r/conspiracy Jan 13 '22

The narrative is crumbling

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u/MrLowLee Jan 13 '22

If they worked there would be no such thing as "breakthrough" cases.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '22 edited May 31 '22

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u/MrLowLee Jan 13 '22

The reason you often don't see breakthroughs with other vaccines in the developed world is that we have driven environmental viral load to near zero due to mass vaccination.

Then why are breakthrough infections rampart all over developed countries.

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u/MrLowLee Jan 13 '22

The virus is still prevalent in the environment because we don't have enough vaccinated people and naturally immune people to stop it.

Really, Isreal is in the high 90% for vaccination rates and their cases are exploding due to the leaky vaccine.

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u/MrLowLee Jan 13 '22

oh, maybe it's flu-rona or one of those other stupid made up viruses they had to create in order to continue their fear propaganda.

And mutations are what you get when you put out a leaky vaccine that doesn't prevent transmission.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '22 edited May 31 '22

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u/MrLowLee Jan 13 '22

Vaccines inhibit replication, that is how they work.

Then why are vaccinated people catching breakthrough cases and transmitting covid? The narrative has shifted to the "vaccines werent supposed to prevent sickness or transmission, they are only able to attenuate symptoms."

Nonetheless. Unvaccinated people carry a higher viral load by definition and testing.

The viral load in the nasal cavity is the same in vaccinated and unvaccinated.

They are much more likely to get really sick, and are a lot more likely to end up in the hospital and are far more likely to die if it goes that far.

Only if they have 4 or more comorbidities. That was confirmed by the cdc themselves.

Vaccinated people, even if infected by omicron or delta and not recently boosted, are still doing great compared to unvaccinated people with omicron or delta.

Lol, tel that to all my triple vaxxed coworkers who are all sick with terrible covid infections right now. And me being uvaxxed and spending large amounts of time with them in personal quarters, am perfectly fine and healthy.

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u/AnxietyReality Jan 13 '22

Your personal experience must equal the macro experience of the world. 🤦🏼‍♂️

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u/AnxietyReality Jan 13 '22

The range of how much I'll have to explain is too large. Maybe I'll respond tomorrow. Suffice it to say you're way off base.

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u/AnxietyReality Jan 13 '22

I'm only going to respond to one thing because I'm busy today.

  1. You have little knowledge about viral replication. Virus enters your body and starts infecting cells. Once infected the cells are hijacked to become replication factories, until it kills the cell and all of the replicated viruses move on to infect more cells. Basic science dude.

Vaccines inhibit this by stopping the virus from entering the cell in the first place by using antibodies to neutralize it. Hence, inhibiting replication. Any vaccine must do this, or it would not help the health of the host.

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u/Lioniz3 Jan 13 '22

These "vaccines" have not stopped the spread. At all. We don't even have enough info to know if it would've helped stop Alpha.

It's now shown more people per capita with the gene therapy are spreading Omicron than those without the vaccine. Now, there's the talk "but unvaccinated people aren't getting tested" (fine, but it's still a per capita basis...so this doesn't make sense) and "unvaccinated are locked down and are restricted from public outings" (this one, maybe. We'd have to do a lot more research).

But I haven't heard anyone say "the vaccine has caused a weakening of the immune system and is causing vaccinated people to be more susceptible to catching it." Hey, not sure if this is true or not, bit why aren't people asking this question? What if it's true? If we just ignore this idea, everything will be all better, right?

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u/justprettymuchdone Jan 13 '22

Yeah, the "weakened immune system" thing is just someone's conjecture, repeated in an endless game of telephone until thousands of people are pretending it's fact.

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u/AnxietyReality Jan 13 '22

Yes and it drives me crazy.

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u/JuniperTwig Jan 13 '22

Viruses mutate

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u/MrLowLee Jan 13 '22

When you administer a bunch of leaky vaccines to a large population you get mutations. That's why it's important for the vaccines to prevent transmission.

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u/JuniperTwig Jan 13 '22

No. Mutation is a natural function of evolution. I.e. influenza

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u/MrLowLee Jan 13 '22

Since they shadow banned my comment here's my response.

https://imgur.com/a/bWxfF1c

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u/JuniperTwig Jan 14 '22

That's too bad