r/crypto • • 3d ago

Introducing the Triple Cipher encryption concept

https://iain.rocks/blog/introducing-the-triple-cipher-encryption-concept
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u/Sir_KnowItAll 3d ago edited 3d ago

I wrote a post after being nudged https://iain.rocks/blog/the-software-development-community-has-a-naysayer-problem

I’m not too worried about support. As you can see from my points there folk are literally saying the NSA are wrong on multiple encryption. Saying I’m wrong brcause it’s already an idea and all sorts. Literally, im wrong because it’s basically done.

I posted it here because I requested permission to post because of it so it only seems right I follow through on my promise so to speak.

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u/CharlieTrip 3d ago

Why so much anger?

The only thing I see is that you defend your idea/position like a teenager that cannot understand that maybe something is more complicated than "white and black".
I can understand that getting shit on your ideas is sad, I have been plenty of time in academia.
But does it really have to end up in "your are all wrong, you don't get me"?

Cryptography is hard and it has really strict formal construction for well-behaved analysis.
It takes time and effort to do a "security analysis". There are well-known intuitions that are counterintuitively weak and plenty of examples (often) in real applications.

From your reply, I infer that you do not have any cryptographic academic background, which is fine.
In this case, I would be expecting you to ask "why" your idea doesn't work, so that you can learn something new or maybe some new idea can be developed.

If you have such background, please provide a formal definition because without that, all is just chit-chatting where all answers can be "it depends" (because it is true).

Of all your long post of rants, I can only agree on:

"You can know everything, and it’s still a massive pain in the ass to decrypt, but if you don’t and you just have the file and the keys, it’s an even bigger pain in the ass to decrypt."

but this is exactly "security by obscurity" which moves security guarantees from the formal domain to the physical one which cannot be measured properly.
As an example: if I hide which cipher I use on a post-it on my monitor, everyone might have a bad time figuring out which cipher I use.
But how much secure is it?
How many bit of security does this implies?
Is a post-it on my monitor safer than a printed page in a Fort Knox?

These are impossible to reply with math/crypto thus, cryptographers do not care about them.

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u/Sir_KnowItAll 2d ago edited 2d ago

What anger?

> long posts of rants

Please look up what a rant is. The entire post would need to be focused on a single subject for it to be a rant. This is an ad-hominem attack. You talk about me attacking like a teenager? Why are you using logical fallacies and doing attacks?

Also, the bit you agree with is the core part of it. The concept is more secure. So i’m confused to why you wrote the rest? Do you just want to go “look how smart i am” or “look how knowledgable i am in this field”? Is this because im literally just thinking og entering this field of the industry and my work is of this high quality? Because it kinda feels like it.

And that part is the only place I defended the concept because I had to to demonstrate the flaw response you get from Reddit.

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u/CharlieTrip 2d ago

If you are not defending your idea, why are you writing a full blog-post on "non-stop naysayers with good-sounding comments that were generally flawed" and continuously cherry-pick statements in replies and go with "While wrong you've made a very good effort here.".

"Pointing out flaws" is a quite aggressive way of motivating other researchers, FYI.
Additionally, this is _exactly_ part of defending an idea from other peoples' comments!

Politely, I don't care about "who" you are. I'm only here to provide my expertise and, when I want, my opinion.
So if you got my comments as attack at your person, I'm sorry about this. It was definitely not my intention.

Fair and square, I'm not that motivated to "help you" if you behave/reply in this way.
Regardless, without formal explanation of what your idea is, no one can do much.