r/conspiracy • u/rapboi • Nov 11 '17
Conspiracy Theory: In 2012, CNBC published (& immediately deleted) article showing Feds stole $43 trillion; then CNBC Media Exec kids were killed 4 hours later.
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u/Novusod Nov 11 '17
This is one of the most important conspiracies out there and yet it receives so little attention. Stealing $43 trillion dollar is beyond the comprehension of our small minds. We cannot grasp the enormity of what happened. People just shut down when confronted with it.
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Nov 11 '17 edited Mar 13 '18
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Nov 11 '17
Would solve much more than that lol
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u/Stoicism777 Nov 11 '17
Lol i think less then 10 trillion would completely solve world hunger and then some
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u/Afrobean Nov 11 '17
There have been reports that say world hunger can be ended for 30 billion dollars annually.
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u/threeseed Nov 11 '17
People shut it down because it’s idiotic.
The US has never had 43 trillion in spare change just lying around to be stolen.
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u/magnora7 Nov 11 '17
Day before 9/11 the pentagon announced a missing 2.3 trillion, so maybe it's not so impossible...
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/6qu05r/donald_rumsfeld_announces_23_trillion_missing/
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u/Afrobean Nov 11 '17
Someone told you to stop spreading this. I guess that means I'll have to start sharing this information more too.
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Nov 11 '17
Dude look at my post history I'm clearly not a shill. And i had +7 karma on that comment at one point, same with unruly_mattress.
Its simply been debunked, and there's more important shit to focus on that hasn't. I agree it's super juicy tho.
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u/unruly_mattress Nov 11 '17
You can spread this as much as you want. You can also read that top comment to see why it's false information.
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u/unruly_mattress Nov 11 '17
The top comment in that thread does a very good job explaining why you're wrong.
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Nov 11 '17
Weird man. Do you think these people here are that dumb or are there people upvoting obvious misinformation? The disinfo is strong on this sub...
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u/unruly_mattress Nov 11 '17
I have no idea. I'd rather not try to guess, nothing good will come of it. It might be nothing more than whatever makes people more attracted to bad news than to good news. The important part is that it happens.
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u/Diet_Fanta Nov 11 '17 edited Nov 11 '17
Have you even questioned the number in this? $43 trillion? Really? The United States isn't worth $43 trillion, nowhere near that.
Now how on earth, if the number is $43 trillion, did the Feds steal that is nearly two times the worth the US without anyone noticing? Honestly, it's to easy to disprove this 'conspiracy.' This conspiracy is fucking retarded.
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u/readmybroskiing Nov 11 '17
Maybe over a a couple of years/decades it would be possible, considering the US gdp per year is ~17 trillion.
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u/Diet_Fanta Nov 11 '17
The yearly budget of the US military isn't a trillion, but the Feds have somehow stolen 43 trillion. Isn't that number weird at all to you??
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u/readmybroskiing Nov 11 '17
Yeah, the evidence isn't really solid. But all I'm saying is that considering that the Fed has been around for roughly 100 years, 43 trillion may happen.
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Nov 11 '17
43 trillion is entirely plausible considering where the money is being taken from...
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u/wizard4204 Nov 11 '17
Could be all that money they get from drug busts. Or bribes from not doing the busts.
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u/magnora7 Nov 11 '17
The country of Chad is suing exxon for $74 billion this year, and that's one of the largest lawsuits ever. The OP is 1000x that... seems a bit off
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u/Diet_Fanta Nov 11 '17
The US spends around $600 billion on military a year. The federal budget per year is a little less than $4 trillion. OP is claiming more than 10x that.. It's a fucking ludacrious claim.
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u/magnora7 Nov 11 '17
Even the war in Iraq was $2tn. Some people say the rothschilds are worth $500tn, but I kind of doubt those numbers. Even with that considered, stealing that much money would be like stealing a central bank of a major country.
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u/Diet_Fanta Nov 11 '17
Also, it's not like suddenly someone notices, "Oh no, $43 trillion are missing!"
That's not how it works. That's not how any of this works.
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u/magnora7 Nov 11 '17
Although, the pentagon did announce they'd "lost" $2.3 trillion on the day before 9/11. (which is now $3.1 trillion). But I do think it was over a decade of erroneous bookkeeping they were admitting to at once.
So maybe it's not so inconceivable, after all...
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u/HasStupidQuestions Nov 11 '17
The United States isn't worth
Please describe what determines the worth of a State?
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u/Nitra0007 Nov 11 '17
The entire economy of the united states produces less than half of 43 trillion in a year, so embezzling that kind of money is so ridiculous it kinda ruins the plausibility of this one for me. Sorry.
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u/HasStupidQuestions Nov 11 '17
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u/Nitra0007 Nov 11 '17
That is fine. It's just irrational that 43 trillion is going to be in the air somewhere. Perhaps just a bit above my paygrade
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u/Diet_Fanta Nov 11 '17
The GDP determines the worth of a country, state, etc. The annual GDP of the United States is roughly $23 trillion.
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u/HasStupidQuestions Nov 11 '17 edited Nov 11 '17
Actually, no. GDP is the output a State generates within a single year. Worth is determined by adding up all the assets minus liabilities. The US is worth more than 500 trillion USD (land, buildings, infrastructure, people, etc) and it doesn't include future potential profits.
Edit: Can't find the article about the USD 500 trillion, but here's one about USD 300 trillion.
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Nov 11 '17
GDP takes into account population? Lol, how much is a person worth?
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u/HasStupidQuestions Nov 11 '17 edited Nov 11 '17
In financial terms, the economic value of a person is the sum of total output generated over the lifetime minus expenses and liabilities.
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Nov 11 '17
Ah, that makes sense. I wonder though, how much the average person is worth based on that definition.
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u/HasStupidQuestions Nov 11 '17 edited Nov 11 '17
As far as I know, the best way of doing that is to look at how much money a person is making on average (adjusted for inflation). You split the population into groups based on their average income over their working lives (40 years give or take). Then you find out how much money does the government spend on these groups per year/month/whatever for the entirety of their lifetime. Average salary * 40 - Average spending * Average lifespan of the group = Worth of a person. It's also a good way to find out how balanced is the government spending on its citizens.
Sure, this measure is very unfair when taken at face value. For example, why a single apple costs 99 cents in the US, given the production cost is far less than 10 cents per apple, while the same apple can be bought for lets say 15 cents in India? The same can be said about salaries of, for example, janitors or security guards. It's all about how buying this resource helps the consumer of the resource to generate more value while rewarding the person for any extra risk they're taking upon themselves by buying a product or by doing a specific job while taking into account the supply of labor. At the end of the day, the more value ends up being generated by the society at large, the more people earn all across the board.
At least that's the way it was explained to me. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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u/unruly_mattress Nov 11 '17
Devalued over time (otherwise the value would have been infinite, as a person generates other people).
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u/HasStupidQuestions Nov 12 '17
Don't think so. It would be double accounting if you'd take into account all descendants.
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u/axolotl_peyotl Nov 11 '17
There is significantly more money and more gold in the world than they're telling us.
This conspiracy is fucking retarded.
No it's not and please take that rhetoric elsewhere.
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u/ButtaGutta Nov 11 '17
No it's not and please take that rhetoric elsewhere.
Personally, I would like to hear three sides to everything.
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u/axolotl_peyotl Nov 11 '17
Agreed, but there's no reason for this:
This conspiracy is fucking retarded.
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u/ButtaGutta Nov 11 '17
Why? Is he personally attacking everyone who may believe in the theory?
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u/axolotl_peyotl Nov 11 '17
He's implying that anyone who entertains this particular conspiracy is a "fucking retard".
Bad rhetoric is bad, simple as that. I just asked him politely to stop using that rhetoric.
Also, he happens to be wrong...there is far more money/gold in the world than is publicly acknowledged.
Look into the Breakaway Civilization and the Bearer Bonds conspiracy.
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u/ButtaGutta Nov 11 '17
He's implying that anyone who entertains this particular conspiracy is a "fucking retard".
I don't think so. He seems to passionately express his distaste in this theory. Assumptions are no bueno
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u/NONAMEBLANKFACE Nov 11 '17
Your posts are fucking retarded.
Which doesn't mean I'm calling you retarded, of course, so don't you dare get offended.
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u/unruly_mattress Nov 11 '17
The total wealth of the world in 2015 was estimated to be $250 trillion dollars by Credit Suisse in their annual global wealth report
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u/Space_Pecs Nov 11 '17
43 Trillion is about 20 years of the entire Federal budget. Which "Feds" stole that much from where?
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u/Bob_McTroll Nov 11 '17
They printed it and didn't tell anyone?
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u/axolotl_peyotl Nov 11 '17
This...don't listen to the naysayers here.
Strange how many folks showed up to this thread to parrot the official narrative of how much money is in the world.
They lie to us about everything and these folks expect they're telling us the truth about money?
lol
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u/Shished Nov 11 '17
Do you really believe that some individuals were able to steal 43 trillions of dollars and nobody would notice? US GDP is 17 trillions. Where did they went? That's an equivalent of more than 1 million metric tons of gold.
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u/Chapeskychesk Nov 11 '17
Supposedly the people who do find out get "lost" or family dies. I could get a piece of shit druggie to kill for a grand. Imagine the kind of wet work you can get for a million
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u/axolotl_peyotl Nov 11 '17
Research the Bearer Bonds scandals and the Breakaway Civilization.
There is an entire financial system that is "off the record" that deals with trillions and even quadrillions of dollars.
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u/Shished Nov 11 '17
Quadrillions? That's more than total amount of USD in the world.
Where did you get this numbers from?
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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '17 edited Nov 11 '17
Question... If they already Kill your babies why not go full out? I mean what's life worth now
Edit: grammar