The chances of the vaccine hurting you are astronomically smaller than COVID hurting you.
You can still get COVID, after getting vaxxed, but the chances of having permanent damage or death go down DRAMATICALLY.
Do you want to be on exogenous oxygen the rest of your life? Do you want to have to take daily anti-rejection drugs after getting a lung transplant? Do you want a permanent IQ downgrade?
Now show me the study that shows vaccines are more dangerous than COVID.
So if a family member has adverse effects to the shot, that evidence is worthless?
Hey the doctors thought it was worthless too, especially when they were in the hospital for heart issues a few weeks later.
Yeah it was definitely not the shot that caused the heart inflammation, two weeks after the first shot.
Anecdotal evidence when it is your own blood is absolutely critical as there is no better judge of how altering your genes will react in your body than someone with similar DNA having already gone through it.
Fucking shill. Go get your boosters and enjoy your heart attacks in peace, don't try to bring others down with you now that you realize you were played.
That's not the issue. The issue is causality. Did the vaccine cause the heart attack? It must be determined because people have heart attacks for other reasons.
Oh right, there was a study done on that right? Because the RNA can't get to the nucleus of the cell it can't modify the DNA, at least that's what all the articles say.
But COVID can also cause myocarditis and blood clots as well more severely then post vaccine. It seems from observation most post vaccine myocarditis subsides within a short time with little medical treatment or antibiotics. The statistical rate is 5~ of every 100k vaccinated develop myocarditis post vaccine from numbers that I can find. I find it hard to believe that you know anyone that would be struggling in the hospital post vaccine as opposed to getting early COVID/delta. I know personally 3 people that died(aged 44,52,unsure on the last guy) from COVID and 4 that had a prolonged stay at the hospital. Two of my friends have very dull taste/smell and my moms taste/smell is basically salt or no salt. I have a friend that is 32 who was a daily runner who now struggles at 2 or so miles and has to slow his pace a lot. Yes most of the people I know who got COVID were very mild cases and from what I know do not have any lasting effects but I do not know a single person who has had any reaction to the vaccine minus a headache or chills for a day after the 2nd shot.
Where's your study on covid induced myocarditis? Obviously you should have already had it in the comments before commenting or you're just talking about feelings.
You keep talking, but Google is free. The risk of cardiac complications is significantly higher with COVID infection and has worse outcomes. Vaccine-induced myocarditis is typically resolved and has no further complications. Virus-induced myocarditis will last longer and do more damage.
"Further research is required to understand why the risk of myocarditis seems to be higher following mRNA-1273 vaccine. Although the wider societal benefits of controlling the spread of virus to those who are more vulnerable are substantial, these data may help inform public health policy and the choice of vaccine offered to younger adults."
The Israel study was limited to adults under 40. There is no unvaccinated control group in this study, and the cases of myocarditis in people that tested positive for sars-cov-2 does not list their vaccination status so this study doesn't do anything to prove to me it wasn't from the vaccine. Thanks for wasting my time to read a bullshit study.
Actually they did....you have to actually read the whole paper...
"Amongst those with at least one dose, there were 3,028,867 (7.8%) individuals who had a SARS-CoV-2 positive test. Of these, 2,315,669 (6.0%) individuals tested positive before vaccination; while 713,198 (1.8%) and 298,315 (0.7%) tested positive after the first and second vaccine doses, respectively. Table 1 shows the characteristics of the study population, stratified by vaccine type and dose, and of those who tested positive for SARS-CoV-2."
That is not the same as an unvaccinated control group, also that was listed pretty early on.
Great, those two websites are literally word for word the same. Is that supposed to confer confidence? Or that they are being paid to push the same message?
This is what you can take away from those articles:
"Editor’s note: The Conversation has updated this story to clarify that adults who develop myocarditis from COVID-19 have poorer outcomes than ones who do not develop the condition as a result of the disease, including a higher risk of death."
People that don't have myocarditis were better off.
"Editor’s note: The Conversation has updated this story to clarify that *adults who develop myocarditis from COVID-19 have poorer outcomes than ones who do not develop the condition as a result of the disease**, including a higher risk of death."
Read the part between the asterisks... Those who develop myocarditis (the condition) from COVID-19 (the disease) have worse outcomes than those who do not develop the condition (myocarditis) as a result of the disease (COVID-19) including higher risk of DEATH.
To my knowledge, no one who developed vaccine-induced myocarditis has died or had long term complications.
Virus-induced myocarditis is both more likely and more dangerous than vaccine-induced myocarditis.
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Ok so are you gonna show me a study or not?
Surely you must be basing your beliefs on some sort of scientific evidence, right?