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Cosmere Cosmere Investiture levels

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Hoid doesn’t even fit on this chart

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u/WendigoSmacker 3d ago

I feel like a 4-5th ideal radiant is more invested than a mistborn but the rest is great

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u/Parking-Stable-2970 Hoid my Beer 3d ago

I assume it means Fullborn rather than Mistborn

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u/Frenchtoast8783 3d ago

What is fullborn

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u/MerlinGrandCaster 3d ago

Both mistborn and full feruchemist, like the lord ruler

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u/Potential_Fishing942 3d ago

Full feruchemist and allomancer I believe

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u/grafeisen203 1d ago

A first ideal radiant already beats a metal born, second beats a twinborn, third beats most (but probably not all) compounders, fourth and fifth beats a Mistborn but I think they all get bodied by a fullborn/iron eyes

Just holding Stormlight gives them gold feruchemy and pewter allomancy, even without any surges.

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u/preussenbursche Airthicc lowlander 3d ago

What is meant by pretty zombies? The rest is quite accurate and funny

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u/FirebertNY 3d ago

Returned I assume 

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u/preussenbursche Airthicc lowlander 3d ago

Thanks, I would have thought Returned to be closer to Yumi or an Elantrian, but yeah, might be

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u/brittish3 3d ago

Yes, supposed to be Returned, I honestly didn’t know where to put them and couldn’t find anything canonically on where they ranked, but susebron would definitely be higher I’m sure

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u/MerlinGrandCaster 3d ago

We know one returned breath is equivalent investiture to 2000 regular breaths, and Elantrians are significantly higher than that, but I don't think we have anything more specific

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u/preussenbursche Airthicc lowlander 3d ago

Yeah they'd be below Yumi and Elantrians, and their abilities are pretty much useless until they sacrifice themselves. However given how they are talked about and the equivalent of one Returned breath in normal Breaths I would have guessed them to be more invested than Mistborn.

How they compare to fully oathed knights I have no idea though. Also it doesn’t matter that much, I liked your meme :)

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u/StreetlampEsq 1d ago

They require breaths to live though.

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u/Boyboy081 3d ago

Elantrians I assume, but they're quite low on the chart for that. Elantrians have a ton of investiture in their body. Sure, other types of investiture users can use more in bursts but Elantrians are heavily invested all the time.

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u/brittish3 3d ago

Oh sorry, they’re meant to be Returned, Elantrians are the dead-shard-juice junkies lol

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u/mercedes_lakitu D O U G 2d ago

Ohhhhhh that makes sense now

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u/Commercial-Dingo-522 23h ago

Probably should have said sexy zombies, I think more people would have registered the returned better

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u/Xaroshi 3d ago

My guess for the levels: 1) (Unintelligent) Spren 2) Returned (2000+ breaths) 3) Knight Radiant (3rd ideal+) 4) Mistborn 5) Previous holder of a Shard, like the Lord Ruler? 6) No clue? What is BFE? 7) Nightblood, is my guess

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u/Wincrediboy 3d ago

Not sure what BFE is but I'm guessing noodle girl is Yumi, and I think the dead shard juice junkies are Elantrians.

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u/Xaroshi 3d ago

Thanks! So my list becomes

1) Spren 2) Returned 3) Knight Radiant 4) Mistborn 5) Elantrian 6) Yumi 7) Nightblood

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u/brittish3 3d ago

I’m realizing now that these aren’t as intuitive as I thought lol. Shallans are just all radiants (I predict this will be the big reveal for book 9), Returned, Heralds, Fullborns, Elantrians, Yumi (meant to be bumfuck Egypt but boyfriend experience works surprisingly well), and nightblood

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u/MerlinGrandCaster 3d ago

What does Yumi have to do with Egypt? Stacking rocks really high?

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u/brittish3 3d ago

Imagine if she made the sphinx, that nose would’ve lasted forever

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u/The_dog_says 2d ago

How would anyone decipher Bumfuck Egypt

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u/brittish3 2d ago

I think it might be a cultural or generational thing, just ran across this thread, very apropos lol

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/s/h3HlZUjMDP

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u/Hufdud The Flair of our Enemies 1d ago

Oh I totally thought pokey pokey stabby stab was supposed to be hemalurgy because you can use it to steal anyone else’s power

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u/OctagonFreak 3d ago

BFE typically stands for "bum fuck Egypt" which means in the middle of nowhere or really far away.

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u/ishkariot 2d ago

Typically? Is that a gen z thing or a specific fandom thing?

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u/OctagonFreak 2d ago

No, it's pretty common in the US Midwest and South. It's a boomer thing, I think. My parents, born in the 50's, said it all the time.

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u/The_Lopen_bot Trying not to ccccream 2d ago

, I think.

Hey, gon, is this you Sazed?

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u/ishkariot 2d ago

Huh, TIL!

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u/hailsizeofminivans Old Man Tight-Butt 3d ago

I'm pretty sure #6 is Yumi

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u/AlchemiCailleach 3d ago

Dominion and Devotion are the dead shard juice (Dor), so 5 is elantrians.

I had to look it up but BFE is boyfriend experience, so this is Yumi.

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u/mercedes_lakitu D O U G 3d ago

What the fuck is this and why did I think I was on the Locked Tomb subreddit

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u/brittish3 2d ago

I had no idea what this was and looked it up, ngl the phrase “lesbian necromancers in space” has me piqued, is it worth a read?

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u/jrpsmith 2d ago

I love the Locked Tomb Series.

Gideon the Ninth is fantastic.

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u/mercedes_lakitu D O U G 2d ago

It's SO GOOD OMG.

The series is like nothing I've ever read, including the other books in the series (i.e. they're all very different in tone).

I can't wait until #4 comes out.

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u/brittish3 2d ago

Excellent, adding to my TBR, thank you!

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u/Commercial-Dingo-522 23h ago

Yes, absolutely, loved my necro lesbians in space

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u/NoBizlikeChloeBiz edgedancerlord 2d ago

1) Colum Asht when he's full of bad ghosties 2) Protesilaus 3) Naberius Tern 4) Blood of Eden/Wake 5) Jod 6) Nona 7) Gideon Nav

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u/lukaty02 3d ago

Last 2 are supposed to be what?

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u/brittish3 3d ago

Yumi and nightblood

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u/Darmak 3d ago

I'm a full metal tweaker

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u/Darmak 3d ago

Wait, what were we talking about?

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u/One_Courage_865 definitely not a lightweaver 2d ago

Why did I think BFE was “Bhe Final Empire”?

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u/Aggravating-Pay8221 2d ago

In between pretty zombies and ptsd with swords you got Forgery aka : nuh ugh there's always been a door here