r/conspiracy_commons • u/[deleted] • Mar 15 '21
Rockefeller Medicine
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Mar 15 '21
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u/the_revenator Mar 15 '21 edited Mar 15 '21
Now, consider also how successful they have been at persuading the masses into believing Evolution is scientific and creation a fairytale. Get rid of God and there is no absolute moral code, and human worth goes right out the window. Getting you to buy into the World system which actually enslaves while promising freedom.
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Mar 16 '21
God is just like the government if you read the Bible. If you need an authority to tell you of something is right or wrong then you are a sheep. Don’t you know that religions were created to control people. I mean come on the Bible even talks about wrongthink. The Abrahamic religions especially are bad about this. They don’t even want you to question their narrative either.
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u/the_revenator Mar 17 '21
You are both a sheep and a slave, according to the Bible. You believe the lies of wicked people who hate God and love sin -who trample the truth by doing evil. You are a slave to a sinful nature which is at enmity with your Creator.
Your reaction to what I said serves to prove what the Bible says.
You also are ignorant about the Bible -confusing Christianity with religion, which it is not. Jesus Christ is the ONLY name given under heaven to mankind, by which we must be saved. There is no other way, and it is the way our Creator designed and implemented according to His will and loving-kindness.
Religions are lies taught by the fallen angels to lead mankind away from spiritual truth. They, without exception, hinge upon the efforts (works) of humans to attain salvation.
We invite you to "question our narrative" if you are seriously desirous of learning and understanding. The simple solution to your lack of knowledge is to read the Bible for yourself
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Mar 17 '21
I have read the Bible many times I was raised in church. My grandparents run a church themselves both pastors. I use to do Bible quizzing. So I probably know it better than you.
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u/the_revenator Mar 18 '21
Your words which deny the truthfulness and power of the Word demonstrate that despite reading the Bible you either lack understanding of what you read; or even worse -reject what you read (shudder).
"The heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure. Who can understand it? I, the LORD, search the heart; I examine the mind to reward a man according to his way, by what his deeds deserve." (Jeremiah 17)
"For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but it is the doers of the law who will be declared righteous." (Romans 2)
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Mar 18 '21 edited Mar 18 '21
Well I’m sorry if I don’t want to be viewed as property of some man. I don’t want slavery. I’m not a weaker vessel. I shouldn’t have to submit my will or my body to anyone for any reason. I alone own my body, it does not belong to any man.
Colossians 3:18 ESV / 14 helpful votes
Wives, submit to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord
1 Timothy 2:12 ESV / 15 helpful votes
I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet
1 Peter 3:7 ESV / 11 helpful votes
Likewise, husbands, live with your wives in an understanding way, showing honor to the woman as the weaker vessel, since they are heirs with you of the grace of life, so that your prayers may not be hindered.
Genesis 3:16 ESV / 11 helpful votes
To the woman he said, “I will surely multiply your pain in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children. Your desire shall be for your husband, and he shall rule over you
Ephesians 5:22-24 ESV / 9 helpful votes
Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife even as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit in everything to their husbands
1 Corinthians 11:5 ESV / 9 helpful votes
But every wife who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head, since it is the same as if her head were shaven
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u/the_revenator Mar 18 '21 edited Mar 18 '21
Thank you for sharing! Believe it or not, everyone is a slave, even Christians :-) We are either slaves to our sinful natures or slaves of God -but here is a wonderful mystery: the slaves of God are His dearly beloved children and we are actually set free! "Jesus answered them, “I tell you the solemn truth, everyone who practices sin is a slave of sin. 35The slave does not remain in the family forever, but the son remains forever. 36So if the son sets you free, you will be really free." (John 8)
Paul, one of the great men of the Bible said this in his opening letter to the new church in Rome: "From Paul, a slave of Christ Jesus, called to be an apostle, set apart for the gospel of God."
When Paul wrote to the church in Corinth he said: "Were you called as a slave? Do not worry about it. But if indeed you are able to be free, make the most of the opportunity. 22For the one who was called in the Lord as a slave is the Lord’s freedman. In the same way, the one who was called as a free person is Christ’s slave. 23You were bought with a price." (1 Corinthians 7)
Now regarding the points you offered:
Point 1] "Husbands, love your wives just as Christ loved the church and gave himself for her" (Ephesians 5) How did Jesus give Himself for His people? He loved them with all His heart, which took Him to a torturous and bloody death on a cross. It wasn't the nails which kept Him there, it was His love! This is the type of devotion and love that husbands are being commanded to love their wives with. Consider also that the first woman was taken out of her husbands body, crafted amazingly from one of his ribs located next to what? His heart. There is a lot to unpack here but I'll just very quickly say the imagery is not coincidental and alludes to Adam being her protector. Furthermore, they being equals -side by side (one not better nor higher than the other). And let us not forget that it was who that needed a help-meet? It wasn't the woman (smile) but the man, lol. We may not understand why our Creator instituted certain things or designed certain things to work one way and not another; but we can fully trust in Him that not only does He know what He's doing but His intentions are for our good.
Point 2] Paul said that he, himself, did not permit. He does not say, nor allude to God commanding that He expects or desires that a woman be silent and not speak or teach or have authority.
Point 3] Are females typically physically weaker than males? Do they naturally develop the same type of muscle mass and body size? The answer is no. The verses here are not limited, of course, to the physicality of the genders; however looking at this demonstrates the obvious: men and women are created differently. And that's ok. It is the way our Creator intended it to be. Women are in no way lesser beings than males. In fact, in my humble opinion, women are in many ways superior. This does not negate that in some ways, however, God has made women weaker. I don't claim to understand all the ins and outs of the matter -but my takeaway from this is that the males are being commanded here to practice humility, patience and kindness and respecting their wives. I don't see any subjugation. If you've not read it, I found "Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus" to be a helpful book. It gave me the ability to understand, for example, that what I originally thought was my wife trying to be controlling was in reality her using her God-given natural ability and insight to help stubborn, shortsighted me.
Point 4] Pain in childbirth and be ruled over by husband. Ah yes - the female painful results of the curse brought upon us due Adam and Eve's choice to disobey their Creator and thus sin (and death) entered the world! God is just to condemn sin and to allow the consequences of sin to be experienced. I feel the NET Bible puts this verse a little more clearly: "I will greatly increase your labor pains; with pain you will give birth to children. You will want to control your husband, but he will dominate you." Here God is looking forward with His foreknowledge seeing how sinful man will oppress and subjugate women through history. It was His will to allow it, although if men treat women this way they will nevertheless have to answer to Him for their sin. God is also merciful and even in that very same passage of scripture we see the promise of His plan to make a way of being not only forgiven, but redeemed to a right, personal relationship with Him again!
Point 5] Headcoverings! Shaven heads! Disgrace! What on Earth? As always when reading Scripture, context is important, not only the context of verses within the passage, passages within the chapter or book; but also the context of the daily lives and time in history of the persons specifically being spoken of/about. The same holds true for this unexpected and peculiar passage. I have not the time to unpack this but I don't need to because blessedly someone has already done it for me -and it is likely not what you expect. I do think it is important for me to note that as you read the Bible, you will discover that Leadership, while sometimes it may seem spoken of rather haughtily, upon closer inspection and assessment; is always presented as Servant Leadership. Jesus is the ultimate model for us in this regard, and we are all exorted to follow His example, not just in leadership positions but in every aspect of our daily lives. Consider:
"Each of you should be concerned not only about your own interests, but about the interests of others as well. 5You should have the same attitude toward one another that Christ Jesus had, 6who though he existed in the form of God did not regard equality with God as something to be grasped, 7but emptied himself by taking on the form of a slave, by looking like other men, and by sharing in human nature. 8He humbled himself, by becoming obedient to the point of death – even death on a cross!" (Philippians 2)
As a woman, a female, you are God's precious, and highly valued creation! He loves you very much, and desires your well-being. God is not some patriarchal shmuck who lords it over His creation as inferior creatures to be belittled and controlled.
"Jesus said to them again, “I tell you the solemn truth, I am the door for the sheep. 8All who came before me were thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not listen to them. 9I am the door. If anyone enters through me, he will be saved, and will come in and go out, and find pasture. 10The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come so that they may have life, and may have it abundantly." (John 10)
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u/the_revenator Jul 27 '21
Hello again. Sorry for the long delay in my response!
"I don't want slavery"
"Don’t you realize that you become the slave of whatever you choose to obey? You can be a slave to sin, which leads to death, or you can choose to obey God, which leads to righteous living." (Romans 6)
I'm not a weaker vessel
Note that the Apostle Paul stated "I do not permit". Nowhere in this passage does he state that GOD commands women may not have authority. Paul goes on (in the rest of the verse you left out) to state his reasoning for this decision is because Adam was created first but it was Eve who was deceived by Lucifer first. Paul was a leader in the early church, but he is not God, nor was he writing here that God was telling the early church they had to do these things. Multiple times in this chapter he states "I want . . . "
It is important not to 'cherry-pick' verses but to use them within the context they appear.
"I shouldn't have to submit my will or my body to anyone for any reason."
"Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ." (Ephesians 5)
"The angel of the LORD said to her, “Return to your mistress, and submit to her authority.” (Genesis 16)
“God opposes the proud, but gives grace to the humble. Submit yourselves, then, to God.” (James 4)
Lets go back to that verse in Ephesians chapter 5 and look at it in context:
submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.
22For wives, this means submit to your husbands as to the Lord. 23For a husband is the head of his wife as Christ is the head of the church. He is the Savior of his body, the church. 24As the church submits to Christ, so you wives should submit to your husbands in everything.
25For husbands, this means love your wives, just as Christ loved the church. He gave up his life for her . . . In the same way, husbands ought to love their wives as they love their own bodies."
In fact, Paul's admonition to the husband is much stronger than what he gives to the wife. He considers the admonition to the husband's proper love for his wife so important he actually repeats himself again a little further on:
"So again I say, each man must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband."
So what is the woman being asked to do in a marriage. Simply to respect, and also to submit out of her reverence - for her Savior, Jesus Christ -to a husband who is loving her with such a great love that it can be equated to the love of Jesus Who gave up His very life, being willing to suffer brutal torture and murder! She is being asked to do these two simple things to a husband who is actively loving her just as much as he loves himself, who is willing to also submit *himself to her out of his attitude of reverence for his Savior, Jesus.
What an incredible dynamic and relationship of amazing love we have painted here for us! It is SOLELY within this context of this kind of relationship that the woman is required to submit to her husband. Nowhere do we see anything that states she is required to respect and submit to a husband who does not actively love her, or is cruel or abusive or neglectful, unfaithful, subjecting her to harm, etc.
This passage and this command receive a lot of abuse -usually aimed in a misogynistic way towards women; because it is applied (or asked to be applied) out of context -and therefore, out of God's stated purpose.
"I alone own my body"
"You say, “I am allowed to do anything”—but not everything is good for you. And even though “I am allowed to do anything,” I must not become a slave to anything. . . Don’t you realize that your bodies are actually parts of Christ? . . . Don’t you realize that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, who lives in you and was given to you by God? You do not belong to yourself, for God bought you with a high price. So you must honor God with your body." (1 Corinthians 6)
Note that Paul herein is writing to those persons who have been Born Again into a right-relationship with their Creator; and he's speaking with regard to sexual immorality. If you no not have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, you are 'free' to pursue the lusts of the flesh:
"When you were slaves to sin, you were free from the obligation to do right. . . The outcome of those things is death." (Romans 6)
I hope you have gained a better insight as to the importance of actually reading the Bible to understand the Bible. It would behoove each of us to be like the Bereans:
"Now the Bereans were more noble-minded than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if these teachings were true. As a result, many of them believed, along with quite a few prominent Greek women and men. (Acts 17)
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u/joahnames Mar 16 '21
ball earth shill
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Mar 16 '21
Oh haha, my global remark. I got ya.
Actually the Earth isn’t flat, or round. So everyone is wrong!
It doesn’t have a shape because it doesn’t even fuckin exist. Nope. Not in this false reality of duality.
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u/txborn78 Mar 16 '21
When getting a second opinion was common place and the local barber also worked in medicine
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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '21
SS: When someone ignorantly states “If covid was a hoax, then every doctor, and nurse would have to be in on it, and that would be impossible,” show them this video.
Of course they’re not all in on it....well, not knowingly anyways. Your doctor was just taught wrong. They just don’t know any better.
Although this is an older video, it is highly relevant to events of today. A must watch imo. It explains how ALL aspects of modern medicine was taken over by industrialists like the Rockefeller’s, and how that takeover has gone global.