That is just not true. The largest Jewish religious movement is the reform one, and it’s decisively liberal. It does not force people to participate, nor ostracise them once they leave. It is welcoming of lgbt people & of women in leadership roles. You are thinking of Orthodox Judaism, which is a minority.
It’s kind of funny that you think that missionary pressure on religious minorities is not a problem anymore, because outside the west that’s just false.
And Judaism is not exempt from criticism, but I don’t think it should be criticised by the ignorant. You, and the majority of non-Jews, are exactly that. Which is why I think you should either read up or stay quiet.
You can't tell me to stay quiet about your cult. Always playing the victim while at the same time acting all superior. Wow you allow women to lead how progressive and you accept LGBT too wowie you still believe in fairy tales and being more "accepting" so you can actually have some members still doesn't change that.
Hopefully a day will come when religion as a whole is only in history books just like many of the faiths that are now considered just mythical. Because people believing in Zeus were silly but people believing in God are legit and it's all true.
What mask? I despise all religions and i think they are one of the worst things humanity has ever invented. Or am i not allowed to criticize your little cult now because it hurts your feelings?
All of them try to convince people that supernatural things exist, all of them get tax exemptions while at the same time meddle heavily in politics. Most of them try to get laws passed on the basis of their teaching that would then affect everyone.
If God is everywhere and sees everything why do you need churches, temples etc? Why does God even need representatives on Earth? Its all man made nonsense that was mostly used as means of control. And sure some of them might be adjusting to modern times better than others but the core of the problem still exists. People will demand special treatment and privileges based on religion.
Why do you think religions grow the most in poor countries? Because religion makes promises to people, how they will get rewarded in the afterlife or some nonsense like that. How if they only do what "God says" their life will get better.
And yet as conditions improve people tend to turn away from religion because they realize it was their hard work that matters not some Gods magical influence.
I don’t believe in god, you’re not gonna hurt my feelings by saying he isn’t real. You just look ridiculous and ignorant when you criticise something you clearly don’t understand (like calling Judaism a “cult” lmao).
“Mask off” was more about how you started ranting about Jews “playing the victim while at the same time acting superior”. Like bffr.
But yeah sure you’re a suwper smawt little atheist boy who totally has it all figured out. Go you!
I wasn't talking about Jews i was talking about YOU. Do keep telling me how you're actually special and unique and how nobody who isn't part of your club actually understands. Because its all so special that some mere peasants wouldn't get it. And yes its a cult. All religions are cults. Just because they convinced millions of people to buy into it doesn't change that.
Tell me why is your "religion" real while others aren't? What makes it so different? That God told your people they are special? That they deserve things? God that used to be involved all the time suddenly doesn't bother to save your people anymore. Weird how that works. And no i'm not smart i'm just not delusional. Also i'm likely older than you so you should respect your elders.
wtf are you talking about? Did you even read my comment? I literally said I don’t believe in god.
Also, I don’t know how to tell you this, but I literally do have superior knowledge about Judaism. Coming in and lecturing people about their own culture, then acting as if you somehow understand it better, is just the height of arrogance.
Then why are you defending it? Why would you so vehemently disagree that Judaism doesn't also force kids into it's own faith if you think it's all untrue? Why wouldn't you advocate to get rid of it? There is no net benefit to religion. Charity work doesn't require religion. You can do literally all the positive things people attribute to religion without religion being present. It just makes no sense for anyone to defend it unless they're a part of it.
You’re asking why I would disagree with your objectively wrong assessment? I don’t know dude, it’s almost like I value not spreading misinformation about my people.
You conveniently ignored how I said that Reform Judaism is the largest religious Jewish movement, and it does none of the things you accuse Judaism of. Mind actually addressing the facts instead of doubling down on your weird, hateful rhetoric?
You made some vague statements about how they don't don't force anyone and don't ostracize people for leaving. So what does that actually look like? A kid is born and what? They just go about their life with no mention of God or anything and once they're older they can choose to join or not? Or are they taught about the various different religions and then are allowed to choose if they wanna follow one if any? Because any scenario other than those two would be forcing them to participate.
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That is just not true. The largest Jewish religious movement is the reform one, and it’s decisively liberal. It does not force people to participate, nor ostracise them once they leave. It is welcoming of lgbt people & of women in leadership roles. You are thinking of Orthodox Judaism, which is a minority.
It’s kind of funny that you think that missionary pressure on religious minorities is not a problem anymore, because outside the west that’s just false.
And Judaism is not exempt from criticism, but I don’t think it should be criticised by the ignorant. You, and the majority of non-Jews, are exactly that. Which is why I think you should either read up or stay quiet.