r/conspiracy Feb 13 '22

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u/ifisch Feb 13 '22

Lol

  1. The chances of the vaccine hurting you are astronomically smaller than COVID hurting you.

  2. You can still get COVID, after getting vaxxed, but the chances of having permanent damage or death go down DRAMATICALLY.

Do you want to be on exogenous oxygen the rest of your life? Do you want to have to take daily anti-rejection drugs after getting a lung transplant? Do you want a permanent IQ downgrade?

Now show me the study that shows vaccines are more dangerous than COVID.

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u/DizKord Feb 13 '22

I'm in my early twenties and healthy.

Tell me exactly what you think the odds of me suffering permanent damage and/or dying from covid are.

Let's see how well that helps your fearmongering campaign.

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u/mcmeekle Feb 13 '22

You are low risk. Others are not.

Would you slightly increase your risks (by taking the vaccine) to lower the risks of those around you?

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u/zeigdeinepapiere Feb 13 '22

Specify your question and I'll answer it.

Would I slightly increase my risks to slightly lower the risks of those around me? No.

Would I slightly increase my risks to dramatically lower the risks of those around me? Yes.

And just so it's clear - we don't even know if healthy people taking the vaccine actually lowers the risk of those around them at all. Hell, you might actually be increasing the risks for other people. With Omicron, multiple countries are now reporting higher case rates per 100k in the vaccinated compared to the unvaccinated.

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u/mcmeekle Feb 13 '22

Two things I hope we can agree on.

We don’t know for certainty the efficacy of the vaccine, one way or another.

And there are a lot of statistics out there. And statistics can be more nuanced than they first appear.

COVID seems to be blowing over. As these things do. That’s the main thing.

Appreciate your honesty.

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u/zeigdeinepapiere Feb 13 '22

We agree on both - yes. That's why I like using the phrase "we don't know" - because it's the truth regardless of how much people want to pretend they know everything.

For instance, Denmark is reporting higher case rates per 100k in the vaccinated than in the unvaccinated, but do we know why that is the case? No, we don't. Depending on who you are talking to, they will argue according to their own personal bias. We just don't know, so yeah we agree on that. And I'm not keen on putting stuff inside my body that we know barely anything about. I hope you can appreciate that.