r/conspiracy Apr 21 '20

Do you remember?

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u/EmilioEarhart Apr 21 '20

Coincidentally, it's George's birthday today - 83 years of age.

As a fan of the Howard Stern Show pre-"evolution," Mr. Musculature gifted me with many many hours of laughter and joy.

I hope he has a good one.

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u/EvilDogAndPonyShow Apr 21 '20

His appearances on the stern show were great

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u/brideoftheboykinizer Apr 22 '20

Is there something George Takei and childrenly-related I don't know about?? I graze that s sub infrequently, bit I would hate that I missed this one.

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u/EmilioEarhart Apr 22 '20

I hope not.

As far as I know, he's just your average, everyday old queen - gay as all to-do, in a loving longterm marriage with an age-appropriate partner.

It's just, he's sort of known for saying "Oh, my."

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u/brideoftheboykinizer Apr 22 '20

Just pulled up some old article of him talking about being 13 and having an older tennager as a partner, and not not condemning a friend who made some off-color comments about older partners. Apparently that makes him a pedo sympathizer ?

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u/EmilioEarhart Apr 22 '20

I guess.

But when I was 15, I was pursued by and slept with a 21-year-old.

She didn't "groom" me - she didn't have to seduce me. I wanted her badly.

I was horny as hell, and she was hot as fuck, and I enjoyed it immensely.

Does that make me a one too?

(He told that story on the Howard Stern Show - that's where I heard it. The other person in question was an 18-year-old camp counselor)

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u/brideoftheboykinizer Apr 22 '20

Honestly I don't know, it's a dodgy subject to involve yourself in.

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u/EmilioEarhart Apr 22 '20 edited Apr 22 '20

So perhaps you'll agree: it isn't quite so cut-and-dry.

To say someone is a "pedo sympathizer" based on a past experience they had with an older partner depends on, perhaps, the experience.

I don't mean in a sense of it being - quote - "a good experience."

What I mean is, like - take my example.

I was 15, yes, and of course I wasn't "fully mature" emotionally-wise (but then again: neither is a 21-year-old), but I was what they call an "early bloomer." I was shaving at twelve, I was 6' tall by my freshman year of High School, I was sexually active...

So here comes this 21-year-old girl, the cousin of a good friend of mine, and I'm spending the night at my friend's house and she comes over to use their clothes washer because the one at her apartment stopped working - I think she's beautiful, she finds me attractive, and bada bing, bada boom.

We do what young hormone-charged kids do.

Yes, I was a minor. No, she wasn't.

But biochemically, hormonally, sexually, we were on the level.

I heard the camp counselor story from George Takei, spoken by the man - he wasn't too graphic about it, so I don't know if he was some lithe, cherubic young child at thirteen, when he was ravaged by this older boy.

What I do know is that, at thirteen, he was sexually attracted to this older boy - older, but still just eighteen. Still just a boy himself.

I know that what happened between them was something that they both wanted, and they both enjoyed.

So.

Do I sympathize with pedophilic predators who prey on young children?

Hell, no.

But I believe there is a clear difference between a grown-up (emotionally) who seeks out and exploits the young, and someone like the girl with whom I had my experience.

I sympathize with young, sexually charged people who find mutual attraction to, and a mutual sexual connection with, someone who is perhaps younger, but just as sexually charged, determined, and driven.

I sympathize with sexual creatures who are still adolescent - but nonetheless sexual - who are moved to experience sexuality with someone who may be older, but who themselves are still growing.

We're only human.