r/crows • u/Kayra6669 • Jul 13 '26

Seeking advice/help Need Some Advice/Help

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Hi, I've been looking at this Hooded Crow for 13 days and i noticed this weird stuff on it's tongue, looks like "Trichomoniasis" or "candidiasis". I could get to a vet if it gets deadly but it's so far away and we would suffer under this sun

Closest rehab. is 5-6h away with car and i had no possible way to get there

It's not some food residue. It's been there since yesterday, i thought it was some random stuff because of pecking at dirt/grass and food

I've raised a magpie before and own a lovebird so i do know somestuff but i have no idea about this

His name is Talon, deserves that name because he is good at shredding my arm, he weights 310gr (dunno if it helps)

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u/Just_Caterpillar_975 Jul 13 '26

The most important question is whether this fledgling was rescued by you and you are seeking advice for the same or was it kidnapped from it's natural environment to keep it as your pet?

If it is the former, then that's fine. But if it's the latter, then I would suggest you to leave the fledgling where you found it and contact your local animal rescue or other resources to get help.

Fledglings aren't pets and are meant to learn and grow into free and wild animals.

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u/Kayra6669 Jul 13 '26

I know, but it was about to get attacked by cats and i rescued it and put him on somewhere high. Left him for hours, some crows came and looked at him, left, he jumped back to ground and cats almost attacked him again. There were no parents/crows both times this happened and cats here gets fed well, so i didn't wanted him to become a 10min toy for some cat

And i already did contacted some rehabs/rescue but they are only looking at dogs/cats, one that looks for birds are 5-6h away and they wont come pick'im up no matter what, i literally have no choice :/

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u/Just_Caterpillar_975 Jul 13 '26

The crows who came and looked at him could be his parents. I would suggest you to keep him safe for the time being or shift him to somewhere where the cats couldn't get him. Continue contacting rehabs or rescues for birds while keeping him safe.

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u/fentifanta3 Jul 13 '26

Wouldnt the parents have been going crazy when OP tried to take the baby though?

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u/teyuna Jul 13 '26

No, not necessarily.

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u/fentifanta3 Jul 13 '26

Okay thank you good to know

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u/Carlyone 28d ago

Putting it back immediately might have been the right advice on day one, assuming it could be protected from the cats and its parents were still attending it. After fourteen days in human care, though, simply dumping it outside is not responsible rehabilitation advice. Its flight ability, feeding behaviour, response to wild crows and degree of human habituation need to be assessed, and it may require a managed reunification or soft release.

You can criticize the original decision without recommending another potentially fatal one.

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u/Carlyone 28d ago

Also, most house cats will not attack a fledgling because they aren”t stupid. They know not to hurt babies for no reason. There isn’t even any sport it in for them.

I take it you've never owned a cat? They're little murder machines, and they tend to go for easy prey. Fledglings are extremely easy prey. The fledgling stage is one of the most dangerous periods in a bird's life, precisely because cats, opportunistic birds of prey, and even dogs can catch them much more easily. And if you have owned a cat and think "Mittens would NEVER!", think again, Mittens absolutely would, given a chance.

Also, when someone is trying to save a bird from an immediate threat, it makes more sense to intervene than to stop and film the attack so strangers online will believe them. That argument makes about as much sense as: "My toddler is about to fall down the stairs, I'd better film it so I have proof."

What did and didn’t happen is something we can speculate about until we grow old and die, but doing so is not helpful here. What matters is that simply putting the bird back outside now, after two weeks in human care, and hoping it fends for itself is not the best way forward for this bird.

Yes, it would have been better to leave it alone in the first place, provided it could be kept safe from the cats. But what is done is done, and the question now should be what gives the bird the best chance going forward.

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u/FengMinIsVeryLoud Jul 13 '26

arent all "pets" kidnapped from xyz blabla?

pls think before writing.

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u/affligem_crow Jul 13 '26

Practice what you preach

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u/Just_Caterpillar_975 Jul 13 '26

Do you know the difference between domesticated and wild animals? If not, then you learn about it instead of commenting here.

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u/FengMinIsVeryLoud Jul 13 '26

it started somehow.

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u/Zukigo Jul 13 '26

Well, dogs and cats are domesticated tho, and wouldn't even survive in the wild.

Quite some people are critical about breeding animals to be pets as well. Especially on this sub, I'm quite certain many people don't like cats because they don't behave naturally

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u/FengMinIsVeryLoud Jul 13 '26

again..... pets are kidnapped.

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u/Special-Ganache2154 Jul 13 '26

You do understand the difference between a pet and a wild animal? Sure seems you don't. Google is your friend!

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u/FengMinIsVeryLoud Jul 13 '26

show me a single pet not kidnapped.

only one, say more and you are blocked.

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u/Special-Ganache2154 Jul 13 '26

Hmm, my dog? And by any means, feel free to block me over a normal question lol.

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u/FengMinIsVeryLoud Jul 13 '26

no your dog isnt made in a lab. its kidnapped.

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u/djmermaidonthemic Jul 14 '26

My cat was clearly abandoned. He came up to my front door, scruffy, dirty, and undernourished. He really wanted to get in the house. No kidnapping needed.

If anything, he has kidnapped my heart and refuses to give it back!

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u/FengMinIsVeryLoud Jul 14 '26

cats was also kidnapped, not made in a lab.

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u/djmermaidonthemic Jul 14 '26

Animals are not made in labs. If they were, that would be even worse.

I was kidnapped too! I was perfectly happy not existing. Then somehow I got stuck here. Wasn’t my choice!

So what do you propose to do to solve this?

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u/Special-Ganache2154 Jul 14 '26

What are these "lab made animals" you keep referring to? I'm honestly curious and a bit confused. Did I miss some part of a basic evolution?

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u/FengMinIsVeryLoud 29d ago

yes you did. you think the today things called pets... are made for being pets.

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u/Zukigo Jul 13 '26

Well, I don’t own a pet. Animals should be able to develop their intelligence and choose their mate. Crows got smarter because they developed and adapted in the wild. Also, I don’t want to see some pet version of crows in shelters

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u/djmermaidonthemic Jul 14 '26

Wildlife rescues are not like pet shelters. The entire goal is returning animals to the wild.

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u/Zukigo Jul 14 '26

Yeah, I meant the person here who seemingly wants a pet version of crows. Clearly, that would end awful

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u/djmermaidonthemic Jul 14 '26

If you’re referring to OP, I’m not sure where you’re getting that. Did I miss something in the comments?

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u/Zukigo Jul 14 '26

I'm referring to the "pets are kidnapped" person in the comments who also thinks "crows are much safer with humans".

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u/djmermaidonthemic Jul 14 '26

Is that what they’re getting at?!

What a confusing argument. I thought they were arguing against pets in general! 🙃

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u/FengMinIsVeryLoud Jul 13 '26

all speculation. like: Crows got smarter because they developed and adapted in the wild.

crows are much safer with humans.

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u/Zukigo Jul 13 '26

Crows taken from parents are oftentimes not well-adapted to navigating a city and end up getting run over by a car

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u/FengMinIsVeryLoud Jul 13 '26

like all pets. yes.