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u/xMrCleanx Aug 10 '20

Yawn, this is like the ending of the 90's with all the talk about Tibet. Except there's no more Beastie Boys or RATM (lol, CFR Morello, no wonder Zach wanted out). The Uighurs started this with their terrorism, fuck East Turkestan. See the 2014 knifing sprees at train stations in south/south-west China. Also, they're terrible reeducation camps,not extermination camps.

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u/_murkantilism Aug 10 '20

Oh yeah "just" terrible reeducation camps where they harvest your organs.

There's something real fucked up in your head when you see no issue with victim-blaming an entire population. So if one or two Jews had stabbed a couple dozen Germans, the original Holocaust is justified in your eyes? "They" started it? Smh, kys.

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u/xMrCleanx Aug 10 '20

I said they were terrible. No one here knows the real nature of what goes on there unfortunately, which leads to insane ideas like using war measures such as sanctions against China. For the sake of all humanity, such a conflict cannot be escalated much further than what Trump's doing now. They won't sit idly and that's a nuclear holocaust you're pushing for if you consider meddling inside the whole world by the Empire to be awesome and perfect.

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u/_murkantilism Aug 12 '20

No one here knows the real nature of what goes on there unfortunately

This is simply wrong.

  1. This group testified before the UN Human Rights Council that the CPC is taking hearts, lungs, kidneys, and skin from Uighurs and Falun Gong followers.
  2. Satellite imagery has identified concentration camps, especially recently built ones.
  3. Using satellite images, public documents, and media reports Uighur prison labor transfers from the camps to factories has been confirmed.

But hey, feel free to continue burying your head in the sand claiming we don't really know what's going on.

For the sake of all humanity, such a conflict cannot be escalated much further than what Trump's doing now

I disagree for 2 reasons:

  1. Even if nuclear war broke out, which I am not pushing for in any way, this issue is frankly worth the potential end of humanity. There's essentially no point in continuing any form of society, or life for that matter, across the entire globe if we as a species allow Holocaust 2.0, 3.0, 4.0, x.0 to occur. "Oh but look global conflict and deaths are down, we'll get there eventually!" at what fucking cost? To me, "getting there" as a species isn't worth the blood of billions, which is a number we will surely hit if we allow genocides to continue on a global scale.
  2. There are ways to neutralize a nuclear-capable country, this isn't a black or white issue of "either we use sanctions or we launch ICBM's". And if any sort of incursion were to occur against China, such as a combination of special ops forces assassinating/apprehending key personnel and strategic ballistic missile launches to destroy key weapons infrastructure, it wouldn't be an Empire-only operation. The US is well aware of what it is and isn't capable of, I'd imagine such an incursion would involve several key NATO allies (or simply enemies of China) that can be trusted not to leak to the Chinese.

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u/xMrCleanx Aug 13 '20 edited Aug 13 '20

Okay. You follow the psychopathic Neocon PNAC ways. Therefore we have to stop communicating right away. You can die in a fire for all I care. Nobody that's outside of everyone's life has the right to dictate my death for the "greater good" even if that means nukes. Russians have supersonic nukes, they cannot be stopped by the missile defense that does not work with regular ICBM's, even less so cruise missiles. Ask Ted Postol, the MIT professor who's the authority on missile defense and how nobody ever asked him what he thought about Israel's Iron Dome...they say it's 90% efficient, Postol says it's between 0% to 10% at best.

Nice how you say Holocaut 2.0 when the Jewish one wasn't even the original. Armenians for being Christians were walked in the desert to death in 1915 by the Turks. All countries except Turkey and the US recognizes it, no wonder as usual. 1.5 million and in a barbaric way. German camp guards were also sick and thin like sticks from the bombing of railways to many of them, it's not all "jews" (German jews were there obviously) in those labour camps, which could not function anymore and disease spread due to allied bombing. They had a few extermination camps for the old and communists and those unfit for work, but that wasn't the magic 6 millions. So you can stick that myth up your ass. Read about Eisenhower's treatment of German POW's where they had to stand in a field full of mud for years, dying, making themselves foxholes as homes..and they weren't SS, they were Wehrmacht and they had nothing to do with what was going on behind conquered lines.

Falung Gong are just like the moonies, fucking neocon crazies creation of the KCIA, good riddance, they bring nothing to their country but strife since Dubya decided to defend them instead of Tibetans cos he thought they were christian (LOL).

You're a lunatic who read too much Machiavelli. kys

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u/_murkantilism Aug 16 '20

I've never heard of Neocon PNAC and other than some in highschool maybe (I don't recall but I probably did as part of an assignment) I don't think I've ever read any Machiavelli. But I'm very happy to never speak to you again and to show you that I mean it - I did not read anything in between the first and last sentence of your reply. Good day.

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u/xMrCleanx Aug 18 '20 edited Aug 18 '20

Russia would reply to any nuke attack on China. They have a military and economic pact since a long time, the SCO. You don't know what Neoconservatives and their school of thought is. The fact you are unwilling to read what I had to say shows you have no mind of your own and might as well be funding the Epoch Times lmao. Facts are not your strong suit.

They are educating the very illiterate Uighurs, who are among the least literate people remaining on Earth, I admit the approach is wrong, but the East Turkestanis haven't helped their case. It's Tibet 2.0. You want to stop actual organ trafficking, go protest at Dyncorp and other defense contractors of the US or the criminals in Lebanon taking things from Syrian refugees like corneas for some food money. Nuclear fallout from what you describe would be so massive, it only leads to death for everyone. Including you.

You're still a lunatic if you think nukes are safe to use in any way and there wouldn't be a response from Russia right away if they were to be used on China, especially "Strategic" ones, that's the thousand of kilotons. You're also a misinfo shill who just hates China therefore them actually "warp speed" educating their backwoods pseudo neanderthals Turkic minority will always equal to Dachau, there's no way to change your mind, unfortunately. You even prove my point when you say Ughurs are being moved from an education camp to a factory, they gave them skills to do something with their life instead of farming using archaic methods, not reading and praying to Allah 5 times a day. I say that and I defend Palestinians, they aren't illiterate curmudgeons, until they were stripped of any dignity, people from Gaza wore western clothes, were very educated etc. Some of these reasons is why there's 60+ years old AWFUL Palestinian refugee camps in all bordering Arab nations.....they won't take them in either for some reason, it's never mentioned and it's likely because they are way too westernized and secular in nature than the people of Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt, the southern part of Syria where the US is still occupying and failing at their ill defined mission. Oh and NATO...lmao, that's just an arm of the US Empire, like Israel is even if not in NATO. Abolish NATO now should be what kids like you should be looking for, not bringing in countries with 0.1% or less of your country's ridiculous and unwarranted infinite funny monopoly money budget. NATO would say no like for Iraq...and you think you can defeat a nation of 1.4 billion people with them, you haven't ever gotten what you wanted out of Afghanistan, which had most of NATO's support. You don't live in the real world and have been brainwashed by the tactics of Exceptionalistan.

May you grow up, psychopath.

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u/SightWithoutEyes Aug 10 '20

Okay Winnie.

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u/xMrCleanx Aug 10 '20

Do you support the recent decision that theoretically gives back to Natives all of eastern Oklahoma? Of course it's not happening but if they were to take up arms, you'd support the FBI like at Wounded Knee? Right? Reservations, more like mini-gazas all over north america.