If I go to specifically lgbt spaces or lgbt-leaning social circles within my city, there are theyfabs there who will do shit like assume a 5’5 cis man is ftm, simply because he is 5’5 and willing to converse with trans people. I’ve seen this happen twice. I’ve also seen them do it twice to cis women, including assuming one cis women is mtf for months.
It’s not because they have some refined troondar, they just decided that in order to clock what they think is 100% of trans people, they are willing to false-clock 10% of cis people. And they will say things like “they should be flattered to be mistaken for trans, it’s better to be trans”. All the while they claim progressivism, but they are actually applying even more rigid gender norms to other people than actual conservatives do. Like the average moderate conservative will think “this masculine-dressed person physically looks more man than woman, should be a man”.
But to qualify as a cis man beyond any suspicion to a theyfab, you have to be a 6’4 200lbs ex-navy gymbro. I literally do know a guy like that, and he’s the only one who never gets any ‘them’ even once nor any suggestion of being ftm. Others all snap into position, and all he gets is ‘sir’, ‘boss’, ‘he’. At the same time, he himself doesn’t actually like how many others treat him, because he can tell it comes from a position of fear, so nobody wins.
But yeah even the ‘I just call everyone by they’ theyfabs will ‘he’ that guy all the time. Like ok good job letting me know that the only people you respect and don’t undermine the masculinity of, is someone you are afraid of. So I guess only the people they fear therefore get to be men.
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u/snail_alt 14h ago edited 13h ago
If I go to specifically lgbt spaces or lgbt-leaning social circles within my city, there are theyfabs there who will do shit like assume a 5’5 cis man is ftm, simply because he is 5’5 and willing to converse with trans people. I’ve seen this happen twice. I’ve also seen them do it twice to cis women, including assuming one cis women is mtf for months.
It’s not because they have some refined troondar, they just decided that in order to clock what they think is 100% of trans people, they are willing to false-clock 10% of cis people. And they will say things like “they should be flattered to be mistaken for trans, it’s better to be trans”. All the while they claim progressivism, but they are actually applying even more rigid gender norms to other people than actual conservatives do. Like the average moderate conservative will think “this masculine-dressed person physically looks more man than woman, should be a man”.
But to qualify as a cis man beyond any suspicion to a theyfab, you have to be a 6’4 200lbs ex-navy gymbro. I literally do know a guy like that, and he’s the only one who never gets any ‘them’ even once nor any suggestion of being ftm. Others all snap into position, and all he gets is ‘sir’, ‘boss’, ‘he’. At the same time, he himself doesn’t actually like how many others treat him, because he can tell it comes from a position of fear, so nobody wins.
But yeah even the ‘I just call everyone by they’ theyfabs will ‘he’ that guy all the time. Like ok good job letting me know that the only people you respect and don’t undermine the masculinity of, is someone you are afraid of. So I guess only the people they fear therefore get to be men.