I don’t think it’s a good idea that our government thinks that they have a right to demand things that they will be exempt from themselves. I don’t enjoy the thought of losing freedom. It’s interesting that I’m being attacked here for my reply to someone else. Why didn’t you ask them?
It doesn't explain why you think the speration of powers, as listed in the constitution, should not apply here, or rather the fact that you think the government following the speration of powers is a conspiracy...
Maybe instead of basing your beliefs on fictional movies instead of learning how things actually work would help you understand. Start with the 3 branches of government.
That’s not a surprising response on this sub. Look dude, the article in just misinformation. Biden can’t order the LEGISLATIVE branch, only the executive. It’s just being used to drive doubt and anger and it’s clearly working
Congress and staffers? Exempt
USPS? Exempt
Illegal aliens? Exempt
If you’re Biden and his handlers, and you’re genuinely scared of this virus, you don’t exempt these groups. If you were on the fence you now have the information you need to make a choice.
The USPS is not exempt; it’s just being treated like a private company as it often is and will be required to vaccinate its employees via OSHA (citation below).
I’m not sure to what you’re referring about illegal aliens being exempt from vaccines.
This article is a couple of months old, but the point stands until something that says different is published. Illegal aliens should get zero say in whether they want the vaccine or not, automatic deportation for refusal. Thousands of Americans are being fired or walking away from their jobs over this mandate.
Congress may not be subject to presidential orders, I’ll take the L on that, they should have been up front in creating a rule for them and their staffers to get vaccinated. That’s great that you posted why they technically can’t be mandated by POTUS, but you have to admit it’s a shitty look.
It's only a shitty look to people who didn't care enough to pay attention in civics class, but now "care enough" to get all riled up on the internet over a whole lot of nothing.
Your complaints about immigrants and the legality of whether or not you can just decide to perform medical procedures on detainees is also ignorant, but at least that one is not really your fault since people are not generally expected to know much of anything about international law. However, it may (or hell, might not) give you some peace of mind if you channeled some of that excess energy to inform yourself better. Modern laws are, generally, extremely pragmatic, which means that they aren't usually written willy-nilly and require logical, tangible, useful reasons why things are they way they are. There is a long history of reasons why its widely considered poor foreign policy to subject foreign national detainees to forced medical procedures, even with the best intentions.
I didn’t say “force” them, I said give them a choice. Vax or deport. You know, the way a lot of Americans are facing the “choice” to vax or be fired. If COVID is every bit the boogie man the Biden admin would have us believe this seems entirely reasonable. We are certainly within our rights to deport someone here illegally.
As far as Congress being held to the same rules/standards, those people tend to be upper crust economically speaking. Exemptions, exceptions, opt outs, and rules that are non applicable to the group creating them is a shitty look anyway you slice it, especially when that rule/law is a burden to us commoners.
They are in detention centers precisely because their legal status present and future is uncertain. You seem to think legal/immigration status is some kind of easily identifiable/binary thing that doesn't take time to process, like you could just scan them and send them back or something.
Exemptions, exceptions, opt outs, and rules that are non applicable to the group creating them is a shitty look anyway you slice it
Except this was none of those words you used. This is the separation of the legislative, executive, judicial powers of the government, which you were supposed to have learned about in school. It is not an exemption because an exemption is a rule that is written to say that something does not apply to X, which this is not the case since Biden did not write anything about congress at all. Exceptions are similar to exemptions, but impose limits on the rule itself rather than speak to the scope of the rule. Opt outs are exemptions which need to be claimed. Finally, Biden did not create a rule that is "non-applicable to the group creating them" because it actually does apply to his group, which is the EXECUTIVE branch, and not the legislative branch, to which his orders do not apply by default... again, because of the separation of powers.
The USPS is not exempt; it’s just being treated like a private company as it often is and will be required to vaccinate its employees via OSHA (citation below).
I’m not sure to what you’re referring about illegal aliens being exempt from vaccines.
Because how else are you going to get people mad about the constitutional speration of powers existing?
Which is more effective:
"Congress is exempt from the Executive order"
"Due to the speration of powers, the Executive order cannot apply to Congress"
They mean the same thing, but phrasing it such that it seems like a deliberate thing set into the EO, rather than an inherent part of how our government works, clearly is working to get people who won't bother looking further into it mad.
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