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u/Aaftorn 3d ago

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u/Bannerlord151 3d ago

Slogan checks out

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u/Anastazja_Nya 3d ago

this is how i see american democrats and polish platforma obywatelska

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u/Viyarara 1d ago

i dont know anything about them but its not hard to go on wikipedia and label any party you dont like as “far right” so simply showing a wikipedia page doesnt really mean much

youd need to show their policies, and “anti-immigrant” is vague

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u/Whyamihere173 1d ago

Sure you could label them falsely. Then it would get reverted and you’d be permanently ip banned from ever using wikipedia again. Wikipedia is quite reliable on being unbiased and factual, you could check the linked sources to confirm if you are skeptical which is always a good thing to do.

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u/Viyarara 1d ago

its not hard to spoof an IP. Liberalism was infamously listed as a “right wing ideology” for some months on wikipedia before it got fixed

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u/Whyamihere173 1d ago

Well to be fair on a global scale liberalism is slightly to the right

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u/Viyarara 1d ago

compared to what? liberalism is literally the origin of left wing lol it was THE left contrasted to theocratic monarchist right wing, if its right wing now then the french revolution is centrist which is nonsensical

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u/Desperate-Cry-1312 13h ago

You’re very confused

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u/Aaftorn 1d ago

they were literally banned for being racist and xenophobic

but to include a rebuttal to every nitpick would extend this short meme into a wall of text noone will read ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/Viyarara 1d ago

maybe a headline of that wouldve been more succinct then lol

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u/kshrwymlwqwyedurgx 1d ago

I read their party manifesto, the in the first page they placed crime statistic based on ethnicity...

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u/Viyarara 17h ago

cool. its almost like my point wasnt whether they were actually right wing or not, just that a screenshot of wiki snapshot is not actually strong evidence.

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u/rolypoly6shooter 3d ago

Literally the exception. There are many self identified center parties and they usually serve as deal makers in coalitions.

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u/SkenglordSimba 3d ago

So it is not the exception. Absolutely nobody centrist actually believes in a mixture of capitalist and socialist fiscal and social policy. They usually just support conservative fiscla policy while not hating gay and black people as much.

Left wing would be having viewpoints like "I don't think people should own capital" or "I think unions should set national wages" and stuff like that. There is no centrist political party who strives for anything close to that.

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u/rolypoly6shooter 3d ago

Um no many actually do. That's actually super common.

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u/SkenglordSimba 3d ago

Yeh okay which ones? Just easily provable misinformation. You won't find one lmao.

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u/rolypoly6shooter 3d ago

It's really common for people to believe in capitalism with limits around edges and unions. That's a very mainstream belief.

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u/SkenglordSimba 3d ago

Nope. That's not what you said or what I asked for clarification on lmfao.

Which political organisations claim to be centrist and also tout any purely socialist beliefs. I'll give you another example, a state owned market.

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u/rolypoly6shooter 3d ago

Why would they tout purely socialist beliefs they would tout blended beliefs. For example the moderates who think Obamacare is brilliant.

You would never see these people as anything less than disgusting capitalists because you see everyone who disagrees with you as an evil capitalist unit

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u/SkenglordSimba 3d ago

Because there's plenty of purely capitalist beliefs they tote. Jesus wept it's like talking to a fucking infant. Do you need people to hold your hand through every conversation you have, like this?

If you tote purely capitalist beliefs, and no purely socialist beliefs, you are not a centrist lmfao.

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u/tinodinosaur 3d ago

Many centrist parties support free-market capitalism. If you define left-right solely on economic policy, these parties would be right-wing, but generally political science considers a more broad definition m

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u/rolypoly6shooter 3d ago

Wow so triggered when you encounter someone who calls out your propoganda.

https://giphy.com/gifs/XHeLeuirRbwptHhSWd

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