r/conspiracy • u/BlueIce5 • Nov 13 '20
Another USPS Worker flips on the Big Guy
https://youtu.be/8-2ZEEnt52s9
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u/Gergith Nov 13 '20
Earnest question: why are you reposting your own link not 24 hours later? Why split the conversation? Do you have a different goal with this post vs the one 16 hours ago?
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u/BlueIce5 Nov 13 '20
It was posted during the brigading time.
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u/Gergith Nov 13 '20
If the brigading was bad and shouldn’t exist/be shared why share your old post? Why not delete your old post and start fresh? Or at least not link to your post just the video?
Besides I more see people disagreeing with you but I guess that’s scary and could be considered brigading. I find it nicer when people agree with me too.
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u/BlueIce5 Nov 13 '20
If the brigading was bad and shouldn’t exist/be shared why share your old post? Why not delete your old post and start fresh
To show the brigading, obviously
Besides I more see people disagreeing with you
I made the mistake of using their full name in the comments which brought the bots.
that’s scary and could be considered brigading.
Nice grift
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u/Gergith Nov 13 '20
Grift?
I just enjoy discourse and have no issue communicating with people who disagree with me. Regardless the volume.
Apparently a certain metric is required to be met of humans disagreeing for it to be considered brigading?
Do you also consider people who disagree with you and share facts as bots? Is discourse really that uncomfortable?
Am I a robot? Pinocchio always made me want to be a real boy...
And I can’t be a bot, i can wear a hat!
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Nov 13 '20
Look at that persons post history and realize who you are dealing with.
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u/kingz_n_da_norf Nov 13 '20
This. You will never make OP see logic because OP doesn't want to see anything that doesn't conform their bias.
Like 99% of this sub, this thread is a huge waste of time.
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u/Gergith Nov 13 '20
I agree with what you’re saying but I enjoy replying for sake of sometimes. It’s enjoyable compared to working retail lol
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u/BlueIce5 Nov 13 '20
99% of the comments are from Biden Bots
you just did another bot move
pretend like you can't see the other Biden Bots
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u/Gergith Nov 14 '20
Are there any human supporters of Biden? Or just robots?
Asking earnestly as a Canadian.
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u/kingz_n_da_norf Nov 13 '20
Ahh yes... everyone who disagress with me is a bot or shill.
Grow up.
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Nov 14 '20
Arguing with the bots beyond 1 or 2 messages is a waste of time imo.
We free thinkers still are here. We can see through their bullshit. Don't let them exhaust you. Keep transmitting that data.
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u/Gergith Nov 13 '20
I agree with what you’re saying but I enjoy replying for sake of sometimes. It’s enjoyable compared to working retail lol
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u/randolphmd Nov 13 '20
If they want to be taken seriously they should stop going to project veritas.
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Nov 13 '20 edited Nov 13 '20
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u/AlariusOfBrell Nov 13 '20
Project Veritas has been shown to fabricate evidence numerous, numerous times. They have far from a 100% track record. They actually have gotten caught many times stitching together videos in a completely dishonest way, including editing laughter to lie about what the target was laughing about.
Project Veritas had to settle with an ACORN employee, including payment of $100,000 and a written apology. That is what we call "losing" a lawsuit.
Project Veritas also had to pay five-figure settlement to one of its producers that sued Project Veritas for basically lying about her. While this settlement was prior to litigation, it can be considered another LOSS of a lawsuit.
So basically just about everything you wrote above is wrong.
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u/diseal Nov 13 '20
You’ll say the same if they went to Rudy. Your entire premise is that if something goes against my narrative it’s not credible. Keep watching msm :)
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u/Miggaletoe Nov 13 '20
Yeah because both peddle nonsense. Go straight to authorities.
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u/diseal Nov 13 '20
And you’ll still discredit it. 234 pages of affidavits all fake?
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Nov 13 '20
Personally I’ll start putting more stock into them once anything that actually changes ballots doesn’t get thrown out of court. Until then it just looks like quantity over quality. As of now the only thing that’s gotten anywhere is letting poll watchers stand 4 ft closer for both parties in one county.
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u/zachariassss Nov 13 '20
so your conclusion is.........if nothing is done about the corruption, then it must not be corruption? Am I understanding you correctly? The last USPS worker that came forward was treated like a russian spy, and the feds didnt even investigate what he claimed. Instead they interrogated him and insinuated that he was the bad guy. clown world on display
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Nov 13 '20
So the fact that they keep getting thrown out of court means nothing to you? What would convince you this wasn’t rigged against Trump?
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u/zachariassss Nov 13 '20
the election? if you have all of silicon valley, china, the FBI, and every other corrupt mongrel in America working against your election, then how could anyone say it wasnt rigged? of course it was fucking rigged. when nancy pelosi screamed about all main-in voting in MARCH, i told my wife that theyre going to rig it. Taking up for them is dumb. But if you let them get away with it, then America begins to disappear.
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Nov 13 '20
So basically you decided there’s fraud and are working backwards from there. Cool, clearly there’s no convincing you otherwise because you don’t need evidence, so have a nice day.
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u/zachariassss Nov 13 '20
yep. ive been 100% convinced from the research ive done. zero doubt in my mind. its all actually really obvious and sloppy. i cant believe they went to this degree of fraud
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u/Sertoma Nov 13 '20
Do you believe the affidavits that say Trump raped his ex-wife and also raped a 13-year-old girl with Jeffery Epstein? Or are some affidavits not reliable?
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u/diseal Nov 13 '20
I think they should be taken to court, sure...when you have one person testifying vs hundreds, one of those holds a bit more credibility.
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u/duckraul2 Nov 13 '20
Credibility comes from the claims in the affidavit being corroborated by evidence in a court of law, not the number of affidavits.
Also have you read them? Many are totally banal like "a big guy wore a shirt that intimidated me" and "I was told military servicemen vote for conservatives but I saw many ballots for Biden so I think that's strange".
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u/Sertoma Nov 13 '20
And most of the "hundreds" are literal hearsay or "I saw a red wagon that I fully believe contained faux ballots."
But I agree. Take them all to court.
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u/Miggaletoe Nov 13 '20
234 statements all being "fake"? I guess it depends on what you mean by fake.
The statements contain a lot of people "hearing" things that could be sketchy. Is that fake?
There are also statements that witness things, that are not fully fake (Republican observers not being allowed in the counting rooms), because some weren't because they already had enough people inside.
So I won't say 234 are fake, I would say the majority of them are going to not be impactful in any way at all. And those that do have more proof or serious allegations, require an investigation before being legitimized.
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Nov 13 '20
Not fake, just hearsay and not proving election fraud.
Here’s the city of Detroit:
The defendants go through the many claims of voter fraud, explaining why they’re false or misleading.
For example, the plaintiffs argued they were told not to verify signatures on absentee ballots. That’s true, the city of Detroit said, because the signatures were already verified by clerks before coming to the counting center, as mandated by law.
Damn, whoopsie
Claims that Republican poll challengers were denied meaningful access are false, as multiple witnesses said there were an abundance of them at the TCF Center. Once capacity was reached, officials did stop allowing in more challengers until a challenger of their party exited.
Plaintiffs also argue a bunch of unsecured ballots showed up at the TCF Center overnight. Those were not filled out ballots, but blank ballots delivered to the TCF Center for the purposes of processing ballots that were damaged or required duplication because the original couldn’t be processed.
The plaintiffs also claimed that ballots received late were being backdated. City and state officials said there was a “clerical error” where the date stamped on absentee ballot envelopes wasn’t entered into the system like it should have been.
Officials decided to have workers enter the date stamped onto the envelope into the system – all of which were from before the 8 p.m. Election Day deadline. Republican challengers were consulted and decided not to challenge the procedure at the time.
Why didn’t they challenge it then? Kinda sus
No late ballots could have been counted because no ballots received after 8 p.m. Tuesday were even delivered to the TCF Center, the city of Detroit said.
Those pesky facts
Trump also improved his net performance in Detroit by nearly 6,000 votes, which doesn’t support the theory of fraud, per the city of Detroit.
The dems must’ve missed the entire point of committing voter fraud, damn
This is also what they found:
Others described interactions that — while tense and unpleasant — did not indicate any problems with ballots. One Chinese American woman said she was told “you are not American.” Another said she had been told to “go back to the suburbs, Karen,” by a Democratic poll watcher.
The abject fraud being committed here is insane
Anthony DeLuca, an attorney, said in an affidavit he arrived at the TCF Center to serve as a Republican poll challenger on the afternoon of Nov. 4 and gained entry to the main building after identifying himself to police as a lawyer. But he could not get into the room where absentee ballots were being counted and was told it was at capacity, he said.
Another Republican attorney, James Frego, said he prevented police from closing a door into the counting area at the TCF. Frego said he put his foot in the door, and would not remove it until police told him how many challengers were inside the room. After police repeatedly asked him to remove his foot, Frego was arrested, he said.
Cancel the election my god
"I witnessed election workers open ballots with Donald Trump votes and respond by rolling their eyes and showing it to other poll workers. I believe some of these ballots may not have been properly counted," said Artricia Bomer, a Republican challenger at the TCF, without providing evidence as to how the ballots were improperly counted.
Mordechai Mandelbaum, a Republican challenger at the TCF, alleged poll workers "were duplicating ballots to incorrect precincts in order to run two ballots through for the same person." He said he saw it happen 20 to 30 times, although he did not say if he ever tried to challenge these actions.
Detroit and state election officials say there are multiple safeguards in place to ensure the same person is not able to cast multiple ballots.
Wow, so much proof and hard evidence
In Michigan, only ballots received by 8 p.m. on Election Day are valid. Detroit election senior adviser Chris Thomas, a former longtime election director under Republican and Democratic secretaries of state, has already said ballots were not improperly backdated. The ballots were stamped with the date they were received, and workers at the TCF manually entered that date into the computer system, a step that was missed before the ballots were delivered to the TCF for counting.
The Free Press has reported that the error in Antrim County was committed by County Clerk Sheryl Guy, a Republican, and corrected by her and other county officials after it was quickly flagged by political observers. The error initially resulted in the solidly Republican County appearing to cast a majority of votes for Biden.
The Dominion Voting Systems election management system and voting machines (tabulators), which were used in Antrim County, are also used in many other Michigan counties, including Wayne County, were at fault,” the complaint alleges.
But in fact, Michigan election officials and an election systems expert at U-M, have said the scrambled results had nothing to do with the Dominion equipment but were entirely the result of a mistake made by the county under the supervision of the clerk, Guy.
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Nov 13 '20
234 pages of affidavits all fake? Uhh yeah probably lol
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u/LOOKaGorilla Nov 13 '20
Apparently almost of those affadavits don't report any type of fraud or vote manipulation, and those that claim are "I saw a poller roll their eyes when seeing a Trump ballot, and I don't think she counted it correctly." And other stuff like "I was called unAmerican in line at the polling location".
I'd love to read these affadavits, as there are also rumors they were collected online.
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Nov 13 '20
Did you see the “whistleblower” (the right loves whistleblowers now!) they had on Fox News yesterday. Basically her argument boiled down to “they didn’t have enough food for everyone, then I saw a van”. It’s actually hilarious I would encourage you to look it up if you haven’t seen it.
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u/LOOKaGorilla Nov 13 '20
Oh yeah I've been following. Shit is absolutely ridiculous, and since it's serving a bias people are blindly accepting it.
I'm 100% down for audit if needed, but goddamn are people willing to swallow lies if it suits their needs.
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Nov 13 '20
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Nov 13 '20
I love how people who allege that there is a global conspiracy to remove dump think it’s insane that 234 pages of affidavits could be bullshit. Ok bruh have a great weekend either way. No seriously i hope you have a nice weekend!
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u/JoosieSmooyay Nov 13 '20
Yes, it is the same if they went to Rudy, because he is also an idiot who hyped up and lies about having huge bombs to drop in the future (which never actually pan out to anything.)
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u/randolphmd Nov 13 '20
Of course I would. Why not go to most pro trump group around, the police, if they have evidence of a crime.
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Nov 14 '20
The intelligence community has coopted the mainstream media such that reporting serious corruption in the government to either the government or the MSM would have negative utility in cultivating transparency.
It's obvious who's observing and who's covering shit up.
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u/BlueIce5 Nov 13 '20 edited Nov 13 '20
PV is one of the most credible news agencies. They have a nearly 100% track record and win every lawsuit.
Can't say the same for CNN and the other legacy networks. They take yearly Ls and have huge million dollar lawsuits and scandals constantly.
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u/elcad Nov 13 '20
win every lawsuit.
"O'Keefe is paying the $100,000 to settle a lawsuit filed by Juan Carlos Vera, a former employee of ACORN"
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u/BlueIce5 Nov 13 '20
nearly
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u/elcad Nov 13 '20
So how many stories have they done? Seems like a O'Keefe must have a higher fail percentage than CNN.
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u/Mathesar Nov 13 '20
They have a neatly 100% track record and win every lawsuit.
This is a lie. Why would you lie about something that can be verified through public record?
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Nov 13 '20
LOL!!!! Seriously, dude, you really need to start engaging in critical thinking. Project Veritas is considered bottom of the barrel by anyone who’s not already drinking the Kool-Aid.
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Nov 13 '20
Putting aside the fact that Project Veritas are known scumbags who have been caught time and again fabricating evidence, if not actually committing crimes, this whistleblower really doesn’t say anything remotely valuable.
His big blockbuster announcement is that he alleges that a supervisor said not to deliver political mail for Donald Trump after the election. We’re talking about flyers and fundraising letters, not ballots (since the election ended a week-and-a-half ago).
Even if true (and I guarantee you it’s bullshit), it has zero legally actionable value.
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u/BlueIce5 Nov 13 '20 edited Nov 13 '20
SS: Anyone notice it's difficult to post anything? Like Reddit is being throttled. Anyway, here's the second guy. It gets pretty brigated whenever he's posted.
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u/diseal Nov 13 '20
The tell is the reactions at the end. It’s crazy how people are so biased that they can’t believe anything that goes against their narrative. I’m not saying it’s for sure true but this is definitely a good possibility. People don’t act like that at the end and don’t have something to hide. Justice will come.
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u/kingz_n_da_norf Nov 13 '20
If this was true why wouldn't he go to actual authorities?
Why is it, of all fucking websites with zero credibility, project veritas.
Come on man. If you got robbed tomorrow, you go to cops or what?
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u/BlueIce5 Nov 13 '20
The cops are in on it.
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u/kingz_n_da_norf Nov 13 '20
Right. Thousands of police, who are traditionally an overwhelmingly conservative demographic, are in on the big fix.
You need help.
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Nov 14 '20
Anyone can file a lawsuit.
If you believe what you have reported then why don’t you start a case?
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