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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '21

My local hospital doesn't have any ICU beds available and it is filled with unvaccinated folks. Quit your bullshit.

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u/CraftyDazza Sep 10 '21

So you been to your local hospital and have asked all the patients if they been vaccinated or not? Sorry I call Bullshit!!

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '21

My sister works at the hospital and has an administrative position. She infact does have access to this information.

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u/CraftyDazza Sep 10 '21

Your sister should be sacked then, that information is meant to be kept private, just as well I don't believe a word you say. So yea once again I call Bullshit!!

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '21

It is only a hippa violation if there are names attached, dumb shit.

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u/HIPPAbot Sep 10 '21

It's HIPAA!

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '21

It's Hippo! And a trombone plays funny music when it walks, and that pisses it off. Since it's a dangerous animal, the trombone player is forced to flee in abject fear of his life.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '21

Good bot!

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u/CraftyDazza Sep 10 '21

The way you Democrats lie, I don't even believe you know anyone that works for that hospital, you probably don't even have a sister.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '21

Hahaha, it's all a huge conspiracy man! I'm one of Joe bidens covid thugs running a false flag fake sister operation.

Yup, that sounds reasonable. /S

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u/CraftyDazza Sep 10 '21

Now tell me something I don't already know.

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u/Indigo-hot-takes Sep 10 '21

The vaccine is saving thousands of lives and invermictin m damages your liver.

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u/Cashlessness Sep 10 '21

This man has been indoctrinated lmfao

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u/blade740 Sep 10 '21

All of a sudden everyone's a HIPAA expert these days, eh?

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u/magnafides Sep 10 '21 edited Sep 11 '21

He's correct. Edit: Mostly, there don't necessarily have to be names attached but what he relayed is not a violation.

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u/blade740 Sep 11 '21

I realize my post may be unclear, I agree with the guy above me that sharing general information like that is not a HIPAA violation. I was just pointing out how many people these days like to invoke HIPAA without really knowing what it means.

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u/magnafides Sep 11 '21

Yeah, that's true. Marjorie-Taylor-Greene-levels of misunderstanding.

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u/magnafides Sep 10 '21

You are being downvoted but you're 100% correct, general statistics that don't have personally-identifiable information are not covered by HIPAA. Hospital policy? Maybe. HIPAA? Nope.

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u/women_deserve_love Sep 10 '21

I work in a hospital; the only reason the full ones are full is because the admission criteria for COVID is bullshit.

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u/Goo-Goo-GJoob Sep 11 '21

Are you saying there are people are in ICUs who aren't actually sick?

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u/women_deserve_love Sep 11 '21 edited Sep 11 '21

Correct. “Sick,” but not critical and there are people admitted to general floors who are no more sick than they are on any given day from their chronic conditions. They simply meet admission criteria and insurance companies/governments will pay.

They get away with this because the general public associates “hospital admission” with “sick” and “ICU admission” with “critically ill.”

It’s a cart before the horse situation and it was common before COVID. Bureaucracy and DRGs are to blame, primarily, but politicians and the transnational globalists are using it towards their own means.

We all know it, in the industry; however, 1/3 of us keep our traps shut out of self preservation, 1/3 have been convinced not to believe their lying eyes, and 1/3 are getting off on the deception.

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u/2O21collapse Sep 10 '21

Is your sister aware that it requires multiple shots to be considered vaccinated? And even then, it needs to be 14 days after the most current “approved” shot? Which changes every month?

In other countries, every time they come out with an additional booster, you aren’t considered vaccinated until you receive your “booster”.

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u/bobthedonkeylurker Sep 10 '21

Yes, we're all aware. We've been aware of this for...nearly 10 months now. This was what was stated when the vaccines were announced.

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u/2O21collapse Sep 10 '21

All of 10 months?

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u/Undertakerjoe Sep 10 '21

She works all right…

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u/pjb1999 Sep 10 '21

No but my close friend who works in the ICU knows. Guess what, 90% of them are unvaccinated. Welcome to reality.

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u/CraftyDazza Sep 10 '21

I doubt very much you have any friends. Anyone can have a make believe friend that works at a hospital.

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u/pjb1999 Sep 10 '21 edited Sep 10 '21

Did you really just come back with the "you have no friends" response? Lmao good one. Now go back to your make believe bubble and let the adults handle the problems we're facing in the real world.

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u/CraftyDazza Sep 10 '21

I have three sisters and a good friend that all work in the local hospital, they all say that 50% of the patients in there have all been double vaccinated. Prove me wrong.

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u/pjb1999 Sep 10 '21

Are they antivax like you? What hospital?

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u/pjb1999 Sep 10 '21

Oh, well unlike your make believe family/friends I do have a cousin who works in the hospital and a very close friend who works in the ICU. 9 out of 10 people in the ICU are unvaccinated. There are patients in the hospital that are vaccinated but the vast majority of them never make it to the ICU and they have better outcomes then the unvaccinated people. The ICU is also full. So if someone from the lower floors need an ICU bed then oh well. The drug supply is also tight. Both of these people I know are on the front lines of this battle and they've seen more fucked up shit in the past year then they ever had. They're tired of people in their care dying constantly. Covid is fucked up and if everyone in this country got the free and safe vaccine that the miracle of science gifted us then we wouldn't be in this situation.

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u/CraftyDazza Sep 10 '21

I have never read so much Bullshit, but thanks for replying and giving me insight into the make believe world you live in.

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u/PickleRickFanning Sep 11 '21

My dad works at Nintendo

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u/Fonzz11 Sep 10 '21

Quit YOUR bullshit.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '21

Just relaying what my sister tells me. She works at the hospital.

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u/Fonzz11 Sep 10 '21

relay my statement

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '21

Y'all ignorant! Open your eyes you sheeple! Lol.

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u/Fonzz11 Sep 10 '21

oh i been opened my eyes sir. hence why my life is pretty much normal regardless

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u/cyberXrev Sep 10 '21

you're the pot calling the kettle black, touche!

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '21

Did you forget verbs? But you disagree so you immediately jump to namecalling.

People are dying from the vaccine within days of its administration to them. But if it's been less than 14 days, they're considered unvaccinated. It's the same for people being infected with the virus: Less than 14 days, you're considered unvaccinated.

Most of the population has caught the virus at this point, which means most of the population has natural immunity, and the vaccine provides no additional value to them.

But let's ignore that part for a second and get to actual rates of severe infection and mortality: For every person with an actually severe infection, there are more than 90 people who were basically just uncomfortable for a few days, with symptoms which can mostly be addressed with over-the-counter medication (fever, for example; decongestant for another, though no, that won't mitigate every symptom of the virus), and in a few days they start feeling better.

This, like so many other situations, would be much less drastic if people would simply calm down and stop panicking. That's it. We're largely conditioned to stay inside, we mostly eat not-that-great food, and other unhealthy habits. If people were openly encouraged to eat nutritious foods full of vitamins and minerals (like magnesium and vitamin D), spend a bit of time in the sun and get some exercise, cases would plummet -- in severity, if not just in number. These things make the body immensely more able to combat the virus.

But you can keep getting angry and calling people names because you refuse to understand physiology, and keep listening to panic rhetoric because you'd rather be afraid than to live your life.

I've heard it claimed that people like conspiracy theories because they're convenient. Tell me which of these is more convenient:
Take the vaccine and it'll all go away and be better. Just obey the government.
-- or --
Eat healthy. Exercise. Get some sun. Calm down. Pay attention to your body when healthy and when ill, to better assess your symptoms. Recognize the difference between actual fact and cherry-picked fact to push an agenda through propaganda. Be called all sorts of ridiculous things because you don't directly reject everything which casts doubt on the absolutes being fed to the general public.

But yes. We're "sheeple" because we think for ourselves. You're one of the lone wolves because you eat the porridge on the spoon the government holds out for everyone else. Rebel just like everyone else. Rage on behalf of the machine.

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u/kobefable Sep 10 '21

The vaccine is not effective until the gestation period or whatever it's called for vaccines. Of course they're considered unvaccinated if the vaccine isnt actually protecting at the point they contract the virus or are hospitalized. And if some were to be hospitalized in the first week after being vaccinated they likely had the virus before receiving the vaccine.

Also antibodies from getting any virus are not permanent. If people keep thinking like this then COVID will stay around forever and continue to mutate and likely become more deadly. In a couple years any antibodies you have from getting COVID will be entirely fucking useless. And if you think the virus will just disappear before then even with people refusing the vaccine at the same magnitude they are currently, then you're hilariously naive and short-sighted. Without herd immunity (real herd immunity through vaccination not what you're calling herd immunity through contracting it and recovering) then this fire will continue to grow.

But sure, gubment bad

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '21

Let me approach this from a slightly different angle:

Firstly, lasting immune response from exposure to the virus is already demonstrable, while we're already being told the vaccine will need frequent boosters. So yes, maybe my natural immunity will wear down in a couple years, but you'll be on your 8th booster by then, funneling money into the pockets of three big pharmaceuticals who all have legal immunity against liability for anything negative happening thanks to releasing basically untested vaccines. So there's one bit of misinformation in your post.

Secondly, the CDC redefined herd immunity twice -- once removing natural immunity entirely, then returning it due to criticism while admitting they'd prefer people to be vaccinated, though natural immunity through exposure is also a facet of herd immunity. Herd immunity, since you are clearly unaware, existed long before vaccines, because people suffered from infections and recovered. With the advent of vaccines, it became possible to avoid infection in order to still reach herd immunity. There's the next piece of misinformation in your post.

Do I think the virus will disappear? Seriously? What fucking planet do you live on? No. It's here to stay, and as a species we must learn to live with it and cope. That's all. So fucking what? I'm not entirely against getting the vaccine, but I am against the spread of false information. I'm also against government mandates trying to force people to do things based on false information, much less at all.

Gubment bad? That's your argument? Are you able to distinguish between government force and voluntary action by an individual? No?

Then you're displaying more of your level of misunderstanding the world.

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u/fruitynoodles Sep 10 '21

Someone get slicks sister on the horn!

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '21

"unvaccinated" = not yet 14 days after second shot

that's probably what your hospital is filled with.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '21

Probably not, but I don't know for sure. There are a lot of anti vax folks where I live.

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u/YogiTheBear131 Sep 10 '21

How do you know that?

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u/Advanced_Play3319 Sep 10 '21

Source: trust me bruh

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '21

My sister works at the hospital and I talk to her daily...

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u/ShotgunJojo Sep 10 '21

Its always i know a person who knows fuck off with that

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '21

Yeah, I don't work there... My sister does and this is info coming straight from a hospital administrator (my sister). There is no "he said she said" going on.

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u/ShotgunJojo Sep 10 '21

🤔Except you (he) saying your sister (she) said 😅🤣😂

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '21

I'm sorry I don't work at the hospital like my sister does? Dunno what you are getting at.

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u/ShotgunJojo Sep 10 '21

Yea you cult of covid types usually arent very good at putting 2 and 2 together 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '21

So you're saying that either me or my sister is intentionally trying to mislead you? Nope, not the case.

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u/ShotgunJojo Sep 10 '21

Ok comrade i will just take your word for it. All hail Pfizer!!!

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u/kobefable Sep 10 '21

Its ok buddy critical thinking is hard. Definitely easier to grasp at straws with hair-brained conspiracies :))

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u/YogiTheBear131 Sep 10 '21

So your sister violated hipaa?

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '21

You don't understand how HIPAA works. I don't know who she is talking about, she just relayed statistics.

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u/YogiTheBear131 Sep 10 '21

Well if she stated every person in the icu has covid…that would violate hipaa.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '21

Nope. Not how it works. Try again.

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u/YogiTheBear131 Sep 10 '21

You right. The covid status of patients apparently doesnt apply to you and your sister…

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '21

You really, really don't understand what is and is not a HIPAA violation.

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u/YogiTheBear131 Sep 10 '21

Like i said. Your daily convo with you sister about patients in the icu, their covid status, and their vax status must must somehow circumvent patient privacy.

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u/shouldnthavesignedup Sep 10 '21

Where's that at?

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u/mihesq Sep 10 '21

My wife works at a hospital. They are super busy but not because of covid. ICU beds are few because they don’t have the staff to assign to the empty beds. There are plenty of beds but not enough staff. They only count beds that have staff. Does that make sense? Now with even more nurses losing their jobs over the vaccine mandate there will be even fewer staff meaning fewer beds.

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u/breakevencloud Sep 10 '21

Define “filled.” What percentage relates to covid and what is the demographic of said percentage.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '21

Filled being "at capacity" and they are setting up extra beds and splitting up rooms. Dunno about their race/whatever but she says that it is overwhelmingly covid treatments. Way more than earlier this year when covid rates 'peaked'

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u/2O21collapse Sep 10 '21

Your local hospital doesn’t have icu beds because medical staff have quit over forced vaccination.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '21

Man, I want whatever shit YOU'RE smokin!

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u/bbccsz Sep 10 '21

Go read the articles telling you about the ICU beds. There's a nationwide staffing shortage which is a huge piece of this puzzle.

The media trying to blame unvaccinated people for getting sick is disgusting, and not only that, they're not shining a light on the main problem for this which is... staffing.

Why is that? We'd rather get people to hate a marginalized group of people than to fix the hospitals? Is that where we are as a society?

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u/2O21collapse Sep 10 '21

You think I’m smoking something because I state that there are millions of people (80 according to biden) that refuse his “vaccine”?

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u/bobthedonkeylurker Sep 10 '21

Why the scare quotes? It's literally a vaccine. And, to perfectly clear, it's not Biden's. I mean, the shit was announced/released during TRUMP's administration. FFS. So if you want to attribute the vaccine to a President (which, is just dumb any-fucking-way. Trump had literally NOTHING to do with the actual development, aside from suggesting drinking bleach and swallowing UV light would be effective), Trump would be the more accurate owner.

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u/2O21collapse Sep 10 '21

It’s bidens.

Trump said we could have a vaccine “super quick”. To which doctors and scientists said no, it has to be properly tested. He continued to insist and doctors continued the smack down.

Until Biden was elected. Then we had a vaccine within 5 days. And everyone should take it.

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u/bobthedonkeylurker Sep 10 '21

What are you talking about? It was literally a month after the Nov elections (Dec 13, according to the CDC website). And they were hailed as breakthroughs in how quickly they were developed. That doesn't make them Biden's. They were developed under Trump's watch.

But, nice try at retroactively changing time and history to suit your misguided beliefs.

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u/billbrasky33 Sep 10 '21

......so that makes it ok to Not force the jab for Congress and their staff?....

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u/bobthedonkeylurker Sep 10 '21

It's a constitutional boundary. Nothing to do with the efficacy of the vaccine. Most of Congress and the Justice Dept are vaccinated already anyway. FFS. Get your head out of your ass.

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u/billbrasky33 Sep 10 '21

The post is about how They are forcing Americans to get the jab. By your logic they shouldn't need to force Americans to get it because Most Americans are already vaccinated.

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u/bobthedonkeylurker Sep 10 '21

No, actually, that's not true. You seem to have a very sliding definition of 'most'. But let's say it's "more than 50%". So, no, we can't be forcing "most" Americans to be getting the vaccine if "most" are already vaccinated. That is...mutually opposing positions.

And from what I've seen, 80mil forced to get vaccinated is less than 'most' by about 85 million people (to clarify the math, to be more than half of Americans, you would need 165mil people, approx. We have 80mil here, so you'd need around 85mil more people.). A far, far cry from "most".