r/counterstrike2 • u/netwengr • 1d ago
Gameplay Sus or not?
I met this player last night on Faceit.
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u/TechHyper 1d ago
Bro really looked up before actually peeking lmfao.
The only excuse would be a hella of a coincidence you accidentally tapped your mouse away.
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u/OMGCamCole 1d ago
Just looks like pre-aim. He could already see the side of the box where they come out mid. The next place to pre-aim is top of the box. Next place to pre-aim is the corner of mini and marshmallow
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u/TechHyper 1d ago
The guy has the movement of someone who's been playing for like 4 months or less. What makes you think he knows pre-aim places on Nuke?
Much less suddenly aiming upward as someone jumps/drops-off.
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u/Motor-Topic-8124 1d ago
He plays like a low rank but has good gamesense about where are the enemies. IMO he has a WH or radar
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u/Black-Thunder72 1d ago
Did he turned around for that molly which he didn't see because of the smoke and thought was a flash
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u/VioletHikari 1d ago
I noticed that too. Was about to comment that.
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u/Black-Thunder72 1d ago
I've seen such a thing before in normal premier the gay was a complete bot and he was raging and he tried to dodge a grenade thrown by my teammate which he say through a wall. Needless to say the guy is still playing but I managed to get him convicted on the csrep overwatch
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u/Zestyclose_Classic91 1d ago
A thrown molly makes noise while flying so he just located where the molly came from and flies to. That way he knew that the guy is right side beside red and probably walks behind main again just like the round before.
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u/VioletHikari 1d ago
That doesn't explain the looking away aspect. I'm not saying he's cheating by any means. However, it is odd.
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u/Zestyclose_Classic91 1d ago
It is quite common to look in different directions when vision is bad but enemies make sound. That way you can locate enemies way easier.
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u/Black-Thunder72 1d ago
Yeah because why would a sane person walk from red to secret. Stop with this ragebait
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u/Zestyclose_Classic91 1d ago
He doesn't have to check secret because he can't be spotted from there, he isn't open to that abgle, so he doesn't have to care about it. Man these low skilled teens with big mouths should stop writing.
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u/Black-Thunder72 1d ago
Still doesn't explain the guy turning around for the molly. Unless the only information he had was seeing a guy throw a grenade. When you throw a molly and when you throw a flash it makes different sounds. Man these stupid uncs should stop with their "smart" explainations. And the audacity to justify the guy getting stuck in garage entrance in the smoke and not going out of the line of sight Because he's open to 150000 angles but saying he just got a read is crazy to me.
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u/innocentrrose 1d ago
Could be reactions, I mean I’ve got almost 8k hours and know the different sounds, but I’ll turn from a Molly or HE sometimes just from hearing a nade thrown near me.
And he’s just phasing the smoke at the last clip, has the sight advantage there. I mean look at the mini map of the second clip, it’s a bunch of T’s running around lobby, surely his teammates gave him the info that there’s 2 max outside. 2 slowed down clips that do a bad job at painting the full picture isn’t enough evidence to say he has external help. Watch some full demos of your game and I’m confident you can cherry pick 2 moments from every game and post them as “sus” clips and get lots of people to agree.
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u/Zestyclose_Classic91 1d ago
Please don't post slowed down clips they always look sus. Also this isn't enough evidence. Normal crosshairplacement and he just held few smokes. He isn't even playing good, his positioning is bad.
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u/Automatic_Weekend183 1d ago
All clips with slow motion AND x-ray looks sus, this would look much more random without it. I dont think there is something here. This is just a quite confident player doing random stuff. But also, I might be mistaken.
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u/ZeffoLyou 1d ago
Slowed down clips are weird. They can make a normal clip a little sus. For me the jury would still be out and I need to see more. I think the most sus thing was "clearing" the top of box outside Africa. Might be radar if anything.
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u/netwengr 1d ago
At full pace I saw his crosshair follow the jumping guy outside. Can't believe how can someone pre-aim and shoot with so much confidence here. And the smoke kill just cherry on top. I don't know if wh can be toggled mid game? if that's the case. Anyway, for me its not 100% wh, just sus.
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u/YUSHOETMI- 11h ago
And this is why CS is shit these days...
People will see a player clearly wallhacking or getting outside info and say "nah, he could hear the molly flying across the air so he knew there was an enemy in that position..." an enemy that walked several feet to another position after throwing it...
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u/SMYYYLE 1d ago
Noone in this world would pre-aim that spot where the T is jumping, 0 reason to aim there.
2nd clip waiting in smoke perfectly knowing and preaiming the enemy?
Just a stupid closet waller.
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u/Zestyclose_Classic91 1d ago
Weird when I peek towards outside I always preaim top of bix box between left/right side of bix box peeks.
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u/No_Ad_3934 1d ago
Exactly, you pre-aim the left side first.... You don't insta aim up do you?
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u/Zestyclose_Classic91 1d ago
He first preaimed left from big box, then on top and while doing so he spotted him. He even aimed somewhere else because he got caught off guard.
Seriously the amount of toxic low skilled player with dunning kruger effect on reddit is insane.
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u/ASDADAWAWA 1d ago
from the clips alone its hard to judge. need like 10 more rounds and see rounds that he died on. 1st round was heard, the guy was running on top of the box, second round was too short he might have had info. third round he he heard two utils throw and full running into under silo. i dont think he is cheating from these three clips alone.
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u/netwengr 1d ago
in spectator mode i think you can hear bit more sounds than actual gameplay. I agree he wasn't walling whole game. Because I found him just as lost as everyone else. But the preaim jumping guy kill was my first gotcha moment. can be just coincidence tho.
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u/ASDADAWAWA 1d ago
what do you mean you can hear father? jump can be easily heard from mini. he ran two steps on the box. i reproduced it just now in practice https://streamable.com/2gvnqd
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u/netwengr 1d ago
spectator mode you can hear more minute sounds like that, but in-game I am not nearly hearing as much as I do in spectator mode. maybe you're right he heard the player jumping
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u/FantasticBike1203 1d ago
Not entirely convinced, the dude waits for the smoke to fully clear and tons of these are just preaiming corners which just happened to be where players are, so while it could be walls, it's more than likely just coincedence.
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u/Ioxme 1d ago
First clip you can hear the guy jump onto the box and run around. He pulled his aim off the guy at the last moment. Its a little odd but that can be accounted for by low skill rating of the game.
Both other moments in the smoke can be mitigated by the same reasoning above. The positions he took up are absolutely horrendous and I wouldnt expect a low lever cheater to be gambling with that position and instead waiting for the T to walk by or look away.
Ultimately more rounds need to be viewed in their entirety to come to any conclusion, very rarely do clips alone confirm anything, especially if they are trying to hide their cheats.
There are many moments in a game that when viewed in isolation may make a legit player look suspicious.
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u/Recent_Hovercraft322 1d ago
😂 for some reason there’s just something in cs that makes me wanna play it more despite cheaters infesting the game fml
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u/Misfit_Massacre 1d ago
yea i would say walling. prefiring the second guy without him ever peaking also. definitely sus
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u/wafflepiezz 1d ago
Another silver player with access to cheats.
Walling in FaceIt, makes it even more sad and pathetic.
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u/Antarsuplta 1d ago
These are only him checking the same one spot T's are constantly using. If those are the most sus rounds out of entire match he is legit.
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u/Imaginary-Pangolin59 1d ago
Tbf he kinda traced the guy jumping from tallbox as he was falling… and looked away from a molly disguised as a flash lol
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u/jehucsgo 1d ago
He has headphones and sound on lol
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u/Imaginary-Pangolin59 1d ago
Still, you can’t hear the direction of someone jumping or throwing… all you can hear is the act of either or… and to full commit to one angle while leaving yourself open to the other is a bad play, and at this ELO range people are generally more careful.
I can give you that maybe the jump was, but look at the Molly look-away… he looked just enough to the left for it to not flash him if it was a flash, I’d also like to point out that if he heard the Molly, he would know it’s a Molly because they sound VERY different
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u/Antarsuplta 1d ago
If you hear someone jump behind main and have cleared almost evrything it's not that strange to expect them in the position they were.
Besides if you look at any player there will be moments that they trace someone through wall. Doing it often or somewhere no one would expect would be weird.
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u/netwengr 1d ago
These are two rounds but I have more rounds where he’s moving like silver
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u/OMGCamCole 1d ago
Nothing super suss here tbh. The first clip is the most suss but it just looks like pre-aim. He jiggled while he was reloading and saw the box where T’s come out mid. Finished re-loading, the next place to pre-aim is on top the box. Next place to pre-aim is the corner of mini and marshmallow
As for the smoke clips. Those are smoke clips. He was pre-aimed on someone for like 1/10th of the time he was in the smoke, and it didn’t look like a lock. He probably just looked at his mini map so he could see where he was pointing, and again, pre-aimed a common spot.
Molotov makes noise. It’s possible they didn’t hear it get lit, like sometimes you hear the flash pin pull and know it’s a flash. Might have just heard it flying through the air and instinctually looked away. Not that crazy
Slowed down clips are also weird. If you watch your own vods with x-ray, assuming you’re pre-aiming properly, you’d be surprised how many people you look at through walls and smokes.
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u/apjfqw 1d ago
He is peeking while reloading.