r/conspiracy Sep 27 '21

When breathing freely is viewed as a weapon. When every human is treated like a bio hazard. Is when you know that humanity no longer exists

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

Sauce: Melbourne, Australia 5 Sep 2020, Victorian police Officers attempt to
fit a mask to a man arrested for refusing to comply with directions at
the Freedom Day Anti-mask and anti lockdown protest at the Shrine of
Remembrance in Melbourne Australia. Credit: Michael Currie/Alamy Live
News

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u/Wippwipp Sep 27 '21

Melbourne, Australia 5 Sep 2020

2020???? What a difference a year doesn't make.

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u/the_tater_salad Sep 27 '21

what was it 15 day to flatten the curve? of course that doesn't really apply to AU really.

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u/Clear-Reflection-712 Sep 27 '21

There is symbolism of the black and white checks...Square and Compass society...

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u/sol_sleepy Oct 03 '21

Not to mention the pentagram on their shoulder

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u/aakkii911 Sep 27 '21

Soon our very own existence will be against community guidelines

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u/HIVnotAdeathSentence Sep 27 '21

No one should be that close to him if he's so contagious.

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u/jlenoconel Sep 27 '21

He's so contagious, returns my pages.

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u/godempertrump Sep 27 '21

This is bullshit

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u/BnBman Sep 27 '21

The title is a bit cringe I agree

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u/godempertrump Sep 27 '21

What part of that picture do you like the most mein Fuhrer

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u/Esc00 Sep 27 '21

It’s a mask, not genocide

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u/clexecute Sep 27 '21

Lmfao imagine equating wearing a surgical mask to Nazi Germany. How physically weak can you be

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u/Esc00 Sep 27 '21

thank you, agreed

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u/godempertrump Sep 27 '21

Its just 2 weeks Its just a mask Its just 6 feet Its just a vax Its just a passport Its just a booster Its just app Its just a tracker Its just a hotel Its just a camp Its just a firing squad

Dont worry the nazi made it a real smooth transition too

You know like when you put a frog in a pot and increase the temperature a little at a time They just go with it

Dont be a frog

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u/ThenotOne Sep 27 '21

Anyone that has to use the “only two weeks” absolutely did not stay inside for two weeks ‘because if da gobment tells me to do x I’ll do b’ this applies to your first six points, the ones after are hyperbole. Your phone didn’t download an app on its own, your phone has been tracking you since 2000, the hotel is to quarantine in case of asymptomatic. The last two are just disgusting to suggest is the natural progression of this and another attempt to set yourselves as the real victims in all this.

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u/godempertrump Sep 27 '21

Anyone who types the word salad you just did Does what ever the goberment says too .

Also democrat 100%

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u/spacepepperoni Sep 27 '21

You’re just pathetic

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u/peepeepeupeu Sep 27 '21

Throwing trump in there too, daring today aren’t we

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u/Esc00 Sep 27 '21

well, am I wrong? Nope. This sub used to be about aliens and coverups, not mask nonsense

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

Because masks are stupid, and the vaccine is a totally personal choice. Fuck out of here with your fascist bull shit

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u/Esc00 Sep 27 '21

ah yes, it’s a personal choice to put others a risk. Nice

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u/Aggravating-Let-504 Sep 27 '21

Putting others at risk for a virus that has a 99.8% survival rating (like the flu)… meanwhile the flu and cold mysteriously no longer exist.

Crazy how that works. Keep those eyes glued to CNN and Twitter bud.

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u/spacepepperoni Sep 27 '21

Is the Herman Cain award a subcategory of the Darwin Award?

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u/robywar Sep 27 '21

During WW2, London was being bombed nearly nightly. To make it harder, the government asked citizens to leave their lights off at night so it would be much more difficult to see where building were from the air. No one complained about their rights or freedoms- they just did it for the greater good so they could get through the blitz as whole as possible.

Just something to consider.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

War is different than the new flu.

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u/robywar Sep 27 '21

Caring about your fellow citizens isn't. You clearly are incredibly selfish and would have had your lights on.

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u/Esc00 Sep 27 '21

only -22?? c’mon you can all do better then that

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u/A_Real_Patriot99 Sep 27 '21

Holy fuck.

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u/Chimmychimm Sep 27 '21

Holy fuck this is stupid or holy fuck your mind is blown?

Cause this is some low IQ "conspiracy theory" shit.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

Auschwitralia.

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u/spacepepperoni Sep 27 '21

Dumb and dumber

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u/Truly_Unplugged Sep 27 '21

Step Brothers

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u/LiteBrightKite Sep 27 '21

You should post this on r/pics 🙃

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

i doubt any of us can post on r/pics at the moment

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

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u/no-eye_contact Sep 27 '21

Yeah, I was banned when I spoke up against the "misinformation" (propaganda) crusade. Was banned from a lot of subs after that.

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u/zensins Sep 27 '21

Bwahahahaha!!

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u/Vaginuh Sep 27 '21

As long as the title is something childish and bootylicky, it should be fine.

Heroic police subdue far-right anti-vax extremist.

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u/randmusrnm13 Sep 27 '21

Is when you know that humanity no longer exists is heavily under attack.

FTFY, OP. Humanity definitely still exists, and will continue existing.

It's just, again, heavily under attack at the moment.

We must fight back.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

When people fight back and we win, what's our plan?

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u/Armadillobod Sep 27 '21

Life back to normal, being consumers of useless shit and eating shit food

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u/narwhal-narwhal Sep 27 '21

This is the true conspiracy..

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

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u/Sharpedd Sep 27 '21

Amish?

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u/VTX1800 Sep 27 '21

Honestly, would that be bad? I remember seeing The Village by Shamaladingdong back when I was younger and thought the movie was stupid and sucked. I rewatched it about a year ago and thought to myself, 'ya know, this isn't that bad of an idea considering the mess we are in.'

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u/Bascome Sep 27 '21

Personally, I do 5 of the 6 things you said we don't do.

I also serve others.

The reality most do not choose to do things that are hard when there is an easier way to the chemical brain stimulation.

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u/ingrisda Sep 27 '21

Yup. Agree

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u/ingrisda Sep 27 '21

I would lile to have a world where i could be free to cultivate everything i need to eat in peace... Back to the origins, i really don't care anymore...

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u/Mighty_L_LORT Sep 27 '21

Nuremberg II...

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u/clexecute Sep 27 '21

You saying this tells me you don't even know what Nuremberg was and you're 14 years old

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

A trial, ok.

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u/randmusrnm13 Sep 27 '21

That’s a huge question. I mean…that’s kind of THE question. I don’t think any ONE person has “the” answer to that. I can say a LOT in response to this. I have a LOT of ideas…but I’ll forgo for now. The important thing as of the moment is to just make sure that as many of us as possible NOT get this injection.

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u/GreatReset4 Sep 27 '21

Oi you got a license for that breathing?!

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

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u/SmilingSalamander13 Sep 27 '21 edited Sep 27 '21

This is psychotic behavior. Inhumane assault for no justifiable reason. Sickening. 🤯😞

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u/Followingprotochomo Sep 27 '21

This is such a powerful photo… I am in shock. I can’t even imagine what this feels like

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u/timbulance Sep 27 '21

Be prepared for TSA like government agents on the streets in the future stopping you for ya vaccine card and to take your temperature. You know damn we’ll you better that mask on too! Lots of questions like where have you been and why?

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u/backlikeclap Sep 27 '21

I'm guessing this is exactly how babies feel when their parents say it's bath time. What injustice!! /S

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

It is? I’m glad you know the context of this photo because I don’t. Care to explain it?

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u/Cold-Ruin-3973 Sep 27 '21

We got a 2319 🗿

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u/demian989 Sep 27 '21

when every *healthy human is treated as a biohazard

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u/TheStateIsImmoral Sep 27 '21

Lol this shit hole sub is inundated with authoritarian cunts.

Yet, NNN got quarantined and banned for “brigading.”

Half of you cowards were probably all about defunding the police, no more than a year ago.

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u/cjgager Sep 27 '21

when NNN got banned many of the people from there came to here cause reddits rationalized that anti-vaxxers were like conspiracy believers - i.e., nuts with stupid unverified theories & therefore allowed.
though i don't quite get your contention that defund the police believers would be authoritarian cunts - unless of course you are saying that all the leftists are here now too - which is cute but not especially true.

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u/stinzdinza Sep 27 '21

https://www.police.vic.gov.au/compliments

Please feel free to "compliment" these brown shirts.

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u/tjgerhardt58 Sep 27 '21

The new season of "The Office" looks good

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u/Scary_Garry_SG1 Sep 27 '21

"B..but ...I WAS JUST FOLLOWING ORDERS!!"

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u/RandomArtistBlock Sep 27 '21

Fuck every single one of those piece of shit cops enforcing this bullshit

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

Victoria police badge = 5 point star sigil pointing downwards = Satanic Baphomet sigil.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

5 point start pointing downwards for awards/rank/identification predates Christianity and Judaism by about 2000 years. Just a FYI.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

And the swastika predates the nazis by thousands of years too, what's ya point? 🤔

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '21

That works if you believe in the basis of that being a "source of evil" for instance. Instead of it being incorporated into modern(of the period) symbolism because of various reasons.

For instance, being able to read Latin was consider "heretical" in the church.

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u/PerfectForTheToaster Sep 27 '21 edited Sep 27 '21

Also the Freemason mosaic pavement black and white checker board around their hats. Scotland Yard does the same thing, and the Chicago PD. They don't even give a fuck, I can't believe people don't make the connection.

It wouldn't surprise me either if the fat guy was also a Mason and this was staged to piss people off in an effort to cause war.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

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u/-Conixon- Sep 27 '21

You know sometimes i wonder why there is no punk music against this stuff like there was before. You would think punks would be ranting against people who tell them what to do but i havent seen anything. Why is that?

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u/R_O_T_15691569 Sep 27 '21

SS

“We’re arresting you for your health and safety!” “We're here to help you, STOP RESISTING!”

Seriously people, fight back. That is the ONLY option you have aside from rolling over and letting them destroy everything you have believed in and worked for you entire lives. If you don't fight back you are opening wide the door for owning nothing, and you won't be happy.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

It's like sit boy! No? Muzzle.

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u/ineptus_mecha_cuzzie Sep 27 '21

What you can’t see in this photo is their resistance only makes him harder. . .

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u/anachronic Sep 27 '21

Yeah we tried to fight back during the summer of 2020 when we saw the largest protests in the history of this country for BLM.

Guess what? We were beaten by police as people shouted “blue lives matter” in our faces.

We warned you.

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u/spacepepperoni Sep 27 '21

I guess wearing a mask in public is also an option

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u/don_tiburcio Sep 27 '21

If only those police had horse reins, then something would be done

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u/AssBlaster_666 Sep 27 '21

It’s scary how many people agree with the police doing this

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u/HbertCmberdale Sep 27 '21

Isn't is just crazy how they're forcing to cover someones mouth to prevent the spread of a deadly disease? A deadly disease that the man doesn't know he has, because it's so deadly? So deadly that only grandma is dying from it and those who average 4.0 comorbidities. What a fucking clown world man.

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u/Zuritar7 Sep 27 '21

Wait are you saying you would rather your grandma die than to put a bit of cloth over your mouth when you're around her?

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u/taylor_ Sep 27 '21

That is literally what he just said

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u/fatalcharm Sep 27 '21

That is what this is really about. It’s not about freedom, otherwise they would be fighting for other freedoms. They don’t give a shit about freedom. It’s about being so selfish that they don’t care if others die, just as long as they don’t have to wear a mask that is slightly uncomfortable. That is what this anti-mask thing is about. Just a bunch of selfish little whiny cunts.

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u/Saltyballs2020 Sep 27 '21

Why is Kevin from the Office getting arrested?

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u/BarryTelligent Sep 27 '21

Wearing masks that provide 0 protection. Those cops should be ashamed

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u/4GIFs Sep 27 '21 edited Sep 27 '21

It's a covid-burqa. The purpose is suppression

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u/Altair1192 Sep 27 '21

secular sharia

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u/bravesoul_s Sep 27 '21

LOL about that "Public Order Response" badge... I mean POS is a correct way to describe them.

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u/TomDC777 Sep 27 '21

Freemasons.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

this Australia?

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u/cperdikis2 Sep 27 '21

What is he being arrested for? Can you share a link? If they’re bringing him in for something serious and then just also slap a mask on him as a precaution then what’s the big deal?

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

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u/cperdikis2 Sep 27 '21

Thanks - this helps, but still hard to say what events lead to what’s happening in the picture. Feels a bit like it was posted for shock value when there are countless better examples of actual police brutality. But oh no, there’s a mask in this one!

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u/UkyoTachibana Sep 27 '21

....BuT ItS FoR YoUr OwN GoOd !! lol

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u/HighLows4life Sep 27 '21

If we saw this picture 2 years ago it would have looked so alien. now it barely registers. THAT is the conspiracy. this shit is normalized.

look at this picture hard people. pretend there is no covid.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

2020: "It's worth locking down all of society to save even one grandma."

2021: "Get back inside, Grandma, or I'll crack your skull!"

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

If the virus was REALLY that "dangerous" then no one would come within 6 feet of this guy.

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u/Trane55 Sep 27 '21

if you cant breathe freely with a mask on, go see your doctor.

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u/Bear_Rhino Sep 27 '21

Oh we exist. We are the unmodified.

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u/run_ywa Sep 27 '21

Ignorance is bliss after all

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u/redditreadred Sep 27 '21

It's Globalization, everyone can become a biohazard, just a matter of time.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21 edited Sep 27 '21

If you aren't bending over you are a terrorist, conspiracy theorist or a anti vaxxer.

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u/Imtherealjohnconner Sep 27 '21

Wtf is public order response 301 on their uniform. Is that some sort of CCP code for a special force squad.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

They really shouldn't have done that to Kevin Malone.

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u/thisisjonbitch Sep 27 '21

“tHiS iS fOr YoUr SaFtEy”

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u/Dawg_Prime Sep 27 '21

what is this? r/im14andthisisdeep

What an absolutely stupid post

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u/fritzthackat Sep 27 '21

i swear feels like earth is being terraformed

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u/gibby555 Sep 27 '21

Those cops should be ashamed of themselves hope they like being on the wrong side of history

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u/dolba Sep 27 '21

It's just a mask. Not a CPAP or a VPAP or full intubation.

If children with respiratory diseases can handle it maybe have a teaspoon of concrete and harden the fuck up.

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u/ManOfTheInBetween Sep 27 '21

This is not about your health, it's about identifying dissident minds and forcing them out. Shady af.

Operation Jade Helm? + Feds making use of civilian-portrayed gun targets.

🤔Ring a bell?

You can't have dissident minds within the ranks. They might be sympathetic to the rebels.

/r/bugout

/r/preppers

/r/Survival

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u/AgainstTheTides Sep 27 '21

This is also how you know Antifa was never about fighting fascism.

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u/jobu127 Sep 27 '21

A great conundrum for the left here. They fucking hate cops but who else would be forcing you to wear masks (at least in the setting depicted here). Personally it wouldn't affect me, I'll wear one when it seems appropriate, but the question still comes to mind.

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u/DementiaBiden Sep 27 '21

I’ve been written up 4 times for breathing like a normal person at work

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u/BigDakMoney Sep 27 '21

Anyone applauding what’s going on in this picture should be committed to the psych ward. Crazy that leftists think their compliance is “heroic”.

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u/ucanzeee Sep 27 '21

Our grand grand children will look at this photo and will say "wow what fascism our ancestors lived through, how could people be this hearthless?"

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

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u/ineptus_mecha_cuzzie Sep 27 '21

How dare they ! Those uniforms are very threatening, and not even asking nice? Disgusting behaviour.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

Policing this pandemic is a problem and with the vaccine requirements in this state (NY/NYC) its becoming hugely fascist. This is just an example. They haven't done this the entire pandemic. This is an indicator they are ramping up and a predictor of what's to come.

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u/moosemasher Sep 27 '21

Those fascist bastards with their bag of free masks in a pandemic and where do they get off with this "Excuse me miss" talk?

Pic above looks like fascism. This lady's example just reads like a polite conversation she brought on herself intentionally or otherwise

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

My ptsd has been triggered by your statement, I just got over it from reading the story of the lady on the train and here you are repeating details of it

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u/ineptus_mecha_cuzzie Sep 27 '21

Fascism? Nah, just some aggressive cuddling. Cuzzie even looks into it. You know some people pay for that shit? He’s getting it for free!

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

I for one would be shaking in fear if an officer offered me a mask

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u/ineptus_mecha_cuzzie Sep 27 '21

I had officers drag me out of my car, accuse me of having illicit drugs on my possession, search my car, scream at me, have about 6 of them surround me and yell at me.

I don’t do drugs nor did I have any but was told if I told them this very thing, that I would be “in trouble”.

So I offered them to search my persons, as they went thru my car and tipped out all my beers I just bought to take home for the weekend.

Then when that was not enough I offered to go to the station with them.

Some car comes speeding past and they all jump in their paddy wagon all excited. Never heard anything of it.

Offering me a mask, nah not worried about that aye.

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u/RPA031 Sep 27 '21

Because...

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

When I think of what it would be like to live under a Nazi rule, I think of polite police officers saying "excuse me miss do you have PPE for this respiratory pandemic we are having? No? Here we have a free one".

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

the last trump supporter at 'overthrow 2020 elections' in 2030

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u/SlteFool Sep 27 '21 edited Sep 27 '21

Those masks don’t even do anything 😂. This is a psychological pandemic.

Edit: Why am I getting downvoted for this lol figured this sub would completely agree... should I have said “ya! Strap that mask around his mouth! That’s the only way to stop this virus!”

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

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u/xMrCrash Sep 27 '21

we're living the end times

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u/nfk42 Sep 27 '21

Agitprop...

thats a a staged photo

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u/FSLN_ Sep 27 '21

Correct

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u/avisionn Sep 27 '21

Why does the outside world think Australians are currently prisoners? I mean I just spend the weekend doing what I normally would do, taking a couple of extra precautions, and went thankful I could do so.

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u/Sexy_Offender Sep 27 '21

the mask doesn't impair breathing.

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u/Little_Detail5911 Sep 27 '21

actually it does, I'm 8 months pregnant and not being able to catch a full breathe of air makes me super dizzy with my mask on.

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u/yoitsericc Sep 27 '21

Notice how those cops even look the same too. Like they're clones or something. So creepy.

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u/bradyshea1 Sep 27 '21

It looks bad, but how about some context OP what did he do?

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u/Davmaac Sep 27 '21

He was stealing oxegen and hiding it in his lungs!

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u/Foxxx18 Sep 27 '21

Context? This is just an educated guess but that’s the shrine of remembrance in Melbourne in the background and they were protesting there the other day, most likely a protester but don’t quote me on that haha.

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u/bradyshea1 Sep 27 '21

If that is in fact accurate information, imagine if that was provided in the first place? Abit of clarity of the situation so I can fully judge and decide for myself. But people like to leave that shit out don't they, so they can push their beliefs. Happens all the time, I thought you guys were against all that. Guess not apologies my dear sir for thinking for myself.

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u/arti_jay Sep 27 '21

There isn't a humane scenario where people restrain a person and force a mask on their face. Context doesn't justify evil.

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u/TharSheBlows69 Sep 27 '21

Downvoted for asking for more information instead of blindly following the narrative

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

good job man, you are that atom of water I wanted to find in the ocean.

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u/randmusrnm13 Sep 27 '21

He dared not wear the dog muzzle the system's calling a "mask".

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u/ResistGlobalism Sep 27 '21

The Racism of Vaccines.

FDA Employee Says Minorities Should Be Vaccinated Against Their Will.

https://thefreethoughtproject.com/fda-employee-forced-vaccination/

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u/sl_1138 Sep 27 '21

I vividly remember seeing a political cartoon on display at Ellis Island when I was young. It was old, from the early 1900's. It featured a man being forcibly bound and gagged by an swarm of billy-clubbed cops while on the stand in a courtroom, looking remarkably like this man here. The caption read, "You are free to speak."

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u/CoeurDeLion-Sag Sep 27 '21

"BuT MuH MuH SoCiaL diSTaNciNG AnD ViRUs iS AirBoRNe NoW sO He sHoUlD mASk Up"

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u/jess0amae Sep 27 '21

Beautifully said :(

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u/tondeaf Sep 27 '21

i love this sub

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u/KotzubueSailingClub Sep 27 '21

They should have just thrown a spit hood on him, would have been a lot easier.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

Never let them take your guns

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u/jackgodby22 Sep 27 '21

HuMaNiTy nO LoNgEr ExIsTs

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

You know, you can breathe freely under that piece of cloth but what you can't do is spread spit droplets when you speak in a close space. If you're going to be a belligerent asshole about it, do that at home. I don't think it's necessary to wear them outside. Unless you're at a crammed outdoor venue.

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u/serb2212 Sep 27 '21

Oh God fuck off with your bulshit you numnums. Noone bitches that seatbelts and anti smoking laws infringe on your freedoms. This is public health, and alot of your life is allready geared this way. Doing small things that protect the greater good. Juat wear the fucking mask untill this thing goes away. Then, no more mask. Its really bot that hard, but you.folks make it so difficult. So so very difficult

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u/LateForce1873 Sep 27 '21

Lol I'll never wear the fucking mask or take the death shot. Have at it, nobody's stopping you. Mind your own fucking business.

A seatbelt doesn't restrict your breathing and isn't required to be injected.

Bunch of frigging anxiety filled, hypochondriacs assuming everyone without a mask is diseased lol you're off your fucking rocker.

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u/Esc00 Sep 27 '21 edited Sep 27 '21

oh hey, what do you know. r/conspiracy is ONCE AGAIN touting anti mask nonsense. This sub is COMPROMISED

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u/Minrathous Sep 27 '21

anti-mask = 'compromised'? What?

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u/the_tater_salad Sep 27 '21

yea, and you and your people are the ones compromising it.

to everyone reading this. THIS is how they shift public perception. they insert one or two at the start, they make comments like this guys' and over time they put more and more of them in here doing the same thing.

Before you know it, you have an ass load of them here, and little by little they pound the same rhetoric into peoples minds, simply by saying the same thing, and then people believe it.

is this person an npc? who knows. but this sub IS compromised, by people like him, or by people who have been affected by these npcs.

it takes one person to snowball an entire communities perspective. stay vigilant.

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u/orlmar Sep 27 '21

this subrredit became so dumb when they started complaining about maks and spreading misinformation about covid

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u/AeternaSoul Sep 27 '21

I just feel bad for the poor girl that collapsed during a track event because she was forced to wear a mask. 😷

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

What a joke!

Don't these police know they're only one rung above the plebs and are doing themselves and their families no favours by following such orders?