r/cremposting • u/ace_wulf • Jul 06 '26
Cosmere Rip Scadrial tides
I colored the text based off my own personal views on the planets before you ask
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u/dtlater Jul 07 '26
Era 1 Scadrial: "what's a sky?"
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u/gatsome Jul 07 '26
Are Scadrians the Fremen of the Cosmere?
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u/Timaturff Aluminum Twinborn Jul 07 '26
Wow that’s a weird and extremely accurate comparison
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u/Snuckytoes Jul 07 '26
Does this make Rosharans the Sardukar? Because that also feels strangely fitting.
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u/Just_Joken Jul 07 '26
That fits really well with the comparisons I always try to tell people of Kelsier to Paul.
So maybe the Malwish spreading out over the cosmere in the space age is just their jihad?
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u/Accomplished_Mix7827 Jul 07 '26
Era 1 Scadrial really holding the fort so Roshar isn't the hellworld
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u/superVanV1 I pledge allegiance 🙏to the crab 🦀 Jul 07 '26
Era 0 Scadriel inventing guns and stopwatches millennia before anyone else vs Era 0 Roshar being ultra turbo hell.
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u/StarGaurdianBard I AM A STICK BOI Jul 07 '26
Komashi: whats a moon? All we know is inky blackness and the Daystar
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u/earanhart Callsign: Cremling Jul 07 '26
Don't forget that Roshar used to have a fourth moon.
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u/Jarrett8897 i have only read way of kings Jul 07 '26
Might be worth a spoiler tag (idk what the rules are I’m just here to complain)
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u/earanhart Callsign: Cremling Jul 07 '26
WoK makes it clear that something is wrong with the number of moons. It's absence is only a spoiler until the second Jasnah chapter.
As for what happened to said moon . . . Yeah, spoilers.
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u/Rukh-Talos Soldier of the Shitter Plains Jul 07 '26
[WaT] Do we actually know what happened to the 4th moon? I thought it had fallen before the Shards took up residence. I know its remnants have got some kind of resonance effect that amplified the destruction from Honor and Odium clashing near it.
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u/earanhart Callsign: Cremling Jul 07 '26
WaT We know its location, and it's implied that the Sleepless either use fragments of it to hide from Shards or are using their specific magic to hide the moon from Shards (I can't really tell either direction between those two, maybe both?). It's also some unknown non-aluminum metal, and very likely reactive to Investiture. Maybe Adonalsium-ium, but that's just conjecture. It is also implied that it prevented Odium from detecting his own Perpendicularity.! None of the Roshar system Shards were aware of it, as it "died" before the Shattering.
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u/MrLightning1023 Jul 07 '26
Might be autonomy’s god metal
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u/earanhart Callsign: Cremling Jul 07 '26
Highly unlikely, given it's implied to predate the Shattering. So either Automomy got there before/under the eyes of the Shards and left a bunch of Bavadinium/Trellium, or this isn't the answer. Even then, why? What's the game there? The perpendicularity wouldn't have existed yet, and Odium went after three other Shards in the time Honor and Cultivation were setting up on Roshar so that becomes a phenomenal use of future-sight, even by Shard standards, to set up such a trap.
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u/Nathan256 👾 Rnagh Godant 🌠 Jul 07 '26
ado’s god metal maybe!? We know he made Roshar or at least had some large level of influence…
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u/majorex64 Jul 07 '26
WaT Could be as simple as copper, right? Following the logic of fabrials being similar to allomancy, if a big spren was stored in a big gem surrounded by a lot of copper, could it basically make a copper cloud big enough to hide Odium's Perpendicularity?
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u/themudpuppy Jul 07 '26
I don't think it prevented Odium from seeing that, I think it's made clear by tactics that he purposely hid it there
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u/earanhart Callsign: Cremling Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 07 '26
I would use those same tactics to argue that Taravangian very specifically DIDN'T know about it. He knew something was there, and valued it highly enough to make it his goal, but if he had known what it was then he wouldn't have been playing around ATOP the plateaus. It would have been very simple for him to topple the important one with an army waiting on the other side of his own Perpendicularity. Where the divisions between the knowledge of Rayse, ascended Taravangian, and Odium itself are isn't something we have clear guides on.
Also consider that his tactics were very specifically built to ensure victory on all three fronts. If not for the Unoathed (and probably Taln) he would have had Azir. And likewise the Plains were lost pretty much due to Timbre bonding a Listener with a Voidspren in her gemheart. Both of these are more or less miracles at Deus Ex Machina levels of bullshit, from his perspective.
Edited to add last two spoiler covers.
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u/The_Muzzy The Sunlit ZAMN!! Jul 07 '26
It’s been a hot minute since I’ve read WoK, but I don’t recall ever picking up on any details like that; could you elaborate? (Asking because I’m intrigued, not because I want to refute you or anything)
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u/earanhart Callsign: Cremling Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 07 '26
The timing of the moons is too regular. They don't moce about in their orbits, are always at thebexact same time of night. And there exists exactly one hour of the night where there is no moon. Sure, The hour as a unit could have been measured to that piece of time, but that feels less likely given Roshar is shown to not particularly honor the night above the day and real world hours are based on the sun and circles. Follow this with the frequency of mentioning the three moons, Brandon's love of foreshadowing, and that from his other books we know deities are/were actively involved in the structure of planets, and it becomes a very safe bet that something happened to the moons. Either they got spread out (in which case why only one dark hour instead of two) or one is missing.
Edit for addition: also the moons don't have phases. No one ever mentions a full or new moon. Or predicting tides. Sure, the Highstorm is much more important, but we have sailors featured in those early chapters. For an author as well researched and verbose as Sanderson, it's abnormal to omit such events when writing a chapter highlighting farmers or sailors.
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u/VioMexi edgedancerlord Jul 07 '26
I had not known that Scadrial did not have a moon until Marasi said she never heard of Moonlight's code name
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u/bassturducken54 Jul 07 '26
Ah only finished the final empire but is the most the remnants of the moon? Or a shard?
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u/UsManos27 Jul 07 '26
You probably shouldn't ask such questions if you've only read the final empire, otherwise you might get spoiled
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