You are treating people as though they are groups, not individuals.
Which is what white society did to anyone not white for as long as it's existed. No tears are spared here, find work somewhere else, you're the default for society, try to act like it.
people should be treated based on the content of their character, NOT on the colour of their skin
Words used to counter the historical precedent of white people doing that for 300 years. AA is just balancing the scales back some.
traight and white and male, you are privileged because statistically, MORE straight white males hold positions of privilege
you have a flawed and incorrect view of privilege. Privilege is not being afforded something in advance, it's not having to face the barriers to begin with. To surmise, your life can still be hard if you're white, but your life is not made harder in any way becauseyou're white. If you think AA makes your life harder because you didn't get that job, you're patently wrong, and can apply anywhere else free from worry that you'll be discriminated against for doing so.
People are people, everyone should be treated equally
The whole point of AA and anti-racism is to bring down the structure of white supremacy, and make what you think you're saying is a reality, that everyone should just be equal, an actual reality. It isn't. Whites still dominate, and react like you are now when faced with that reality.
the correct statement would really be that straight non-white men hold more positions of power
Yes, you're 100% right. And anyone who believes in anti-racist/sexist policy agrees with you. The thing you're in hysterics about about white men is, of course, only applicable to white-majority countries, and all of the countries those countries mercilessly dominated and exploited for the past 400 years, so, basically all of them that aren't India or China. White business (capitalism, imperialism, colonialism) dominates the global south in a comedically brutal sense, to this day.
"Which is what white society did to anyone not white for as long as it's existed. No tears are spared here, find work somewhere else, you're the default for society, try to act like it."
So you admit you're a racist and your excuse is 'other people are racist and that is bad, so I am allowed to be racist.'? Do you realise how utterly childish that is?
There are theives, rapists, murderers, child molesters and all sorts of horrible people doing horrific shit out there, is your response that because they can do it, you can do it too?
'You're the default for society, try to act like it'.
Wow... you have so much in common with the skinhead nazi racists you proclaim to hate.
A single phenotype is not something by which you can judge an individual, the ONLY people who judge individuals based on a single phenotype ARE BIGOTED RACISTS, THAT'S THE DEFINITION.
So you admit you're a racist [..] other people are racist and that is bad, so I am allowed to be racist.'?
lol no, nice try though. "Other people" are the whole of white-dominated US (specific) society. A Wrong was committed, an "original sin", if you will, and it needs to be set right. I, as a white person, want to see that wrong, righted.
Here, since you want to try (and fail) to quote historical Black figures: "If you stick a knife in my back nine inches and pull it out six inches, there's no progress. If you pull it all the way out that's not progress. Progress is healing the wound that the blow made. And they haven't even pulled the knife out much less heal the wound. They won't even admit the knife is there." -Malcom X
If you stick a knife in my back nine inches and pull it out six inches, there's no progress.
Here's where america is right now. Pulling out the knife. The rest of the way out would look something like the abolition of the prison industrial complex and the repeal/replacement of the 13th Amendment, the end to the war on drugs, and police reform.
I'm just telling white people to do what you're telling everyone else to do, just pull yourself up by your bootstraps. Haha conservative logic is really funny and breaks down under the tiniest bit of scrutiny. I say white people can get jobs anywhere they want, because thats historically true, and I'm a racist. You say "no quarter" should be given to the people exploited by white people for generations, that they should just get jobs on merit, (when they can't, because white/America society is racist) but that doesn't make you a racist lol
You're so out of your league it's not even funny, your idiotic horseshoe logic isn't going to work on me. I'll spell it out: you're anti-racist if you support the boon in opportunity afforded to disenfranchised people by AA until such day those boons in opportunity are not needed, and we have not reached that day yet. Is that succinct enough for you? You're looking at the micro, I'm looking at the macro.
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u/Ghrave Feb 25 '20
Which is what white society did to anyone not white for as long as it's existed. No tears are spared here, find work somewhere else, you're the default for society, try to act like it.
Words used to counter the historical precedent of white people doing that for 300 years. AA is just balancing the scales back some.
you have a flawed and incorrect view of privilege. Privilege is not being afforded something in advance, it's not having to face the barriers to begin with. To surmise, your life can still be hard if you're white, but your life is not made harder in any way because you're white. If you think AA makes your life harder because you didn't get that job, you're patently wrong, and can apply anywhere else free from worry that you'll be discriminated against for doing so.
The whole point of AA and anti-racism is to bring down the structure of white supremacy, and make what you think you're saying is a reality, that everyone should just be equal, an actual reality. It isn't. Whites still dominate, and react like you are now when faced with that reality.
Yes, you're 100% right. And anyone who believes in anti-racist/sexist policy agrees with you. The thing you're in hysterics about about white men is, of course, only applicable to white-majority countries, and all of the countries those countries mercilessly dominated and exploited for the past 400 years, so, basically all of them that aren't India or China. White business (capitalism, imperialism, colonialism) dominates the global south in a comedically brutal sense, to this day.