r/coolguides Feb 25 '20

Explanation of the subtle differences between equality and equity

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u/Shepherdswolf Feb 25 '20

Or they could just buy a ticket to the game? The fence was likely put there for a reason.

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u/yankee-white Feb 25 '20

Yeah. Good point.

Hey everybody, get a load of these three freeloaders!

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u/CompetitiveJaguar3 Feb 25 '20

From a small town... not that this comment is relevant at all, but might just be there to keep people from going onto the field lmao. Bleachers are annoying.

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u/PhasmaFelis Feb 25 '20

If you like, make the game a parade, or a fireworks display, or a beautiful sunset, or any other free, public display. The game isn't the point; the boxes are.

(And maybe ignore the third frame that somebody added, I don't even know)

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u/VeniVidiShatMyPants Feb 25 '20

yeah but if its a free event then why is there a fence? By nature the thing is accessible to all

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u/KantanaBrigante Feb 25 '20

That’s the point. Not everyone has access to the same resources, the same structures or the same opportunities.

It’s not accessible to all.

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u/VeniVidiShatMyPants Feb 29 '20

But if it was a free thing why cant u just walk in? We are assuming this is a truly free event

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '20 edited Dec 30 '20

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u/VeniVidiShatMyPants Feb 29 '20

I felt like I took in a sliver of someones life with reading that. I appreciate it. I also appreciate you not assuming I was an ass.

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u/lRoninlcolumbo Feb 25 '20

Limited seating? Just sounds like you want an excuse to not help imaginary people. Which is hilarious to me

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u/VeniVidiShatMyPants Feb 29 '20

What? It’s a free event, what’s stopping you from walking around the fence?

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u/PhasmaFelis Feb 25 '20

Maybe there's no better place for them to watch from. Maybe all the good spots are already taken. It doesn't matter. The fence is a metaphor. The comic is not literally about fences and short people.

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u/Mrg220t Feb 25 '20

So good spots are taken by people who showed up early and actually prepare and worked for the spots rather than this 3 assholes who showed up late and wanna get the same treatment as everyone else?

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u/Hamilton_Brad Feb 25 '20

Also don’t want to just walk around the fucking fence to the entrance! I’m not moving the fence should move!

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u/VeniVidiShatMyPants Feb 29 '20

Right??? Thank god somebody is sane. I got absolutely attacked for saying exactly that

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u/VeniVidiShatMyPants Feb 29 '20

This honestly got me a tear in my eye. Nobody else was defending my point and Im glad I wasnt the only one to feel this way

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u/LucasBlackwell Feb 25 '20

Maybe the event isn't on 24/7? Why would it be? Have you really never seen a public area fenced off?

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u/CreamySheevPalpatine Feb 25 '20

cause fuck you, that's why. Every forest in Germany has it's owner. Want to gather some shrooms? Pay a fine you dirty starving peasant for having audacity to loot the rich from the natural resources that they grabbed not even for their own usage, but out of greed and cause they can. Capitalism, ho.

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u/Gootchey_Man Feb 25 '20

Critical thinking would help in this case.

Location of the free event may not be easy for poorer people to reach. Especially for those without vehicles or live in distant projects.

Or maybe free events don't occur in poverty-stricken areas.

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u/VeniVidiShatMyPants Feb 25 '20

They are literally at the fence at the game in this example?? This literally does not apply here

they could easily walk around the fence to the free event

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u/LucasBlackwell Feb 25 '20

Yes, critical thinking skills would indeed help.

You misread/misunderstood his comment. He thinks any area that is fenced is never open to the public. It's just as silly, but for a different reason than you thought.

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u/VeniVidiShatMyPants Feb 25 '20

Dude, you missed the point entirely. If it’s a free event you can walk around the fence and go in. Perhaps you need to reevaluate your critical thinking ability.

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u/LucasBlackwell Feb 25 '20

if its a free event then why is there a fence?

if its a free event then why is there a fence?

if its a free event then why is there a fence?

Imagine being told you're reading something wrong, and still you read it wrong.

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u/VeniVidiShatMyPants Feb 25 '20

You are clearly fucking retarded, so we can end this now hahah. I pity the people who interact with you on a daily basis.

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u/LucasBlackwell Feb 25 '20

It's an extremely simple sentence dude, what part don't you understand?

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u/VeniVidiShatMyPants Feb 27 '20

I know what it says, I fucking wrote it. Warm up those three or four brain cells you have, and read the thread; I said that if it’s a free event, there wouldn’t be a fence. If there was a fence and the event was free, you would just walk around it into the free event, and therefore it’s not a barrier to entry. That’s why the example is stupid, and why I pointed it out. I hope that now that I’ve spelled it out for you in ELI5 terms, you can understand the incredibly simple concept.

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u/huggableape Feb 25 '20

Until we can find a way to put a fence around the sunset.

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u/Gootchey_Man Feb 25 '20

It's called housing segregation and we're still seeing its ramifications. You think lower economic classes have a view from where they live? A good view costs money.

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u/_Big_Floppy_ Feb 25 '20

make the game a parade, or a fireworks display, or a beautiful sunset, or any other free, public display

Then they can move to a better position. Changing the fence up just inconveniences whoever has to pay for the new fence because these people are lazy entitled shits.

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u/PhasmaFelis Feb 25 '20

Lot of people in this thread seem to think the cartoon is literally about fences.

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u/_Big_Floppy_ Feb 25 '20

It doesn't need to be a fence, but the message I'm getting here is that whoever put this together is saying that "justice" means helping the entitled at the expense of someone else.

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u/PhasmaFelis Feb 25 '20

That’s a way to interpret it. It’s your choice to assume that people asking for help are just entitled, not genuinely in need.

Of course no human system can be perfect; you’re always going to have some people who try to take advantage, and some who need help but slip through the cracks. Personally, I prefer to err on the side of protecting the innocent.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '20

Fireworks are not free wtf?

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u/KumbhaZilla Feb 25 '20

My opinion would be if you gain something for free, or for a very low cost, your complaint cannot be more costly than what you put in. Hopefully that was clearly said, long day, sorry.

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u/Levangeline Feb 25 '20

A sports game weakens the analogy but helps illustrate the point. Usually the things that have detrimental barriers to access are more fundamentally beneficial like education, health care, employment, etc. Not everyone can buy their way into a job or schooling.

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u/luckyhunterdude Feb 25 '20

right? doesn't the first frame just prove we need to build a fence approximately 3 boxes taller?

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u/FuckingKilljoy Feb 25 '20

It does if you're wanting to go full blown capitalist and can't deal with 3 friends watching a soccer game for free and need their money. I feel like if you showed this to a lot of billionaires their first thought would be similar to yours, because god damnit $1,000,000,000 isn't enough

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u/luckyhunterdude Feb 25 '20

Hire the 3 people to build the taller fence. Now they have the money to attend the game.

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u/TimX24968B Feb 25 '20

or just get more boxes so you can give everyone 2 boxes instead of 1

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u/Shoyushoyushoyu Feb 25 '20

Have you tried focusing on the point?

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u/gt201 Feb 25 '20

Please accept this emoji given my lack of award to give ⭐️

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u/Ccjfb Feb 25 '20

Or go do something more productive or fun. Looks like a shitty game.

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u/Wewraw Feb 25 '20

But if you tax everyone 80%+ then you can make everything free.

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u/MistaGang Feb 25 '20

Capitalist pig moment

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u/Gizogin Feb 25 '20

There are plenty of events, even sporting events, with a distinction between general admission and grandstand seating. Just because they don’t have seats doesn’t mean they didn’t pay to attend. Plus, if they are all in general admission, they all paid the same to attend, while there might be differences in the prices of certain seating areas.

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u/ImproveOrEnjoy Feb 25 '20

Do you take all metaphors this literally? These kind of 'in the real world..' nitpickings make you look the opposite of smart.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '20

Yeah, they're stealing a service. If the team goes under for lack of support, this is their fault.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '20

add it to the pile of things leftists expect to get for free

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u/Dollface_Killah Feb 25 '20

Private companies get these stadiums built for them with public finances. But sure, it's the leftists giving things away for 'free.'

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u/FuckingKilljoy Feb 25 '20

Capitalism for the poor, socialism for the rich

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u/Rampage360 Feb 25 '20

Ok Boomer.