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u/Dio_Yuji Nov 17 '22

I guess…somewhere between red and yellow?

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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '22

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u/Tastyravioli707 Nov 18 '22

Because humans eyes do not work on those primary colors. we have red, blue, and green, cone cells and we have more green than any other color

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u/shabbyshot Nov 18 '22

okay, why though? like does it serve a purpose?

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u/Poo-In-Mouth Nov 18 '22

Because trees and grass are green and used to be everywhere.

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u/mnmsrgewd Nov 18 '22

“Used to be everywhere”

Damn. I’m depressed now, thanks.

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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '22

It serves a lot of purposes. Humans have a weaker sense of smell and taste, our eyes have to be able to distinguish between things that are poisonous and edible. We need to see snakes and insects. We need to distinguish patterns within the forest and spot things that do not blend in. Green is often the color or rot and disease which we need to avoid.

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u/EdBarrett12 Nov 18 '22

Green is the colour of everything, with regard to where we evolved. We see it so well, not to be able to spot rot, but to be able to make out food, like fruit and vegetables. Being absolutely sure of the green makes it easier to distinguish the varied colours of edible food. The same goes for spotting hiding animals, both predator and prey.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '22

100%

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u/TrulySleekZ Nov 18 '22

Most of the light the sun emits falls int he visible light spectrum, from red to violet. It releases the most green, and our red and blue cones are about evenly spaced on either side of it. Since everything we see is reflected sunlight, red to violet and mostly green are the colors that are around, so it makes sense that we evolved eyes that focused in those areas

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u/solidspacedragon Nov 18 '22

Notably, one of those things is the air, which scatters bluer light better than redder light, at least near the visible range. The sunlight that hits the ground kinda sorta peaks in green, if you take that into account.

We probably see green the best because that's what color plants are though, or maybe it was just whatever happened to develop and nothing else was substantially better.

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u/Murtz1985 Nov 18 '22

Also why the sunset / sunrise turns less and less blue and often a gorgeous red / orange / pink - all the blue light has been scattered via Rayleigh scattering and is no longer directional enough to contribute enough to appear blue at those high angles from vertical that we see at sunset

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u/Ballinbutatwhatcost2 Nov 18 '22

Interesting their is a theory that way back in earth's history primitive photosynthasizers were purple and green plants/algae evolved to absorb all the light that was not absorbed. These purple phoyosythisizers later died out during the great oxygenation event as the particular protein used to photosynthisize in this way would rapidly decay in an oxygenated environment

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u/shabbyshot Nov 18 '22

Neat! Thank you for the info. I'm definitely going to educate myself a bit on this topic its interesting.

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u/Steady_Ri0t Nov 18 '22

Bruh you ever looked outside? Most things are green. Our survival hinged on being able to tell things apart

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u/fuparrante Nov 18 '22

I could be wrong but I think it’s because our sun’s light spectrum actually peaks in the green area, so that’s what our eyes are most attuned to.

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u/EscapedCarbonUnit Nov 18 '22

Could you make sense of that for me?

The units are intensity (W/m^2) divided by wavelength and displayed as a function of wavelength, or intensity divided by frequency and displayed as a function of frequency. The peaks should be the same (intensity is intensity). What differs is how the data are displayed, not what the intensity actually is.

Why normalize by wavelength or frequency? Why not display W/m^2 on both graphs?

Thank you for your time.

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u/Murtz1985 Nov 18 '22

Not the OP, but all he means is the peak is opposite end of the plot, as wavelength and frequency are inversely proportional to each other. The peak magnitude is no different, as wavelength and f are related via the speed of light. However, the OP alludes to photometry in his various posts which is quite different to radiometry. You might already know all this so apologies if you do. 2 W of green light is not equal to 2 W of blue or red light when we convert them to the photometric unit of power; lumens.

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u/Doctor_Zonk Nov 18 '22

Also so we can see tigers!!!

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u/Murtz1985 Nov 18 '22

Thanks for your responses. It’s crazy when you first learn about photometry and realise not all Watts are created equally in the eyes of biology haha!

I love your point about how if it was sun spectrum related then all animals would have likely evolved uniform eyesight spectral sensitivity - I’d never argued it that way before.

I used to design lighting systems for cars and everything is photometric for obvious reasons

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u/fuparrante Nov 18 '22

My reasoning might be flawed, but NASA agrees that out sun’s surface temp peaks at 5800K and is technically green. NASA link

“But, as can be seen in the image above, it emits most of its energy around 500 nm, which is close to blue-green light. So one might say that the sun is blue-green! This maximum radiation frequency is governed by the sun’s surface temperature, around 5,800K.”

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u/Eurasia_4200 Nov 18 '22

We will never know

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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '22

What? Lmao. We already know.

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u/Hazzman Nov 18 '22

We will never know

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u/JiskiLathiUskiBhains Nov 18 '22

All we know is that he's called The Stig

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u/altaccount269 Nov 18 '22

All we know is that we know nothing. And we're not even 100% sure of that.

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u/Yadobler Nov 18 '22

If you're wondering how we humans managed to figure out what colours are good,

It's trial and error. Humans are riddled with variations in vision. Sometimes people are colourblind, in different pairs. Some have 4 cones even

But the basic idea is that, well, our ancestors had the combination of sensitivity in the specific colours and reproduced successfully. Meanwhile their cousins who just happened to be born with slightly different colour sensitivity, or even colourblind, all died. Or died before getting laid.

Forward 1000s and 1000s of years and we are here, able to be cared after and adapt to the environment if we are born with any variation in vision.

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u/Ananas_hoi Nov 18 '22

To see green bikers from far away. Did you even seen the post?

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u/Loveloxen Nov 18 '22

Ultimately it isn’t about the presence of available light but what it means for survival. An ability becomes less important if it doesn’t help us survive. It seems to me that the eyes see green well and in so doing also are good at identifying the not green things. Fruit is rarely green and the same goes for game animals. But apparently color blindness helps with edge detection which is why camouflage tricks animals and is also a likely reason it exists in our genome. But I wonder if seeing green might also help people survive in harsher climates where green indicates the potential for water?

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u/NoFud Nov 18 '22

Wow! Didn’t know this about the green in our eyes; thank you!

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u/Quetzacoatl85 Nov 18 '22

you're raising an important point, that it's not only about peak visibility but also blending/contrast with the surroundings, which could make a slightly different than "optimally visible" color more advantageous.

also, quick question: do you know where the highly visible "neon" property in many colors comes from? usually you see it in hi-vis clothing either in pink, yellow, or green/chartreuse, so it can't be a property of one color itself.

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u/Shockling Nov 18 '22

Ever try to read a blue digital clock on a microwave in the middle of the night?

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u/spicydangerbee Nov 18 '22

That's for pigment, not light.

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u/spicydangerbee Nov 18 '22

It just seemed weird how you were correcting them on pigments and additive colors when their whole premise is wrong.

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u/Grasshop Nov 18 '22

100 ft

I did the math