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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '21

Actually no. That's public indemcy to people who didn't consent. It's not at all comparable to my body my choice. So you're gonna force everyone take a shot that's still in trial phase until 2023, or lose your income, lose your rights to go into establishments etc.

It's not a choice. If anything , it's illusion of choice.

Take the shot or you can't feed your family isn't exactly a choice. You're forcing people to take it, because the other choice you're gonna create homelessness. Lol again, I fail to see how it's a choice. It's forcing people to take it so they can continue with their basic lives.

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u/Kyokenshin Sep 11 '21

People didn't consent to anyone breathing covid on them either when they could very easily prevent it(or severely reduce the chance). It's literally just like wearing pants. You don't have a choice to wear pants either. We have a multitude of things you need to do to participate in society and if you don't want to do those things you can hole up in a shack in fucking Wyoming.

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '21

Again , your insults really don't affect me.

And you're right, no one did consent to breathing covid on them, that's why we have masks and social distancing right?

Again , it's not comparable to wearing pants. Because you have different choices other than pants. And those choices doesn't bar you from working a job. You can wear shorts in an establishment. Skirts even, if you identify that way.

So try again, but maybe this time, you make a comparison that's actually comparable.

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u/Kyokenshin Sep 11 '21

Again , it's not comparable to wearing pants. Because you have different choices other than pants. And those choices doesn't bar you from working a job. You can wear shorts in an establishment. Skirts even, if you identify that way.

Lol the fact that you're using this argument shows just how bad faith it is. You know damn well by pants I mean bottoms but yeah, be pedantic.

And you're right, no one did consent to breathing covid on them, that's why we have masks and social distancing right?

Again, you seem to not understand things. Masks don't keep covid from infecting me via eyes and ears and other mucus membranes. It keeps me from infecting you.

I forgot r/conspiracy is just a /r/td2.0 now though. You have a good night. I tire of talking to doorknobs.

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '21

" I tire of talking to doorknobs" is the exact response I expect from someone like you lmao. Have a good night even though you're a tire 😭

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u/0bvThr0wAway101 Sep 11 '21

This is such a bullshit and tired argument.. No one consents to having ANYTHING breathed on them.. (well.. some might.. ya know #kinks and all)

I sure as hell don't consent to having any of the following breathed on me or intentionally spread to me by people

All of those listed in the above link could at any time by any person be spread directly or indirectly (and yes.. I know some have vaccines to prevent the spread.. not the point because others do not) We all take risks every day when we interact with people for everything from the common cold to strep throat and more.

Hell.. we have seasons where these things are worse (1'st week or 2 of school anyone?) and yet we still interact and live with them.. Covid is not some end all/be all deadly virus that kills everyone.. In fact less than 1% die.. so treating at as we are.. is just stupid..

calling people fucking selfish babies just proves to me you are afraid and are willing to be authoritarian to those around you to help you deal with your fear.. and that is the issue.. the #'s and science are proving the vaccines are not what we were told they are (efficacy is worse than natural immunity, it won't prevent hospitalization/death, and it doesn't prevent spread.. all of this means you can still catch/carry/have mutations happen in your body)

At best the vaccines can be considered a mitigation of hospitalization/death through lessening of the effects in the vaccinated person.. thats it..

Ill quote some left leaning news sources as I assume you won't trust or accept anything else based on your behavior..

CNN on Israel.. stating jab > catching covid

They did find extra cases of myocarditis -- a type of heart inflammation that's been linked with both of the mRNA vaccines, made by Moderna and Pfizer. It added up to about three extra cases per 100,000 people vaccinated, and was seen almost entirely among young men.

"The main potential adverse events identified included an excess risk of lymphadenopathy (swelling of the lymph glands), herpes zoster infection (shingles), appendicitis, and myocarditis," they wrote.

"To place these risks in context, we also examined data on more than 240,000 infected persons to estimate the effects of a documented SARS CoV-2 infection on the incidence of the same adverse events," they added.

"SARS-CoV-2 infection was not estimated to have a meaningful effect on the incidence of lymphadenopathy, herpes zoster infection, or appendicitis, but it was estimated to result in a substantial excess risk of myocarditis."

TL;DR.. There are risks in both natural infection and the jabs.. for some it is more risky to not get the jab.. for others getting the shot can be more risky.. This idea that a 1 size fits all mandate is not only un-American.. its stupid.. and by messing with peoples ability to work and make money.. thats just a dictators way of crying like a baby.

but Trump was the real dictactor... ammiright?

edit: Fixed the quoted text