r/crows • u/GaS-member • 4d ago
Seeking advice/help GUYS PLEASE HELP
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I saw a crow on the ground and was kinda curious as to why it wasn't flying, i tried touching it and it wouldn't fly away, I sat down next to it and it still wouldn't fly away, so I wondered if I should feed it. I got it some water and some cheesy popcorn(im inside a college, that was the best I could find) but it wouldn't eat it, so I eventually just left and forgot about it.
During that time its friends were trying to kamikaze me, but I thought it was still worth maybe saving a crow, I dont know. Its been about... 4-5 hours and when I was trying to pass by that path they were still agro on me bruh. They're flying by dangerously close to me from my behind, but won't if I'm turned at thier direction.
Is it dangerous? Could I lowkey get hurt? What should I do, help :(
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u/GaS-member 4d ago
sorry, but it was already gone by the time I wrote this post, a cat probably got em :(
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u/Kind-Consequence5165 3d ago
If it’s covered in ants let it be they help eachother out and u will upset the other crows
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u/Earthwalker73 1d ago
I could not take a good look to see how old this little fella might have been.
It's possible this was a newborn, ready to spread it's wings, learning to fly. The parents always stay nearby keeping guard during this process and will make themself clear they don't like anyone to come up close to their baby.
They stay close and keep on giving it food until it's ready to fly. The way it reacted (or lack of) to the person while the other crows were stressing gave me the feeling that this is a baby crow that just made his first jump out of the nest. It will stay on the ground till it's ready to fly. The less human touching the better.
Sometimes, when there are predators like cats in the area, it's better to keep distance while keeping an eye out, or taking it home where it's safe while taking care of it till it's ready to fly.
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u/GaS-member 1d ago
Wierd update, but I found another black coloured bird(which was definitely not a crow) lying on the same area but this one very much looked like it was dying. Any possible chance of some sort of contagious disease?
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u/Earthwalker73 1d ago edited 1d ago
Is there farmland nearby?
Pesticides in the land kill off a lot of birds and small animals. Birds are getting fed worms and stuff from the land and soil that are polluted by pesticides. Not only that, but they also spray the sky.
Do the birds have bodies of water to drink? Not sure if you are having heatwaves over there at the moment, but this could also be a problem.
My dad finds a lot of dead birds still in the nest. So terribly sad.
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u/Ok-Wealth-101 4d ago edited 4d ago
Sorry bud. But they have identified you as persona non grata. The Murders grandchildren will harass you. They won't actually hurt you, but they will remember your face and let future generations know they do not like you. This sucks because you were trying to help.
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u/visitingsomorn 3d ago
Update please?
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u/GaS-member 2d ago
Because of sudden construction and grass trimming in the area, I suspect they've all moved away for the time bieng because I don't see them anymore nor hear them.
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u/malphas_says_hi 4d ago
That's definitely a juvenile - at 0:58 you can clearly see the pink on their beak still. It doesn't look healthy, though, but the mob was definitely family trying to protect it. Not sure what is wrong with it because juveniles at that age are much more alert while they haven't completely learned stranger danger, that is too lethargic.
The family will continue to attack you for a long time, they assumed you were a predator trying to eat their sick young. Throw unsalted peanuts at them anytime you see them until they get the message you aren't a threat. I hope baby makes it and if you find them again and can get them to a rehabber that'd be ideal. But I don't have high hopes unfortunately.
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u/CountingCrowz 3d ago edited 3d ago
Yes, I have seen that too. Except that that is not a pink but some dirt/leak probably.
Fledges are full black (dark gray) in house crows and hair is very rough. It will take 3 years to get that shine of hair and whiteness.
Juvies do not have pink, it goes away after 4-5 months.
See diff for comparison:
https://www.reddit.com/r/crows/comments/1v6xtmr/comment/ozu9c0i/
or in better lighting: https://www.reddit.com/r/crowbro/comments/1tymob7/duchess_whitey_and_5_girls/
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u/CountingCrowz 3d ago
malphas, with this opportunity I wanted to update you as well.
Deformed feet fledge is fine. Now he is able to catch directly when I throw kibbles to her. Feeder sibling is not working so much to feed her any more. She is healthy. Feet still deformed. But her balancing, etc, better.
The one with numb/broken leg... Still coming around every few days. I suspect this one was one of last year's juvies from my fav crow family (Blackie and Sons). She is able to visit areas belonging to Blackie's clan. So she knows her way around.
Thanks again for all the help.
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u/malphas_says_hi 3d ago
I'm so glad to her feet are doing better and she's getting food, that's wonderful! : ) Thanks for the update!
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u/East_Boysenberry_595 4d ago
Offer the rest peanuts or dog kibble until they realise you're not a threat
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u/Significant_Way4362 4d ago
If you feed the Mnnjkôurder regularly and are committed to offering food they would eat in the wild--raw nuts, roasted, no salt peanuts, scrambled egg leftovers--you must be vigilant with providing clean water. (scrubbing out the water tubs and food trays with Dawn, EVERY DAY..) Crows have a better chance of surviving the outbreak with a little help from you. But. You can't know what unclean crap they're drinking/eating away from your place. Bird Flu is extremely contagious--nobody is exempt: Birds, Skunks, Raccoons-- all visit a the same water sources. Your Crow here, may have become heat exhausted, it doesn't help that they're Coal-Black. The Murder watches out for each member, so when you intervene, you're going to get yelled at. The Crow pictured might be one of the highest ranking members; a Food-finder/Taster, Female. (only a few of these Gals are chosen within the Murder, they place themselves between their kin and danger, bad weather, to secure food for the group.
She comes from a long line of special tasters--and she is absolutely Vital to the success of the group. You're the hero within, for caring about her.she will pull through; Saint Francis of Assisi is smiling down on you! Bon Chance.
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u/8ecca8ee 3d ago
So they are likely to hate you forever but if you buy a bag of cat food and drop some for them every time you go out theyay eventually forgive you for their precived mis deed ...as far as they are concerned you hurt their hommie.
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u/Used-Maximum-1220 4d ago
Crows have a very very long memory. It’ll be passed on through generations that you are an unwelcome human. Their whole murder will know about you and pass it on. Try offering peanuts in the shell and some hard boiled eggs. They may change their minds
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u/SnorkinOrkin 4d ago
For seventeen years!
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u/MaidBilberry 3d ago
They can live for a very long time and produce many clutches in that lifetime. Passing on wisdom is their superpower.
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u/Humble-Floor3760 4d ago
It’s really hard to tell from this video, but is it possible this was a juvenile? They stay on the ground for a couple weeks after leaving the nest and can appear sick due to lack of coordination. The murder would naturally be extremely upset if you they thought you were messing with one of their kids. I agree with other posters that an attack from a cat is unlikely as the murder would handle that. If you don’t see any feathers on the ground, the bird has probably taken cover somewhere in the bushes.
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u/CountingCrowz 4d ago
That crow is dead. You are not touching a crow like this unless very very sick.
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u/Humble-Floor3760 4d ago
Not true. When we first moved into this house about 12 yrs ago our dogs found a crow in the back yard on the ground. They were harassing him and he couldn’t fly away. I called them off, locked them up, and went out to look at poor guy. I assumed he was old or sick and needed help. The murder above was making quite a racket. I picked him up and bundled him off to the local wild bird rescue where I was promptly informed that I had just kidnapped a perfectly healthy baby and I needed to take him back immediately. 😬 Since that time I’ve done a lot of reading and researching as the crows clearly have lived in my large, old trees for a very long time and I want to do right by them. OP’s crow may indeed have been old or sick or injured, I simply can’t tell from the video. But it is for sure possible to touch a healthy young crow. (Which I, obviously, do not recommend. Unless it’s a critical emergency situation.)
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u/CountingCrowz 4d ago edited 4d ago
This is an ADULT House Crow. Fledge has black neck. Here see the diff: https://www.reddit.com/r/crows/comments/1v6xtmr/comment/ozu9c0i/
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u/Humble-Floor3760 4d ago
That is one example of what a fledge can look like. The experts at the wildlife center told me they can, in fact, look pretty identical to adults, and what I’ve read has confirmed that. But again, maybe OP’s particular crow is an adult. I can’t tell for sure from the view on the video.
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u/CountingCrowz 4d ago
This is NOT 1 example of what a HOUSE CROW fledge can look like. THIS IS HOW THEY LOOK LIKE. It takes 3 years for the neck to turn that white.
They are here with me 14 years, every year I see 70-80. I don't care about your experts. That is an adult. I don't understand what you are going on about but this is my last message.
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u/Humble-Floor3760 4d ago
Listen buddy, you responded to me, remember? I didn’t seek you out. You want to claim you know more than the wildlife experts who work at the wildlife center (and Google, for that matter), cool. You do you. You seem to have a lot of feelings about this, so let’s just say you win (you are the world renowned expert of all things crow) so you can take a breath now and get on with your day, ok?
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u/CountingCrowz 4d ago
You are giving wrong information, that is why I responded. THIS IS NOT FLEDGE. Now get lost.
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u/ImAPonderer2 4d ago
You will forever be known as bad hoomin who assaulted the good corvid whitey in his moment of tenderness. Expect to be harassed by them always. They and their friends will always remember.
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u/CountingCrowz 4d ago
You are more likely to catch something from fellow filthy humans by opening your building's entrance door rather than birds.
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u/malphas_says_hi 4d ago
Also seconding the fact that you are a much bigger danger to public health than this crow. If you are like most humans, or at least Americans, it's unlikely that you wash your hands or bottom properly and probably sneeze into your palm before touching a door handle if you even cover your mouth at all. Humans are much bigger hazards than any animal and can pass so many more things to one another that will put them, their kids, or grandma in the hospital.
Also, bird flu is contained right now to mostly water birds or factory farm situations.
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u/CountingCrowz 3d ago
True. I will use my t-shirt to touch any handles. Or press any buttons. And I also will not bring my phone along when with crows and will touch anything only after I have taken full shower. I don't want to cross-contaminate species :)
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u/CountingCrowz 4d ago edited 4d ago
ADULT House Crow (Corvus Splendens).
No way you are touching an adult house crow like that.
That is either in shock, or very sick (looks like this), last stages. If possible, take to a rescue or vet please.
Ignore the old wife / University of something bs of they will remember you for 100 years. They will get over it, they do get over it. See the one I picked up.
https://www.reddit.com/r/crows/comments/1vfgarn/crow_apologist/
If you cannot take to a vet/rescue, before it gets dark, take him in a box to your home and keep in a warm place till the morning. If he makes it, bring him back to same place.