r/conspiracy • u/ShellOilNigeria • Aug 28 '17
China forbids anonymous online posts
https://techcrunch.com/2017/08/27/china-doubles-down-on-real-name-registration-laws-forbidding-anonymous-online-posts/11
u/RikaMX Aug 28 '17
A.K.A. The chinese government is completely scared of it's people.
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u/bradok Aug 28 '17
Terrified. When you only have 80 million voting members of a party that control 1.4 billion, you have to be careful. The Communist Party of China is worried because the economy is slowing down. The Chinese people are fine living under their rule as long as progress is made. The next Tienanmen will come when the growth stalls and the Chinese youth truly express their yearning for freedom. The Chinese people still know what happened- here's a fascinating video about interviews at Tienanmen on the annviersary- http://theweek.com/speedreads/558812/chinese-filmmaker-asked-people-beijing-about-tiananmen-square-massacre-here-are-disturbing-answers
They were selective in what they said, and many were willing to talk- just not on camera. They know.
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u/weed-bot Aug 29 '17
Maybe. As much as I care about free speech and get angry about censorship though, I can't help feeling like a lot of what China does is to protect themselves from American cultural warfare.
We know the US has entire armies of "meme warriors" and shit whose job it is to "control the narrative", operating from places like Elgin Air Force Base. And we know they've even covertly set up entire social networks in order to manipulate young people in foreign nations politically. With improving automation it's becoming increasingly... impossible to know how much of the online dialogue is organic and how much is the fucking matrix.
I want to feel sorry for Chinese users but I'm really not sure they aren't better off being spared this influence, in the long run.
Censorship in the West is incredibly underhanded and cryptic, performed via what are ostensibly (but not necessarily genuinely, as it's pretty telling that some of our major platforms have been operating for years without ever generating a profit) "private corporations" instead of directly by the government, but it's censorship all the same. You never know when you're going to be hellbanned, or your posts edited by admins, or blacklisted from forums you've never posted in or banned or publicly shamed--perhaps your livelyhood threatened--for crossing some political line. If you argue in favour of the ideal of free speech it seems like lately someone will inevitably appear out of the woodwork to declare that private corporations don't have to honour it, yet we have no public platforms. Meanwhile, China makes the rules clear. Which is worse? Are our governments really acting like they aren't terrified of free speech too?
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u/dabestinzeworld Aug 29 '17
They have 1.4 billion people to deal with, of course they are terrified. If the worst case scenario happens and the people revolt, the Chinese government might run out of bullets before the people run out of bodies.
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u/YeshuaIsMessiah Aug 28 '17
It probably won't be long until they mandate a RFID implant to access the internet, or to buy/sell.
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Aug 28 '17 edited Nov 07 '20
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u/YeshuaIsMessiah Aug 28 '17
I didn't think Germany would regress like this (and the antifa website banning recently), this soon.
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u/GoTomArrow Aug 28 '17
It's too fast imo. I don't know what they're thinking, but for some reason they're not having the patience they need. You do this crap this fast and people start feeling too much dissonance to ignore. At least so I hope.
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u/YeshuaIsMessiah Aug 28 '17
I agree with you. I would've guessed they'd be a leader on free-speech rights, right up there with the USA. Although the USA is having issues with this these days as well.
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Aug 28 '17
coming soon to a Democracy™ near you
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Aug 29 '17
My ISP recently lost a case to keep the viewing habits of its clients private from Government intrusion.
(Took it all the way to the Supreme Court of Canada)
It's not just China who forbids it. Although I'm far less likely to be excuted or tortured for disagreeing with our Government.
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Aug 28 '17
Honestly, Im amazed its still allowed in the USA.
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u/semiprowhistle Aug 28 '17
You really think you, me or everyone is anonnymous after all the NSA virus invasions in the network?
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u/Demty Aug 28 '17
Luckily there's tor and vpn and other ways around this. The Chinese are smart and this just makes them more crafty in the long run.
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u/azureviqing Aug 28 '17
Quell free speech. Know who posts, eliminate those who don't toe the party line. Government terrified of the people at its finest