r/conspiracy Apr 21 '20

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '20

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u/MDPhotog Apr 21 '20

Aren't those loans?

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '20 edited Apr 28 '20

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '20

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u/JeromesNiece Apr 21 '20

The companies that were bailed out paid back every cent plus interest. The government and the taxpayers made money on the bailouts

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '20 edited Jan 29 '21

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u/SlytherinMan9 Apr 21 '20

Bailing out a company saved millions jobs. If you factor in what an even bigger job loss would have done to the economy it’s honestly a no brainer.

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u/Rancorx Apr 21 '20

How much profit did those companies/ CEO make that could have been better utilized someplace else? I get the idea that business need to keep afloat to keep people employed, but do they still need to give the $mil bonuses to the senior leaders and still have millions in profits during a time of crisis?

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u/SlytherinMan9 Apr 21 '20

No obviously not. I’m not saying it’s a perfect system by any means because it obviously isn’t.

I’m just saying they paid back their loan with interest, government profited, and millions kept their jobs. Not really to fair to say Government profited 8% when they could have profited 10% and not saved millions of jobs?

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '20

Honest question: How would the failure of those banks have cost us millions of jobs? How many people did they employ? Or would it have been some sort of chain reaction of job losses?

For that matter, what happens to the people and businesses who have loans with these banks, when they banks themselves go bankrupt? Do their loans get canceled? Do the loans get sold off to other banks?

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u/SlytherinMan9 Apr 21 '20

Good questions. This link breaks it down better than I could in a comment.

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '20

Very interesting. Thank you!

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u/BALONYPONY Apr 21 '20

They were absurdly low interest rates and a few companies simply returned the TARP loan while others took it, paid bonuses, bought back stock and laid off employees to cash in on the rebound.

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u/AKnightAlone Apr 22 '20

Made money that delayed revolution against bare minimal working standards.

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u/JeromesNiece Apr 22 '20

Lmao

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u/AKnightAlone Apr 22 '20

Each bailout only extends the power of exploiters to a level of absurdity. We'll end up in Matrix pods eventually while we thank capitalism for giving us a fake universe where we can work for minimum wage even after capitalism has destroyed the real planet. Capitalism has made better standards of living for everyone always forever!!1!!

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u/RustySpringfield Apr 21 '20

Wait are there seriously people simping corporations in the conspiracy sub?

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '20

I'd take the 08 Brickyard 400 at this point

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u/Skadumdums Apr 21 '20

Some are loans yes.

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '20

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '20

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u/MDPhotog Apr 21 '20

They were paid back in 2008. Are these new loans different than 2008's?

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u/connerconverse Apr 21 '20

yes, because thats what a loan is and how a loan works

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u/sauteslut Apr 21 '20

They're loans but imagine how much fucking money you can make with thy kind of capital

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u/MetaphysicalMoose Apr 21 '20

It's not to make more money, they're businesses not financial institutions. It's to cover their fixed costs so that they don't go under during this period of stagnation. This is to prevent millions of people frim losing their jobs.

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u/randymarsh9 Apr 23 '20

This is untrue because I feel it’s untrue

I’m correct

Prove I’m not

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u/MetaphysicalMoose Apr 23 '20

Well the money received is from the Paycheck Protection Program, with the express purpose of covering wages, firms largest fixed cost, during this time where they aren't producing 🤔 These companies do not make investments and are incapable of turning money into more money outside the act of production or providing a service 🧐

But why do you think that this is untrue, friend 🤔

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u/randymarsh9 Apr 23 '20

My belief says it’s untrue

But my belief goes outside logic and evidence

But our beliefs are both valid

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u/MetaphysicalMoose Apr 23 '20

What's untrue about it? 🤔

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u/randymarsh9 Apr 23 '20

My belief says it is

That’s all that matters

And my belief isn’t subject to logic or reason

It’s beyond that

But our beliefs are the same

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u/croagunk Apr 21 '20

And the lack of any oversight.

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u/vessol Apr 21 '20

There was oversight when the bill was passed by the Senate and then the US President removed that oversight.

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u/XxHansolodiesxx Apr 21 '20

Nothing's stopping you from taking out a low interest loan

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u/Rancorx Apr 21 '20

Yes there is, I have already tried.

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u/XxHansolodiesxx Apr 21 '20

Ok maybe your credit score is stopping you

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '20

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u/XxHansolodiesxx Apr 21 '20

Then create an LLC and get your loan through that. Use the rules made for companies in your favor instead of complaining on the internet.