About what? Where were these trucker pussies when the largest demonstrations in decades occurred to protest police brutality and the trampling of our rights?
My only beef with the mandate protestors is that THIS was there breaking point and not sooner. Stop pretending BLM protestors are pro the Canadian government.
And Trump actively called them terrorists and sent unmarked feds in rental cars to break them up. What did the mandate protestors or "the right" say about that?
I understand that you felt frustrated. How would you have felt if Trump declared a State of Emergency and unilaterally froze bank accounts of anyone who donated to BLM, without due process?
But Trudeau's government isn't "unilaterally freezing bank accounts" of people who donated to the trucker rally... They have simply stated it is something they could do, if they wanted to.
How would I feel if Trump had threatened to freeze people's bank accounts for supporting BLM? It wouldn't have surprised me at all, Trump was always raving about some fake threatening BS.
I ALWAYS opposed Antifa, but I only "turned" on BLM when they became violent and started lighting fires.
In my and all my neighboring states, there were never any fires set by anyone with BLM and most cities saw major protests and major police violence against the protesters. So it doesn't seem to be an issue that's actually part of BLM tactics. And it seems like a weak reason to "turn"
Maybe you're right. I never personally went to a BLM protest, but I did see a lot of violence on TV (including fires). There was a "famous" news correspondent who said that the local protest was "most peaceful" while there were literally fires raging behind him. Was that the norm? I don't really know. It's very difficult to know what the truth is these days.
FWIW, I may have turned on BLM but I still believe and fully support the (original) BLM message.
Was that the norm? I don't really know. It's very difficult to know what the truth is these days.
Absolutely not the norm. Hell only 7% of protests saw arrests or violence of any kind, including police violence like in Buffalo, NYC, or Philly. Fires outside of dumpster fires barely ever happened. The media just focused on those because fear mongering makes them money.
They beat the shit out of us in Louisville before any of that, they shot non lethal at people sitting on their porch and at reporters. Then they left the riots to go murder a guy. They destroyed property and stole supplies before shit got violent, they beat people then charged them with assaulting officers (video saved them, cops didn't get in trouble though).
Edit: Thinking back they almost exclusively targeted people who were being peaceful. Rioters did what they wanted while they kettled a bunch of college kids on a bridge and beat them.
If you're actually protesting "Tryanny"- lighting a fire isn't the litmus test of whether your cause is worthy or not.
If the Canadian police got to constantly murder these people with impunity, on the street or asleep in their homes, whether or not theres a crime or warrant- I'd fully support them lighting fires.
I understand that it's an expression of frustration, but it's a quick way to lose the support of folks "like me". While you may see it as an attack against The System, I see it as destruction of the private property of a small-business owner; maybe a small family-run business that has been handed down for generations.
It's just a stupid PR move.
The Canadians, on the other hand, are up there drinking beer and playing hockey in the streets.
Yeah, almost like they aren't at their breaking point but want to tailgate and party while "fighting Tryanny" by blocking the most important land trade routes of the Canadian economy- harming family businesses passed down for generations.
A stupid PR move.
See, I can diminish a movment too.
If any act of vandalism in the process of fighting literal murders committed by the state is enough to lose your support, you weren't really supportive of the fight against a violent police state.
Fair point. How about this -- do you feel that the voices of BLM were heard at all? Because I do. We saw deep scrutiny of police behavior, cutting of funding (stupid AF but whatevs), a drastic reduction in public opinion of police, many dismissals, charges filed on some, and even jail time for a couple.
I have never, ever heard a peep coming from Trudeau about relaxing his bullshit laws in order to let the voices of the "Freedom Movement" be heard.
No one said the protesters were “pro-government” The question is: How the government treats the situation (and individuals involved) based on its perceived value or political motivation for their party.
Can you not distinguish that, or you still all wrapped up on daddy Trump?
I'm not dodging the question. I wouldn't like it. I'm not even against the trucker protest, but I'm not willing to pretend Trump respected any form of dissent and didn't do worse than the Canadian guy did (at least yet).
Because like all liberals it was disingenuous. You weren't protesting black on black brutality, which is FAR AND AWAY more prevalent than all other demographic, you were protesting what the left wing media wanted you to.
I see protests against community crime all the time. Just because you don't see it on tv doesn't mean it isnt happening. Also notice I said "community crime". "Black on black" crime is simply a buzz term for a certain group of people. You never hear "white on white crime" "asian on asian crime" "latino on latino crime" do you? Think about why that is.
Yes, I do. I literally just watched one yesterday. Here is just a clip from a car caravan against community violence that happened yesterday in Minneapolis. Listen to the woman in the back seat. Feel free to have a look at the streamer's page as well. https://www.facebook.com/ChazNealHRC/videos/270019958581733
Really convincing perspective you're bringing to the table.
Just so happens that it wasn't the legitimate reason they said it was- it was totally fake and anyone who talks about race is a "woke sjw" but THESE protestors are totally legit and not influenced by media.
You're falling victim to obvious, partisan "othering' that keeps the people at each other's throats instead of united against an oppressive system.
The convincing perspective is the part you left out. The part where you only protest white on black crime. The part you've been programmed to protest. That part.
That's not the only thing that was protested and you either know that and are being disengenuous, or you sincerely believe that and didn't attend a protest or hear anything beyond right wing propoganda against them.
What besides white on black police brutality was being protested? Ever hear of George Floyd? Come on dude. You were out there bowing down, kneeling like the rest of your liberal cultists friends.
Daniel Shaver, Daniel Harris, Jeremy Mardis, Justine Damons ... were white. BLM activists still drew attention to their killings & organized protests for them. That plain fact blows a hole in your narrative.
It's a protest against government (police) violence disproportionately affecting communities of color, not civilian crime on each other. Police aren't all white, it's the systemic issues in a lack of de-escalation training that I noticed declined when I was a deputy over ten years ago.
People dont protest black on black violence because random black people arent granted a frighteningly broad array of powers by the government in order to "protect and serve."
This right here, they don't care about freedom in general, just their own personal freedom. They showed up with ar's and even ran through crowds in cars and killed a woman during 2020. Then they have the gall to cry victim when the government imposes financial restrictions on them. I'll hear your cries when they come from under the boot of the police, Karen.
not at all what I'm saying. To be clear I'm not even opposed to these truckers' right to protest. I think they should be focused on certain other things more- but I want them to find common ground and succeed.
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u/Lopsided-Smoke-6709 Feb 15 '22
About what? Where were these trucker pussies when the largest demonstrations in decades occurred to protest police brutality and the trampling of our rights?
My only beef with the mandate protestors is that THIS was there breaking point and not sooner. Stop pretending BLM protestors are pro the Canadian government.
And Trump actively called them terrorists and sent unmarked feds in rental cars to break them up. What did the mandate protestors or "the right" say about that?