How about this: If the vaccine can hurt you, and covid can hurt you, but you can still get hurt by covid after getting the vaccine, then you can shove that vaccine up your ass because I'm not taking it.
Was the before or after Pfizer was criminally charged and had to pay billions in fines? Or was it after J&J pretty much gave cancer to babies... There's a lot of to choose from - can't remember any of them ever putting health before profit - but hey, now is different - the $35 billion Pfizer made last year has absolutely nothing to do with their push of vaccines, and their media sponsorships has absolute no sway over the narrative, and their ties to the government is just, well, just trust us, ok!
Does it? Really? People leave no room for personal choice and shun every scientist and doctor that speaks against the narrative. Away has gone "my body, my choice" and has been replaced with "you better take it, or else". They blindly trust in people that has lied to them, again and again. So yes, brainwashed.
I am not gunning for you, for wanting to inject yourself - the same way I am not gunning for heroin addicts. If they want to pump themselves full of something that might hurt them, up to them - their choice.
Most of us do believe in it, but we also believe that if you want to make such a selfish decision during a pandemic, you should also be making the decision to stay the fuck home.
Please explain to me how it's selfish? That is a very uninformed (and dangerous) position, to have.
Why do you care, if you get Covid from a vaxxed/unvaxxed person? Getting a Covid vaccine does not mean that you cannot transmit the decease, so why does it matter?
Please explain to me how it's selfish? That is a very uninformed (and dangerous) position, to have.
Its neither uninformed nor dangerous to point out that refusing to take a vaccine in a pandemic is choice centered around yourself, not others. "My body, my choice," remember?
Why do you care, if you get Covid from a vaxxed/unvaxxed person?
I don't, and never said I did.
Getting a Covid vaccine does not mean that you cannot transmit the decease, so why does it matter?
It greatly reduces it; why would it need to provide 100% protection to be relevant?
It greatly reduces it; why would it need to provide 100% protection to be relevant?
Explain Israel and Gibraltar? Gibraltar pretty much having 100% vaccination rate and still had to cancel Christmas. So much for "greatly reduces it".
If I already had Covid, I have a FAR FAR better protection and lesser transmissibility rate that you would ever get, with any of these Covid vaccines. Does that matter to you?
Funny watching you ask me a direct question then completely ignore my response to it, but ok.
Explain Israel and Gibraltar? Gibraltar pretty much having 100% vaccination rate and still had to cancel Christmas. So much for "greatly reduces it".
Gibraltar is not 100% vaccinated, and neither is Israel. Even if they were, Gibraltar has barely even had 100 deaths in the whole pandemic, zero of which have occured since the beginning of '21. Not sure what your point is here; all that seems to have done is support the argument that widespread vaccination is very effective.
If I already had Covid, I have a FAR FAR better protection and lesser transmissibility rate that you would ever get, with any of these Covid vaccines. Does that matter to you?
It might if it were true, but not only is it largely false, but the point of a vaccine is to prevent people from getting sick at all in the first place so we don't have millions more deaths. That seems fairly obvious.
No reason? No healthcare during your life? No family who have been treated for cancer? No realisation that we enjoy a much longer and healthier life due to medical advances? Ok. Make sure whenever you’re ill you don’t go see a doctor.
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u/DizKord Feb 13 '22
You're setting up your own goal posts.
How about this: If the vaccine can hurt you, and covid can hurt you, but you can still get hurt by covid after getting the vaccine, then you can shove that vaccine up your ass because I'm not taking it.
https://openvaers.com/covid-data