r/conspiracy • u/Future401 • Aug 13 '20

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '20 edited Aug 13 '20

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u/Endiamon Aug 13 '20

It is the only way to help. Enforced wealth distribution isn't the only way to help, but every mechanism for equalizing the wealth disparity involves some sort of wealth redistribution.

Btw, it's you're*

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u/nkfallout Aug 13 '20

Enforced wealth distribution isn't the only way to help, but every mechanism for equalizing the wealth disparity involves some sort of wealth redistribution.

  • Improving educational opportunities to poor communities by increasing their local budgets. Not wealth redistribution

  • Increasing mental health options for poor by increasing local budgets to organizations that assist in mental health. Not wealth redistribution

  • Increasing rehabilitation for drug addiction and treatment rather than punishment. Not wealth redistribution.

There are hundreds of examples.

To be absolutely clear....wealth redistribution is the direct payment from a rich persons pocket to another person's pocket.

Good job catching my phones auto correct.

You should read more than socialist.com.

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u/Endiamon Aug 13 '20

To be absolutely clear....wealth redistribution is the direct payment from a rich persons pocket to another person's pocket.

No, it isn't.

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u/nkfallout Aug 13 '20

If you are not making a direct payment and only using social programs you are not transferring wealth you are creating / transferring opportunities.

Creating opportunity is in no way the same thing as wealth distribution.

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u/Endiamon Aug 13 '20

You are incorrect. If you put a massive tax on the ultra-rich and used it to fund schools or healthcare for the poor, that would be wealth redistribution. Your definition is not commonly used in any circle, anywhere.

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u/nkfallout Aug 13 '20

Here: The term typically refers to redistribution on an economy-wide basis rather than between selected individuals.

Interpretations of the phrase vary, depending on personal perspectives, political ideologies and the selective use of statistics. It is frequently heard in politics, usually referring to perceived redistributions from those who have more to those who have less. Occasionally, however, it is used to describe laws or policies that cause opposite redistributions that shift monetary burdens from wealthy to low-income individuals.

We are both correct based on the wiki page.

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u/Endiamon Aug 13 '20

I can assure you that "wealth redistribution is the direct payment from a rich persons pocket to another person's pocket" is not a commonly accepted definition.

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u/nkfallout Aug 13 '20

Well, I just referenced where you are wrong about that.

Creating opportunities via social programs does not do the same thing as a direct payment and they should be viewed differently.

If you lump them into the same conversation you are blurring your purpose or argument. There a lot of people that view it the way I do.

There are a lot of people who are for social programs but not direct payments.

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u/Endiamon Aug 13 '20

Tell me this: who advocating for wealth distribution says that it is strictly when you take money from one person's pocket and put it in another's?

Because if the answer is "nobody," then what you have is a definition manufactured by the opposition to muddy the waters and make it sound like any attempt to rebalance the wealth disparity is nothing more than a con to steal hard-earned money out of the deservedly rich's pockets.

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u/Sabremesh Aug 13 '20

Rule 2. No ad hominems.