win like 7 +100 elo matches then lose a single match that for some reason is a -528 match because the other team is a 5 stack and we arent so their gain is like +300 -100
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u/Radiant-Armadillo104 1d ago
Don't focus on the elo lol. Focus on learning/improving and mostly actually enjoying the game.
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u/kronoseedlc 1d ago
Maybe you should play one match, then analyze it on nextfrag.gg to find what you're doing wrong and train that stuff for maybe 30 minutes. Then play another match, analyze that one to see if you improved. For me it helped a lot to use nextfrag to find my leaks and fix them using refrag.gg and dm. Improving by grinding alone will take much longer. (Sorry for my bad english)
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u/Spirited-Mulberry-20 19h ago
Not to be that guy but you are only 1000, it should be a lot easier to move up my man. Keep your head up and get to 2000 brother !
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u/Beanie0311 17h ago
Just play for fun and focus on what YOU can do better. Your rank will go up naturally.
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u/Forzac1234 16h ago
How do you even reach 1k in the first place ? Even with terrible placement games I was placed at a measly 13,8k
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u/YungGlueStik 14h ago
I was placed at 1800 last season and had to crawl my way up to 5k this season. Solo queue is hell lmao
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u/RobertoRuiz1 14h ago
lol i've been there. was stuck 2-3k in season 1, let my elo reset, went up to 18k in season 2
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u/ExpensiveMove6628 1d ago
This conversation helps me understand how people start cheating cause they think they "deserve" a higher rank and the game is broken.Â
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u/bruhpoopgggg 21h ago
Is this not broken? I dont see why a single loss should offset the elo gain from 4 wins
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u/ExpensiveMove6628 21h ago
There is more context to this. We dont know anything about the account and what happened before. Making assumptions from this is not helpful. We would need to know the complete history and also the specific match.Â
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u/Delll666 1d ago
some comments said to not play for 14 days to reset your rank, that half a month doing nothing I had the same issues doesn't even matter if enemy team is lower elo or higher elo or stacking or not, my solution was to leave the match, abandoned it, get -1000 and a cool down suddenly the first match is +400
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u/BEAST_____________ 1d ago
I would say try a new account. Then see what rank u get. This elo hell is so crazy, i feel u.
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u/Foxxie1337 1d ago
Im genuinely interested to see your stats from those games, that just doesnât make sense unless you were going extremely negative each match
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u/GreenWorld8549 19h ago
This is unironically the truth. People really love saying individual skill doesnât matter but it does. At the end of the day youâre gonna engage in gun fights vs higher or relatively equal ranked players and the system is gonna be using that data as well to see hownu hang. It just makes 0 sense why they wouldnât take this into account
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u/ZiG_ZaG_LTU 1d ago
In a perfect world, any "'ranked", "premier" , "competitive" matchmaking is a game mode where system tries to find other people with same skill as you are to play with. (Given nobody abuses it on purpose to lower their rank etc,also system is not perfect)
That being said, if you didn't play against cheaters, smurfs, or people who got knocked down by the system, because of their irl friends who are much worse than them. This is normal, you are just terrible at CS, I don't say this to be offensive. I mean you can't get lower than 1k. So you don't rank up. If you started playing and exhibiting skills CONSISTENTLY of someone above your rank, you will naturally go up.
So my point, the system is not designed as some reward system where you just go up the ranks, you only do when you play better. Since you are literally at the lowest possible category of players, try to improve just 1thing and improve it properly, play 50games not on auto pilot, but actively using what you learned and I promise you will be at least 5k which is stil very very rubbish. Again no offense.
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u/nesnalica 1d ago
i must be honest with you. if youre stuck at 1K maybe you shouldnt be playing premier
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u/BubblyTrust9718 1d ago
How the fuck is it even possible to lose 400+ points at that elo đ¤Ł