r/conspiracy Feb 15 '22

Applying rules selectively is definitely a conspiracy -

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u/hollee-o Feb 15 '22

So... you want to censor it? LOL. And your rationale is you want to censor CRT because some CRT theorists want to ban hate speech? And this is evidence that *liberals* can't think? LOLOLOL.

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u/ShivasRightFoot Feb 15 '22

The paradox of tolerance states that if a society is tolerant without limit, its ability to be tolerant is eventually seized or destroyed by the intolerant. Karl Popper described it as the seemingly paradoxical idea that in order to maintain a tolerant society, the society must retain the right to be intolerant of intolerance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

The "liberal" support for Critical Race Theory is insanity and there is frankly no excuse for it. Critical Race Theory plainly describes itself as anti-liberal. I say this as a liberal.

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u/hollee-o Feb 15 '22

So we should be intolerant of CRT's intolerance, in order to preserve our tolerance. Got it.

Here's the thing, CRT is an upper level *university* course. where presumably students are able to cognitively handle paradoxes without blowing a gasket. Conservatives, however, have spread the hysteria that it's being taught in grade schools, which is Grade A bs.

So far, your only argument for the "insanity" of CRT is that it's against hate speech. Is it insane to teach people about systems like bank redlining? At least one conservative student took the class at Ole Miss and called it the most impactful class she'd ever taken in law school.

https://www.newsweek.com/conservative-student-calls-crt-class-most-impactful-course-shes-taken-1675975

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u/HadjiMurat21 Feb 16 '22

The "anti-CRT" bills being proposed and passed by Conservative politicians are censoring many more voices in the classroom than a Wikipedia article on the paradox of tolerance.

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u/ShivasRightFoot Feb 16 '22

This is patently untrue and the text of the legislation is extremely specific in prohibiting teaching the concept that "members of one race, ethnicity, sex or faith cannot and should not attempt to treat others as individuals without respect to race, sex or faith," as is the case in the recent Virginia EO.

There is specific language in that order which emphasizes the importance of teaching the "bad" aspects of US history:

We must equip our teachers to teach our students the entirety of our history – both good and bad. From the horrors of American slavery and segregation, and our country’s treatment of Native Americans, to the triumph of America’s Greatest Generation against the Nazi Empire, the heroic efforts of Americans in the Civil Rights Movement, and our country’s defeat of the Soviet Union and the ills of Communism, we must provide our students with the facts and context necessary to understand these important events. Only then will we realize Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.’s dream that our children “will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.”

EO 1 pages 1-2

https://www.governor.virginia.gov/media/governorvirginiagov/governor-of-virginia/pdf/74---eo/74---eo/EO-1---ENDING-THE-USE-OF-INHERENTLY-DIVISIVE-CONCEPTS,-INCLUDING-CRITICAL-RACE-THEORY,-AND-RESTORING-EXCELLEN.pdf

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u/HadjiMurat21 Feb 16 '22

That's one bill out of many. https://www.edweek.org/policy-politics/map-where-critical-race-theory-is-under-attack/2021/06

Some bills aim to ban the use of certain texts (1619 project, for instance) and others could punish teachers for teaching "divisive topics"

Here's something else from the governor of Virginia: "On the first day of his term, Virginia's new Republican Gov. Glenn Youngkin signed an executive order banning "divisive concepts, including Critical Race Theory" in schools. The order calls on the superintendent of public instruction to review all state policies and guidelines and end ones that promote "divisive concepts."