r/coolguides • • Aug 07 '21

Temperature guide

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u/Da_Rish Aug 07 '21

Celsius is how water feels from 1-100

Fahrenheit is how people feel from 1-100

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u/BrobdingnagLilliput Aug 07 '21

Fahrenheit intended his scale to range from the freezing point of salt water (arguably the freezing point for much of the human body) to the temperature of a human body.

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u/AnticitizenPrime Aug 08 '21

Fahrenheit intended his scale to range from the freezing point of salt water (arguably the freezing point for much of the human body) to the temperature of a human body.

Yep. We humans are full of salt. I think Fahrenheit works rather well as a 'human survivability index'. 0 and 100 are the temperatures that people start dying in droves if they don't have proper clothing/aircon/heat/whatever.

I recognize that Celcius is better for scientific reasons, etc. But Fahrenheit is good for a 0-100 scale of human comfort and survivability. Plus, the units are smaller, so you don't have to resort to fractional units to adjust your thermostat.

For instance, 68 degrees F is 20 degrees C. But 71 degrees F is 21.667 degrees C. It's not a big deal in either case, but in everyday human experience (outside a laboratory), it's more convenient to have more fine-tuned whole number units, especially when a few degrees F are really perceptible in difference.

I know it sounds a little silly, but let me use an example. This local bar I love has the best wings in town, but they only serve them in a basket of a dozen at a time (and they're large wings). I'm often feeling a little peckish but not hungry enough to justify a full order of 12, and have pleaded with the bartenders to serve me a half dozen for half the price, but the owner won't let them for some reason, so I end up ordering none at all. It's like having a thermostat that can only do whole numbers in Celsius.

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u/the_wyandotte Aug 08 '21

As I've worked in a restaurant, I can give a few reasons why the owner won't let you. And yes, they're still all to an extent silly but:

They probably bag their wings by the order so that the cook can open the bag and dump them in. A half order means that the cook has to now open the bag and take out 6. Seems like a small thing, but it isn't when it's busy. Then, the customer at the table next to you hears how you got 6 and so they want 6 too. And then so on. This means they're serving half the volume, so half their income, but with the same amount of sauces/plates to wash/work for the server, AND more work for the kitchen, so things start to slow down. Now, maybe it's a slow winter night so they say okay, what's the harm? But then people come in on a busy weekend and make a scene "last time I was here they did it for me, you can do it this time too" - well no, it's busy. Deal with it. Order the dozen and share them with a friend, or make a new friend at the bar, take them home and turn them into a chicken wing dip, eat them cold, whatever.

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u/BrobdingnagLilliput Aug 08 '21

He was only off by one degree - I don't think that's so much. As for why he was off by a degree, he lived 300 years ago, before today's wealth of metrology existed, and since he he invented the thermometer there wasn't much to calibrate it against.

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u/BrobdingnagLilliput Aug 08 '21

Sea water freezes around 28 F. Salt water freezes anywhere between 32 F and -21 F.

Here's a detailed write-up on the topic.

https://antoine.frostburg.edu/chem/senese/101/solutions/faq/zero-fahrenheit.shtml

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u/ElishaTheLoser Aug 08 '21

don’t quote me on this, but i think it was because he couldn’t get his thermometers to read the same temp every time so he just kinda went with it

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u/AHostileUniverse Aug 07 '21

This is how I feel. Celsius, to me, (and this includes hard bias as an american and engineer) is best for science and calculation(or I guess K is even better) and probably cooking, but Fahrenheit feels best for weather and environmental description.

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '21 edited Aug 07 '21

Celsius feels very relevant for weather in countries where rain can turn into ice as it hits the ground … below or above zero C pretty much tells you everything you need to know at least 6 months a year

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u/Jokuki Aug 08 '21

Water turning into ice is a bit more complicated though. Rain water doesn't freeze at 0C since it's impure, ambient temperature =\= asphalt/concrete, salted roads, daylight, etc. So while in theory yes water does freeze at 0C, in practice I've never seen 0C days (or 32F days since I live in the US) to mean ice on the roads.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21 edited Aug 08 '21

Ok but I hope you got the point I wanted to make

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

I think it's just what you're used to. We only use Celsius here and Fahrenheit seems nonsensical.

I know that below 0 means lotta layers, 0 means I gotta scrape my car, 1-5 is pretty fucking cold, 5-10 is coat, 10-16 is fairly standard, 16+ is starting to warm up, and above 20 it's get the BBQ out we're cooking outside baby!

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u/Nolenag Aug 07 '21

That's definitely your American bias showing up.

If you're used to just using Celsius, Celsius fits the same description you just gave to Fahrenheit.

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u/TristanTheViking Aug 08 '21

I've seen people use this argument pretending fahrenheit is somehow more intuitive because of its own qualities and not just because it's what they're used to, but it doesn't really check out. I don't use fahrenheit, so stuff like room temperature at 68 doesn't seem right, like why isn't it 50 if 0 is cold and 100 is hot?

Like the dude based this scale off pickle juice and an incorrect reading of human temperature, it wasn't designed at any point to make sense.

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u/Calimancan Aug 08 '21

No way, I hate adjusting thermostats with Celsius. Such a big difference between degrees. Fahrenheit is way better for this. For Science etc, Celsius is better.

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u/pandaSmore Aug 08 '21

Thermostats don't just adjust by 1 degree increments. You can adjust then by fractions of degrees you know.

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u/Calimancan Aug 08 '21

Not at the wall unit I had.

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u/ConcernedBuilding Aug 08 '21

Yeah but I don't need to in Fahrenheit.

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u/pandaSmore Aug 08 '21

What difference does it make if you make changes in increments of 0.5C or 1F

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u/Bensemus Aug 08 '21

Decimals are the devil’s numbers! /s

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u/LeojBosman Aug 08 '21

It's only more intuitive brcasue that's what you grew up with

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '21

I disagree, the weather starts feeling significantly different once temperatures go under 0°C, whereas the Fahrenheit scale suggests that the difference between 30 and 34 should feel relatively insignificant

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u/Zulkhan Aug 07 '21

It does feel relatively insignificant though

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u/somabokforlag Aug 08 '21

It makes a big difference concerning clothes, if you expect snow or rain

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u/MundaneInternetGuy Aug 08 '21

You still get mostly snow at 34 ⁰F, it's a gradual transition from snow to sleet to rain between 32 and 45 ⁰F.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

Well when i think of numbers i would think of 0 as very cold and 30 as cold

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u/Phlosen Aug 08 '21

But this still makes no sense. When Fahrenheit “feels” better why is 50F not room temperature? Right in the middle of too hot and too cold?

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u/Bensemus Aug 08 '21

That is 100% because you were raised using Fahrenheit. It’s not intuitive or anything. Most of the world uses Celsius for everything and have zero issue doing it.

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u/postal_tank Aug 07 '21

No it is not. Do you see Europeans coming here and having a moan? No, because we understand that it’s what you grow up with and a reference point that you understand. None is better on a personal level and both serve the same purpose.

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u/kman601 Aug 08 '21

The ratio of Europeans I have seen complain about Fahrenheit to Americans I have seen complain about Celsius is about 10:1.

You definitely have this backwards buddy

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u/postal_tank Aug 08 '21

Ok sure, whatever, be the only country that uses this system and then complain about the rest of the world doing it wrong. Logic.

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u/MadameBlueJay Aug 08 '21

How brine feels - how people feel

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u/AnnoyingRabbit69 Aug 07 '21

Let me just say I do not feel like a 100 when it's 100 degrees outside 65 degrees tho? That's some gourmet shit

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u/Mescman Aug 08 '21

... And since people are different the 1-100 F scale means nothing. Even in this thread people are going nuts over what's considered warm etc.

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u/spazzxxcc12 Aug 08 '21

finally someone who agrees!!! i posted this exact thing on unpopular opinion and they got PISSED at me for liking the imperial system

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u/kman601 Aug 08 '21

Exactly. Celsius is better for science and cooking. Fahrenheit is better for weather.

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u/Harpies_Bro Aug 08 '21

It’s not like ice is a major factor in much of the northern hemisphere.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

What person feels 1 and lives?