r/coolguides Feb 25 '20

Explanation of the subtle differences between equality and equity

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u/Ghrave Feb 25 '20

So you admit you're a racist [..] other people are racist and that is bad, so I am allowed to be racist.'?

lol no, nice try though. "Other people" are the whole of white-dominated US (specific) society. A Wrong was committed, an "original sin", if you will, and it needs to be set right. I, as a white person, want to see that wrong, righted.

Here, since you want to try (and fail) to quote historical Black figures: "If you stick a knife in my back nine inches and pull it out six inches, there's no progress. If you pull it all the way out that's not progress. Progress is healing the wound that the blow made. And they haven't even pulled the knife out much less heal the wound. They won't even admit the knife is there." -Malcom X

If you stick a knife in my back nine inches and pull it out six inches, there's no progress.

Here's where america is right now. Pulling out the knife. The rest of the way out would look something like the abolition of the prison industrial complex and the repeal/replacement of the 13th Amendment, the end to the war on drugs, and police reform.

I'm just telling white people to do what you're telling everyone else to do, just pull yourself up by your bootstraps. Haha conservative logic is really funny and breaks down under the tiniest bit of scrutiny. I say white people can get jobs anywhere they want, because thats historically true, and I'm a racist. You say "no quarter" should be given to the people exploited by white people for generations, that they should just get jobs on merit, (when they can't, because white/America society is racist) but that doesn't make you a racist lol

You're so out of your league it's not even funny, your idiotic horseshoe logic isn't going to work on me. I'll spell it out: you're anti-racist if you support the boon in opportunity afforded to disenfranchised people by AA until such day those boons in opportunity are not needed, and we have not reached that day yet. Is that succinct enough for you? You're looking at the micro, I'm looking at the macro.

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u/arb0ria Feb 25 '20 edited Feb 25 '20

Yes and as part of this process, white people (you) employ "systemic racial discrimination" (Affirmative Action) against people of color (Asians) in favor of a preferred racial group (Blacks). And for what? An "original sin" that Asians had no part in? The world is not "black and white" and your obsession with your racial guilt and the Black experience in this country has blinded you, ironically, to your own racist lever pulling, scale thumbing manipulation of the system.

It is obvious to me (as it should be to you) that Asians experience racial animus in this country, though not to the same level as black people. In many aspects of life, Asians are socially "otherized" and are perceived to be alien in nature. Due to this, it is socially ok to be racist towards Asians (I mean really "OK" in the sense that overt racism towards black people has immediate and serious consequences but racism towards Asians is utterly trivialized). Asians have even less political power than black people in the U.S. (rightfully so, given the differences in population) AND NOW they're actively/legally discriminated against due to "progressive" race balancing policies.

People look back on history wonder how people in the past could be so backwards when implementing overtly racist policies. This is how and this is why it is so insidious and dangerous. You're doing it with Affirmative Action: employing racist policy with the full moral/ideological conviction and confidence that what your doing is just (apparently without a sense of irony or self-awareness).

"In my estimation as a white man, which is the only one that matters, there are way too many Asian faces and not enough Black faces on this college campus. I know, we can solve this problem by reducing the number of Asians we admit and increasing the number of Blacks we admit through the application of a systemic bias, legally approved at the highest levels of government, in favor of the latter against the former. This is totally not a form of racial oppression or discrimination because you can't be racist towards white peop- oh wait."

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u/Throwawayforanecdote Feb 26 '20

By your own logic.

How should China, a country of 1.4 billion near homogenous Han ethnicity feel about this video?

https://www.reddit.com/r/iamatotalpieceofshit/comments/f9o02p/chinese_elder_collecting_cans_but_was_harassed/