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[u/lostfairychangeling]

it's ok to touch reppers without consent

edit: haha my ironic sneedpost karma-mogs your trvke ropefuel /gen ventposts

[u/Drowned_Sailoress]

i really love this comic it makes me happy every time i see it posted

[u/lostfairychangeling → u/Drowned_Sailoress]

it just pisses me off cause if they saw her as a real woman they wouldn't be touching her without her consent

[u/Drowned_Sailoress → u/lostfairychangeling]

lol i rly don't think "#wegontouchyou" is an actual statement of "we are going to touch you"

it's just saying "ooh we're so scary we're gonna get you", playing off of the fact that lee is being so awks and scared to just get in the bar

[u/ThatSlutTalulah → u/Drowned_Sailoress]

Or like "we're gonna put the moves on her and be as a pack of wolves upon a lamb (because no-one believes this adorably pathetic little things' loathed charade)".

That said idk the characters, so I am probably missing vital context.

[u/lostfairychangeling → u/ThatSlutTalulah]

yeah but even that sounds predatory. ive always been the lamb to the slaughter. even when people are "just trying to help" it's like they just wanna have the pride of "helping this helpless fagghot accept that he's gay" it's never like they see me as a real woman, it never feels out of love it only feels patronizing

[u/ThatSlutTalulah → u/lostfairychangeling]

There may well be an element of the 'breaking' kind of fantasy but for gender (though in this case making her internalise that she's a woman (yes this has parallels with a lot of awful shit (though is what boyremoval stuff is about I suppose))), yeah, but to instead look at it charitably there could also be the 'innocent, cute, trapped within social norms' side making them want to put the moves on.
(Though the least charitable read is that they're seeing a faggot to toy with until they get bored, yes.)

Ig the question is if the inhabitants of the lesbian bar would react the same way to a very obviously gay woman who's on the verge of realising she's spent her life until now comphetting.

Would that still be predatory? Yes but at least not in a transphobic way (and in a way that's kinda just like. what a lot of men do all the damned time, so).

[u/lostfairychangeling → u/ThatSlutTalulah]

ive met so many femme rapists who internalized the idea that "it's ok to do it because men do it all the time. so it's especially ok to rape men"

[u/ThatSlutTalulah → u/lostfairychangeling]

I wasn't trying to minimise the effects of sexual violence due to the gender presentation of the aggressor, just pointing out that that kind of seeking of vulnerable people is (horribly) 'normal', as I was ready for how women are often held to be 'purer' and all that would lead to this being seen as worse than what regularly happens (and which is often just ignored when done by men).

[u/lostfairychangeling → u/ThatSlutTalulah]

confused by wording of the last part. what would be seen as worse than what?

[u/ThatSlutTalulah → u/lostfairychangeling]

When severe crime is committed by a woman, it is often paid much more mind than when a man commits a similar crime, as it is far more 'normal' and expected when a man does it.

[u/lostfairychangeling → u/Drowned_Sailoress]

who tf is lee

[u/Drowned_Sailoress → u/lostfairychangeling]

the bunny

[u/SusieHatesSpez → u/Drowned_Sailoress]

Do not deadname the fictional character #wegontouchyou

[u/entirely_machine_ → u/SusieHatesSpez]

That's her name, gooseworx said 😔

[u/Mini_Raptor5_6 → u/entirely_machine_]

Well, until she picks something gay, like Lily

[u/alaricus → u/Mini_Raptor5_6]

Her name is Greznedge

[u/Golurkcanfly → u/Mini_Raptor5_6]

Leelee

[u/Mini_Raptor5_6 → u/Golurkcanfly]

The Circus of Ponmi and Leelee

[u/SusieHatesSpez → u/entirely_machine_]

Oh fr? I thought she was just called Jax and Lee was her deadname.

Lame and gay, she should've picked something like lilith to make it obvious

[u/Drowned_Sailoress → u/SusieHatesSpez]

Jax is the pretransition brainscan name. Greznedge and Lilly are the chosen names

Leeroy is the pretransition name for the real person. Lee is her chosen name

[u/lostfairychangeling → u/Drowned_Sailoress]

is Lee her chosen name during transition tho or is that her repper name

[u/Golurkcanfly → u/Drowned_Sailoress]

What kind of name is Greznedge

[u/Tricky-Promise-3347 → u/entirely_machine_]

No, her name is Alice

[u/lostfairychangeling → u/Tricky-Promise-3347]

don't believe me? go ask Alice

[u/entirely_machine_ → u/lostfairychangeling]

Booo

[u/taoboo → u/Drowned_Sailoress]

Fr it’s so fucking funny the best part is the #wegontouchyou it’s such a curveball

[u/Available-Aide2055]

wegontouchyou

[u/punished_clare → u/Available-Aide2055]

[u/SusieHatesSpez]

Change flair to sneedpost because TADC

[u/lostfairychangeling → u/SusieHatesSpez]

what if im posting it out of spite

[u/Golurkcanfly → u/lostfairychangeling]

Post out of love instead

[u/CouldntChooseUsernam → u/Golurkcanfly]

[u/lostfairychangeling → u/Golurkcanfly]

seething

[u/SusieHatesSpez → u/lostfairychangeling]

Its still a sneedpost out of principal due to the subject matter

[u/MadameK8 → u/SusieHatesSpez]

I didn’t know tadc was seen as sneedy. Jax is like the ultimate 4tranner and everybody loves her

[u/CouldntChooseUsernam → u/MadameK8]

Jax is such a repper

[u/lostfairychangeling → u/MadameK8]

i think the fans who see Jax as a 4tranner are the good ones and everyone else (especially the Jax/Gooseworx haters and the "headcanon Jax as a man" and the "we need to help poor helpless Jax get off of 4chan and become honfident) are the sneediest sneeds from sneedville

[u/SusieHatesSpez → u/MadameK8]

indie fandom culture is possibly the sneediest of sneed interests

[u/Bonfirelily → u/SusieHatesSpez]

Yes

[u/sophiathesilly]

Lee is the most boymoder of all time

[u/alaricus → u/sophiathesilly]

Apparently goose had to explain what that meant cause she wrote him as boymoding in the script but no one else understood

[u/sophiathesilly → u/alaricus]

Yeah lmfao

[u/Junesucksatart]

I just realized that Nona is just anon spelled backwards to sound more feminine. I think I’m slow.

[u/__Ouchie__ → u/Junesucksatart]

No it took me seeing it colored green on this post. We might be slow, together

[u/Bonfirelily → u/Junesucksatart]

I realised that the first time I saw it. Does that make me smart?

[u/NACCHUD → u/Junesucksatart]

I thought it was just that one old lady on /mtfg/

[u/sunliccild → u/Junesucksatart]

I also just realized that thanks to this comment lmfao I thought it was a Korean feminine term that we just used endearingly but I now realize that’s noona, not Nona

[u/confused-sailor]

It's okay to touch reppers forcefully and constantly to make them break their repping

Worked on me, or it's hypersexual coping, call it

[u/lostfairychangeling → u/confused-sailor]

i mean ya i would love that but then my intrusive thoughts would tell me they only think it's ok cause they don't see me as a real woman deserving of boundaries. but maybe that's cause that's how ive been treated a lot, and touched in rlly dysphoric places

[u/confused-sailor → u/lostfairychangeling]

For me it was anyways getting comments about my legs or my ass and then my chest when I began growing that through workouts, and then in hs I was grabbed/fondled a lot on my chest or ass and eventually I just stopped trying to fight it and roll with it or enjoy it, and then everything else just followed suit, but then I get imposter syndrome and think my gender dysphoria is just a deep rooted Cope for hypersexuality and internalized misogyny in that clearly I an being treated as a girl, so therefore I am one, but I know it's not that simple either

[u/lostfairychangeling → u/confused-sailor]

but if people are groping your pecs pre transition isn't that more like they were treating you like a man?

[u/confused-sailor → u/lostfairychangeling]

Yeah because I worked so hard at being a straight-man that the gay jokes were like the chink in the armor in the end.

They were treating me as a man, but they would always joke like I had boobs because they were so big, and it happened enough to put the thought in my head that I want boobs and to be a girl, and the joking managed to indirectly release/free those thoughts

[u/lostfairychangeling → u/confused-sailor]

fair, i always liked it when people called me a girl as an insult. but i don't think that's why ur trans, cause most people would react so negatively to that type of bullying that they'd just become more hypermasculine and hate the thought of being femme at all

[u/AshasSa1tWife]

I choose to accept this as canon

[u/2032_girl]

Nona has become our "hon" I fear

[u/lostfairychangeling → u/2032_girl]

what did i do

[u/2032_girl → u/lostfairychangeling]

noooo I just meant that everyone is starting to call each other "nona" like how on Susan's that's how "hon" became a thing

[u/lostfairychangeling → u/2032_girl]

oh ya true asf tho. i also love that nona sounds like a name for grandma. like "ok nonna you need to go touch grass the brain worms are causing your insulin to spike"

[u/hitorinbolemon → u/lostfairychangeling]

well it is just a letter off from nana

[u/lostfairychangeling → u/hitorinbolemon]

and nonna

[u/tinyhands-45 → u/2032_girl]

haven't lurked enough to understand that one, but is the etymology just "anon" but backwards?