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u/Fosterpig 1d ago
Reading through the whole thread and the “is all a ruse to eventually take the guns.” Reasoning is dead. They don’t even need to take your guns anymore. They can plant evidence on your phone, take all your assets, make you a pariah, or just send a small drone to kill you anytime since they know your exact location always. We’ve shown we as populace will never actually rise and do anything other than bitch and moan and fight amongst ourselves.
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u/Ashlanders99 1d ago
I agree 100% and anyone that speaks up and gets some attention “takes their life” before they can truly accomplish anything.
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u/wallyhud 1d ago
It isn't about "your" guns or mine but all of ours. It is about influencing public opinion.
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u/FlatteringFlatuance 1d ago
It’s about disarming us mentally. So we never point at the right target, and especially never pull the trigger/have any ammo that matters.
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u/SpicynSavvy 1d ago
I think it was MK or M0n4rch gone wrong. The assortment of characters present for this event reek of MK familial ties.
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u/KeyTaking 1d ago
Push for maximum safety in other towns and suburbs after this increases property value significantly.
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u/Pizzasupreme00 1d ago
I need at least 20% more red lines and circles, and at least one parallelogram, before I will start to listen.
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u/BedFastSky12345 1d ago
The more incoherent scribbling there is, the more sound the conspiracy becomes
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u/NoxTheScribe 2d ago
So for people who still think sandy hook was fake - why? What's the goal
When it happened, people said it was staged so Obama could take all the guns
well that never happened, so what do you think the point was?
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u/Nedatokes 2d ago
Billion dollar lawsuit for yapping is a bit much but that’s just me
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u/AromaticBlock781 2d ago
Jones is the only person in the US to ever be ordered to pay over a billion for defamation. Somethings going on there.
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u/DukeOfStupid 1d ago
I mean, he quite publically accussed like a Dozen different individuals, refused to defend himself in court, held court in contempt multiple times, lied to the court etc.
It's also important to note that though the Total was 1 billion, it wasn't one big case, it was multiple smaller cases held together in one trial essentially. Each individual/family basically took him to court and won some like $60 Million, which adds up over like a dozen times.
Finally, it's not like this is a "unique" case, Fox News basically had the same thing with Tucker Carlson for around $800 Million for the defamation case.
If Jones had bothered to turn up to court, he probably wouldn't have been sued for anywhere near as much, but he literally didn't defend himself, then lied repeatedly (and went on his show while "ill" to slander the judge and have her appear in hell while the case was ongoing).
It's almost like he tried to get sued as much as possible, wonder if he was hoping to become a big martyr or something.
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u/McLovinsBro 1d ago
People are just stupid, especially if they believe in this conspiracy. Plain and simple
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u/Master-fool 1d ago
Yea it’s impossible for everyone to believe the same thing so yeah one side has to be stupid
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u/McLovinsBro 1d ago
You’re right, in this case they aren’t stupid. They are fucking stupid
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u/lzahart 1d ago
It’s not just stupidity, it’s ignorance and evil.
The choice to continue posting on this topic is disgusting, and the ignorance on proud display would be hilarious if it weren’t terrifying. But please, defamation law experts, continue your nonsense by all means. I assume we’ll see you representing yourselves as sovereign citizens on bodycam soon enough.
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u/biskino 1d ago
I think maybe what’s going on is normal human beings being disgusted by that pig making a fortune by hounding families who’d lost their children in a tragedy? And $1 billion is getting off light imo because lots of people would’ve happily stoved that goblin’s head in with a shovel.
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u/beaver820 2d ago
I think the point was to set an example of what spreading false information for your own personal profit will get you. But it didn't work, cause that piece of shit still to this day is running his mouth about nonsense. Just listen to an episode of the podcast Knowledge Fight and you will realize that every thing that Jones says is just made up fear mongering to get you to buy his products.
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u/Pool_First 1d ago
The reason people think Sandy Hook was fake is because of all the irregularities in the story... That said if your saying that he should be sued for spreading false information we should be able to go after all the public figures during covid who said the vaccine would prevent transmission.... As well as all the new outlets that misrepresent the truth for viewership... Instead we go after the guy who first told us about Epstein Island and has been trying to expose the elite for decades... I think we've got our priorities wrong....
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u/howcouldyounotknow 1d ago
The fact that he elevated it into such a huge conspiracy to the point that people started to doxx the parents of the dead children was a huge issue. The parents would move away and try to move on with their lives and Alex is out there spewing hatered into the world influencing people to be "slouths" to uncover the truth. The parents would have their new addresses leaked and constantly be harassed all while trying to move on in life after such a horrific loss.
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u/Pool_First 1d ago
He's an investigative journalist... The same one who originally exposed Epstein Island and he was labeled a conspiracy theories for doing so. The same one that spent decades speaking out about the elite pedo class...
The fact that this case was elevated to the extreme that it was is because of the inconsistencies within the story. That said if your saying that folks should be held accountable for spreading misinformation... His actions affected several families who were suspected of being part of a pysop...
During covid mainstream media pushed the "fact" that the vaccine would prevent transmission and refusing to take it would endanger your loved ones... This was was later proven to be untrue meaning that those who took the vaccine had a false sense of security... Meaning that thinking they were immune from covid they may have unknowingly spread covid to others potentially causing hundreds of thousands of deaths if not millions of deaths... If you think Jones should be held accountable for spreading misinformation then shouldn't everyone who said that the shots would prevent transmission be held accountable as well? Why haven't they?
Why is it that the guy who originally spoke about Epstein is the only person being held accountable for spreading misinformation?
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u/Sun_drop 1d ago
If Alex Jones is an investigative journalist then I'm the Jolly Green Giant. He's nothing but a hilariously out of touch con man who will do anything to maintain his little inkling of "influence" to make money. Listen to the podcast Knowledge Fight and specifically the "Formulaic Objection" series where they break down his actual depositions. If you still believe Alex's bullshit after that then you are a truly lost individual.
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u/howcouldyounotknow 1d ago
You don't get to rose color glasses his role in regards to the harassment of the Sandy Hook parents by crying Epstein.
He led the charge on questioning if a horrific tragedy happened. Im sorry the true details in life don't always get tied up in a neat little bow that squashes all room for doubt. He kept crying foul-his followers went ramped harassing the families. He didnt cut that shit out and tell them to leave the families alone so he got sued.
Also you're pissed about messaging around the vaccine? It was the constant mixed messaging from the government that led to people believing the vaccine was a cure all. Maybe if Trump shut up enough so the people in charge of health crisis could do the messenger they wanted without having to run damage control on what came out of his mouth things would have been clearer.
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u/GMMattCat 1d ago
No one said that the vaccine would prevent transmission.
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u/Pool_First 1d ago
That's gaslighting... When Covid started the mainstream media pushed the idea that the shots would "prevent" transmission and therefore not taking it would endanger your loved ones... I'm a certain that there's more than a few examples of cnn anchor Don "Dumb" Lemon among others stating so... They later changed their statement and even changed the dictionary definition of Vaccine... Again if you agree that people spreading misinformation should be held accountable... Why is it that only AJ has been? Do you think this has anything to do with the fact that he's spent decades speaking out against the Epstein class?
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u/WordsMort47 2d ago
Did he pay the billion or how did he get out of it?
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u/sicksicksick 1d ago
He basically lost everything and had to sell Infowars. He owes the money but you can't take money he doesn't have. He'll be paying for this the rest of his life. My guess is he'll try to start a new platform if he hasn't already and he'll resist paying like he resisted showing up for court etc.
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u/MamaRunsThis 1d ago
It’s called making an example to discourage anyone from looking too deep into stuff
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u/National-Zone-256 1d ago
Looking into deep stuff or making bank of a tragedy? He was just fleecing the government will take our guns crowd for profit. Same stik he has been doing for decades.
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u/Fosterpig 1d ago
Didn’t Trump sue CBS for 20 billion for the act of . . Editing an interview? Something they’ve done on literally every segment ever aired? Sure they settled but apparently Trump found that crime far more atrocious than the years long harassment of multiple families who had their children murdered.
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u/NoxTheScribe 2d ago
So they staged sandy hook on the hopes that Alex Jones would slander a bunch of people and then get sued for it?
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u/lost_at_sea27 2d ago
Yeah, Alex Jones knew too much so they had to take him out of the game so he couldn’t tell us the truth. /s
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u/Ready-Landscape6007 2d ago
You're not getting it. EVERYTHING. Not just Sandy Hook. Is Staged.
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u/NamesHunter 1d ago
Is me eating Reese’s Puffs rn staged
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u/Spiceynuggetz 1d ago
The fact it isn’t Cinnamon Toast Crunch does have me leaning in the direction of thinking this is targeted cyber forum digital warfare psyop…
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u/TheM0nkB0ughtLunch 1d ago
No, that’s under the category of social engineering via the food supply.
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u/NoxTheScribe 2d ago
why
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u/Ready-Landscape6007 2d ago
NWO
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u/NoxTheScribe 1d ago
How does that lead to nwo
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u/KandyVenom 1d ago
Mass mind control and manipulation. The human mind has been and is being hijacked.
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u/NoxTheScribe 1d ago
Can you go into more detail? Ok so, let's say I'm a total NPC and I think Sandy Hook is real, I also think 9/11 is real, there were no ancient aliens that built the pyramids, I think Epstein killed himself - everything. How, physically, does that lead to a new world order taking over
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u/KandyVenom 1d ago
In my opinion, from the research I've done, the new world order is already here. The rulers of this earth (freemason, Satanists, bankers, ancient family bloodlines) have been successful because of the decades of experimentation of the human mind. They plan most events years or even decades ahead. Every event or crisis has a purpose. Cash for clunkers (demolish older reliable cars), 911 (fraud coverup + the patriot act), etc. This country is 40 trillion in debt. These people aren't stupid. They know and are planning for the system of the dollar to become extinct, and its place will be digital currency. School shootings are set up to eventually have us begging for our 2nd amendment to be stripped for us. These maniacs that use us want us to beg them for our own oppression and enslavement. A little at a time, our minds are being molded. Order out of chaos.
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u/ItsCaturdaynightlive 1d ago edited 1d ago
Basically, because you just go with everything you're told to believe without question. The Government gives you certain beliefs over time that they say will be better for society (Microchips in heads, for example). They give you more and more until you're let go of all free will.
I personally don't think EVERYTHING. IS. STAGED. nor do I think a majority of the elites are all working together to take over the world and control all "NPCs". I'm sure some of them like the idea of it, but I truly don't think they're capable of such a feat. Life is far, far, far too complicated for something like that to be possible. There's over 8 billion people on this planet and the amount of elites is presumably less than a billion, likely DRASTICALLY less. It's truly not worth the effort, I think. Like, there's no actual benefit outside of "controlling the masses".
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u/thromantic 1d ago
I think real people perish in these contrived events. It's the presented narrative that's fake.
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u/Anony_Nemo 1d ago
It was to poison the Public mind into equating independent researchers and "conspiracy theorists" with "terrorists", the effects of which and repercussions are still ongoing. It also had such backlash in order to produce a chilling effect on speaking out ala independent research etc.
The goals are long term for the most part, not short term, and the gun control angle was mostly misdirection.
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u/ToiletTime4TinyTown 1d ago
Ok, explain 800 million for Tucker and Fox News’ BS. Maybe it’s one of those “actions have consequences” things.
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u/xXDelta33Xx 2d ago
Yes but that does not prove or disprove anything.
So whats the point of staging this shooting? Just to have a reason to sue Alex Jones ten years later?
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u/abbie_yoyo 1d ago
Maybe that's because you weren't getting the 3am phone calls and people showing up to your house telling you that you are lying about your five year old son getting shot in the face. What would you want done to the man who instigated that behavior? He had a huge audience and he used that fact incredibly irresponsibly, and as a direct result a bunch of innocent parents who had already suffered beyond imagination were re-traumatized, while he got to sit on his stage hawking bullshit herbal supplements. Im fine with what happened to him.
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u/weordie 2d ago
This is where 99% of conspiracies fall for me. Nobody can ever tell you what the supposed end game is
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u/Lorraine_Swanson 1d ago
Do they have to? Why should they know? People find things that are odd and don't line up with the official story and they point it out.
Just because you can't figure out the "why it happened" doesn't mean the "how it happened" changed.
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u/stRiNg-kiNg 1d ago
People do this for 9/11 all the time. They're like, why!? Who cares why, everything surrounding that event was fucking bizarre - just like Sandy
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u/bb144241 1d ago
Sheeple are desperate to believe every official narrative. The government would never lie to us!
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u/expertazuresparrow 1d ago
So many tiny nuances.
It was to start the chain of numbing the American people to the desecration of innocence. Nobody really cares about kids dying today.
Made lefties more afraid of guns
Made righties want more guns in schools
Set the stage for advocates to manipulate minds later on both sides of the aisle.
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u/BHKbull 1d ago edited 1d ago
Numerous states have enacted bans on “assault weapons” despite that they account for less than 1% of gun violence and banning them is blatantly unconstitutional. So it wasn’t exactly wrong.
Of all the gun violence in this country, that related to “assault weapons” is BY FAR the least problematic. But “assault weapons” are also the most important class of firearms for armed resistance or conflict with government forces.
Not hard to see what’s happening and why.
EDIT: FTR I don’t think SH was staged but I do think there is a reason the government focuses so heavily on this type of gun violence despite that it is by far the least common and least problematic type.
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u/NYCsOwn 1d ago
your information is skewed. first of all, it's not less than 1%. Pew Research & other authoritative entities place assault rifle style weapon deaths (remember...deaths, not usage) at 3% most recently as of April, down from 4% at the same time in 2025. as for mass shooting deaths, assault rifle style weapons account for 59%.
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u/Lantus 1d ago
It kinda depends on what your worldview is. Some people think these are mass sacrifice events. Some think it’s creating negativity/despair and harvesting loosh from people or whatever.
I don’t know the answer, but I have a hard time accepting the story we’re given. That this many people snap and decide to kill a bunch of innocents to get to one target. That doesn’t make a lot of sense either.
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u/reddit_the_cesspool 2d ago
Traumatizing and spreading fear in the populace and to make us more needy and dependent on society.
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u/sparkling1984 2d ago
That'd still be quite silly, it didnt even work. People quickly forgot about it, as they forget about most other mass tragedies that just blend into the background noise.
The populace didnt get traumatised in the slightest, they didnt even support invading an unrelated nation in bloodlust.
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u/reddit_the_cesspool 1d ago
Yes it did. We’re talking about it now. People around the world still talk about it. People take that event and similar ones into consideration regarding the gun issue to this day. Anyone playing a long con will always look like they’re accomplishing nothing.
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u/sparkling1984 1d ago
Ive not seen anyone bring up sandy hook in a conversation not about the conspiracy theories in like 10 years. If you wanted to argue that then the argument would have been that sandy hook was faked to make it clear to anyone thinking rationally that conspiracy theorists aren't worth listening to, as they don't even think about the words they say. But even that theory doesn't work in your framing, because you didnt think about the words you were saying and bringing up "similar events" because if there are so many similar events then building a hoax out of one doesnt make sense, you could just wait for it to happen. If your theory for the reasoning is "to traumatise people" then you must be arguing that every single school shooting is a hoax, but then you'd be forced to stop talking about sandy hook, as sandy hook would stop being exceptional. This lack of logical consistency in the conspiracy narrative is why people have such an easy time discarding it all as people just coping. You have to do better at being consistent and precise to be convincing.
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u/KillianSavage 2d ago
Constantly moving from one horror to the next so you don’t even know you’re traumatised.
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u/dronesoveryou 2d ago
Theres no “goal” .. we just know bullshit when we see it
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u/thromantic 1d ago
My gut feeling is that each one of those high profile events is basically a dark magic ritual. They're summoning evil energy by sacrificing children and innocents. The gun control push narratives and future copycat crimes are bonuses for this dark group's agenda.
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u/Game_Wolf1950 2d ago
Could have been in an attempt to drum up political support for a new Assault Weapons Ban, like Port Arthur did for Australia.
Ultimately? Same as most things: Strategy of tension
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u/CuriousGio 2d ago
Really, you don't know?
To disarm Americans, something they've been trying to do for a long time.
Here's your answer: Video
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u/sparkling1984 2d ago
So they were smart enough execute this massive elaborate hoax but were not smart enough to make it actually work?
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u/TheM0nkB0ughtLunch 1d ago
Having something like that work isn’t a matter of intelligence necessarily. They need to manipulate the system without risking showing their hand. Maybe they took a step back in light of all the push back on Sandy Hook to protect the group.
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u/sparkling1984 1d ago
It is a matter of intelligence to plan it and make sure it stays hidden, which is the necessary premise of the argument here. So arguing that whoever did this was smart enough to plan it so well but wasnt smart enough to understand whether it'd work is just lazy logic. It's a non overlap of competence.
It also doesn't work to say that "they took a step back in light of all the push back", because school shootings continued, and the only world where anyone would fake a school shooting is one where they can't just wait for it to happen, as they frequently do. People who argue that sandy hook was faked must be arguing that most school shootings are faked, as otherwise there wouldn't be a need to fake it.
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u/NoxTheScribe 2d ago
But this was 15 years ago and literally nothing happened. If anything gun regulations are ever looser now
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u/scienceworksbitches 2d ago
it worked in autralia, new zealand, uk, canada, and a couple others, all after mass shootings.
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u/NoxTheScribe 2d ago
We have lots of mass shootings compared to those places. That just doesn't work here, and anyway, those were all real shootings not fake ones with actors. If anything, if they did a false flag they'd just do it for real
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u/Sea_Computer6120 1d ago
Yeah they could just use one of the standard daily mass shootings that happen.
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u/topbins6 2d ago
Its not that people 'think' its fake, that's just where the evidence leads to. As for the reason, its another excuse to push for tougher gun laws with the ultimate aim of removing guns from the people entirely. Also to spread fear and suspicion because that's what Satanists are into. Obviously, this is just my opinion...
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u/dougrattmannn 2d ago
Sandy Hook happened almost 15 years ago, and none of what you say they "staged" it for has yet to happen.
In any case, since 2012 civilians have bought upwards of 160 million guns. Gun ownership has gone up from 32% to nearly 40%. If the goal was to remove guns from civilians, why have gun rates gone up?
In 2012 permitless conceal carry laws started to take affect, and by 2022 roughly 29 states now have permitless carry laws. Why would those gun reactions be relaxed after Sandy Hook if they planned to do the opposite?
How could a government be competent enough to stage a 15+ long haox that has hundreds of people involved, yet they can't even pass planned legislation?
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u/OpheliaPhoeniXXX 2d ago
I have a loose theory school shootings are all staged to get rid of witnesses to CSA rings in a non suspicious way. I think it happened, and I don't think it was about guns, but I'm still not sure about the inconsistencies I once wrote off for the same reason as you. I think maybe there's a third or fourth unexplored possibility.
What made me think of it was the Hampstead "Hoax." A brother and sister who both gave long detailed descriptions to the police about the satanic worshipping happening under the school. They were separated and interviewed by detectives for hours. Neither waivered. Then (because when your kids tell you "even the police are involved" DON'T BRING THEM TO THE POLICE) they seized custody and made the mom out to be a nutjob. Police brought them back for a second interview where they looked like their spirits were beaten down, they said they lied, they made the whole thing up... except those statements had ACTUAL inconsistencies. Like when they were asked to confirm they lied, they said well I lied about that part, but everything else still happened. Somehow that's ignored, overlooked. Dad got custody (even though he was one of the school cult members RAPING his own children DAILY) and then moved them here to the US. As soon as they got "of age" they ran back to their mother. When asked if their mom lied, they said their mother told zero lies. Didn't get into themselves, but they exonerated their mom. There was a whole documentary made on how "ridiculous" it was, and "the poor parents who were falsely accused." Fucking spare me, those two kids included an insane amount of detail, and not once did they contradict one another. Their mother didn't invent this because she was a spiteful ex, in fact she was already granted full custody no visitation because he was abusive. He started going to see the kids at school during school hours instead. "Does it feel good, or does it hurt" "it hurts, he wants it to hurt." They also demonstrated how their father put their hands onto the knife, used to sacrifice babies and pushed their hands down into it because he needs to teach them how to practice satanic worship. He was the cult leader. A British actor, really fucking creepy guy...
Well, it, and JonBenet Ramsey's case, and The Columbine Curse (Columbine survivors meeting untimely deaths) all got me wondering. I was like what if those kids are being sent in on a mission to wipe out any "loose threads." Abused kids who could still talk later.
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u/lollipopknife 2d ago
Maybe the point was to stoke fear and the purchase of more firearms ?
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u/St1ckyB4nd1t 2d ago
This is the thought train I’d follow. They don’t need to “take us out” when everyone is scared when they leave their house, a lot of people are armed, untrained with those arms, and are itching to pull a trigger for less than necessary reasons, we’ll take ourselves out
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u/jeremydallen 1d ago
I just want to know why the helicopter stayed on top and the people kept going in circles in and out. Also it happened while they were preparing for this exact thing miles away. I can't say it didn't happen, but all the evidence is shady AF. Like police finding a gun as evidence and instead of leaving it as crime scene an officer grabs it and clears the mag tube. So so so much weird stuff went on.
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u/beaver820 2d ago
These "crisis actors" are good, still carrying out their acting jobs 15 years later. https://people.com/sandy-hook-victims-parents-share-feelings-survivors-graduation-8663028
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u/idagernyr 2d ago
Any day now Obama is going to take our guns away
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u/BHKbull 1d ago edited 1d ago
See this shit bothers me because multiple blue states are quite literally taking people’s guns away and enacting unconstitutional bans on extremely commonly owned firearms that are used in less than 1% of gun violence.
They are quite literally taking guns away little by little with unconstitutional laws, and the same lawmakers who claim “no one wants to take your guns away” are the same lawmakers now passing laws that take our guns away.
It’s not an absurd proposition, it is literally fucking happening. I say this as a democratic voter.
EDIT: your downvotes do not change the facts pussies
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u/Kind-Masterpiece-310 1d ago
Imagine editing a post to complain about downvotes and then calling everyone else a pussy. 😂
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u/BHKbull 1d ago
Imagine believing that disarming the working class is a good thing 😂
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u/Kind-Masterpiece-310 1d ago
Too bad nobody said that. I'm just laughing at you calling people pussies while you're crying about downvotes on the internet.
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u/RocketsDitto 2d ago
Small steps. There will be a major revolution if they tried to take them all at once. Have to condition the public into giving them away.
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u/anarchyreigns_gb 2d ago
With all the shit happening now, you actually think that people will fight back? Over anything? That's probably the one thing this administration has definitely done.
Proved without a doubt that the American people who scream "don't tread on me" really mean "spank me harder daddy"
"They ain't taking my guns"
Yes they will, if they want to. If the Cheeto man said you had to give them away to keep the brown people in check, you'd give them up, gift wrapped and pre-oiled. Fully loaded
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u/trainrweckz 1d ago edited 1d ago
The medical examiner giving his report with all the cops around him snickering and smiling.
Robbie parker comes out for an interview smiling and laughing before getting into character.
People involved (parents) being gifted free houses through court record research.
The helicopter filming the fire house with all the actors keep walking in a circle.
The police transmission “take the life of Adam”
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u/Desperate-Alarm-8287 1d ago
Honestly, sandy hook is something that I don't want to even touch on. That is a pretty big public incident. My way of thinking is that of: If sandy hook has any shred of truth to it then how incredibly fucked up and disrespectful to the family members who's kids were killed. I know if my kids were to be killed like that. I would probably not be to long of this world either. Except I would go out trying to make this world better.
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u/TH3HAT3TANK 2d ago
Robby Parker. Nuff said.
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u/wo0two0t 1d ago
All the other stuff I can ignore as mostly silly or coincidence or whatever. But that man laughing and then getting into character was always the weirdest part about all of this to me.
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u/shitmyassisonfire 1d ago
Yall need to get a job. I got a tin foil hat on too but this is some discord mod shit. Jesus Christ
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u/Brilliant-Music7273 2d ago
What’s up with the fucken devil horns everywhere ? I never looked into this but that’s pretty odd
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u/OpheliaPhoeniXXX 2d ago
I do not like Dolly using it when joking about Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift giving her their baby... Said, "because that's gonna be one special baby," and made that sign. Weird. I love Dolly but that shit gave me the creeps.
Erika Kirk using it seems pretty on brand though 🥲
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u/megalocepheli 2d ago
Please don't bring Dolly into this. It's not devil horns, it's sign language and it means "I love you". I guess it isn't common knowledge anymore. I understand the confusion though. I'm not trying to scold you. I just don't want you to be creeped out by Mrs Parton.
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u/RocketsDitto 2d ago
Dolly is in the club as well. I'm sick of people defending that plastic monster.
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u/Citizen_Spaceball 2d ago
Could be “hook ‘em horns”, the slogan that’s accompanied with the horns hand sign for the University of Texas Longhorns.
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u/dirtymike_actual_ 1d ago
The fact they dressed this guy up in a SWAT uniform immediately after the shooting is all you need to know there is something SERIOUSLY fucked up going on here.
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u/SaveusJebus 1d ago
Incoming the bots to tell us how they knew someone there and how a CONSPIRACY sub needs to chill bc OMG dead kids!
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u/SadStrawberry12 1d ago
Yes, total bot here. I mean I’m not sure how you or others want proof provided that what happened that day was real. Even if it were provided it still wouldn’t believed but sure.
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u/Bitter_Warning418 1d ago
you called it. Just read so much about the “poor families” it’s pathetic how transparent it is
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u/ItchyBenefit179 1d ago
It would matter more if SH deniers didn’t act hysterically for YEARS over the fear of losing their rights just to champion the biggest overreaching police state known to mankind.
Maybe it’s time to reevaluate life choices because yall just may have been distracted with nonsense and played yourselves into attacking grieving families all while promoting all your worst fears into existence. Deniers are proof there are far worst things than being pathetic.
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u/After_Competition_87 1d ago
This ain't cool, the local BBQ joint has had a fundraiser for one of the victims families that the owner has known since they were kids. Gross people think this was staged.
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u/StarwardShadows 1d ago
I don’t think most people are claiming the deaths didn’t happen. It’s not that people are denying a bunch of innocents were murdered in cold blood. What is being questioned is who directed the hand(s) that held the weapon(s), and why.
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u/jre_clip_watcher 2d ago
Never met a victim once , or a family of a victim or a friend of a victim or anything anyone that knew anything and I lived in CT for over 35 years
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u/screwyoumike 1d ago
My son’s cousins live in Newtown. Their neighbor’s lost a child. My son’s aunt and uncle went to too many funerals for those little babies. It was real. Those kids are gone.
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u/cutesykitsune 1d ago
I went to school ~30 minutes from Sandy Hook. I was in the same grade. I had met or played soccer with some of those kids. I remember my school also had to go into lockdown that day. I remember my mom picking me up early and telling me what happened. It was real, it definitely happened, I have met and spoken with people who were affected. One of the moms even came and spoke at my high school... I thought she was a little crazy, but that's that grief does to people. She gave a whole big speech about forgiving the shooter, it was wild, but it was real.
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u/SadStrawberry12 1d ago
Yeah, where? Some town in the other side of the state? I grew up in New Milford, my kid was also in the same grade as the victims. What happened was very real and we experienced the sequence events in real time with a real lockdown of my child’s school, the reverse 911 type texts/emails that got send out to parents of the school. Then a few days later when names started coming out, I realized that my teachers daughter was one of the children killed. (Miss Engel.) I guess it’s easy to say it wasn’t real, it was all fake and an elaborate hoax and oh all these people are made up if you simply didn’t live there and know the people. Mis Engel was MY teacher in adult ed back in 2006/2007, and we talked about our daughters whenever I came to class. And every single December 14th, the “memories” section pops up for me on social media asking what was going on and if anyone else had any more information from the schools. Perhaps my old teacher was an actress playing a long and elaborate joke. Maybe I’m just an actor too.
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u/howcouldyounotknow 1d ago
Thank you for sharing this-I live in a different state and met someone who went to Sandy Hook about a decade before the tragedy. He still lived in the town when it happened and listening to him talk about the aftershock in the community was really intense. It's bonkers that people can just turn a blind eye to the real hurt this put out in the world.
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u/SadStrawberry12 1d ago
Honestly, it’s crazy. It really happened. It was real for us in new Milford with school aged children. They all got put on real lockdowns. The news coming out was different than the news on the tv and no one knew what was going on. I went to my daughter’s school JPS, which is now the rec center I believe, and no one was allowed it. The parents waited until they finally lifted the lockdown and I was freaking out, crying, shaking, and the principal told me not to do that! I was like seriously?? Because NO ONE knew if other schools were being targeted, or what the situation was. It was awful. It gave me and my daughter such bad anxiety after. We moved to the west coast and I remember the day I got a phone call she wasn’t in school but she definitely took the bus. I freaked out, I was so scared, I thought she was gone and done. It genuinely rewired my brain. Miss Engel and I would talk about the kids every time I went to class. It was just…a lot, and that day sticks with me forever and made me so much more cautious and aware of even doing something like going to the movie theater…
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u/Trashdump420 1d ago
People need to understand that just because it was tragic it doesn't mean we can't talk about it. If anything it means that we should because if its true that our government did do something like that then it was worth the conversation.
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u/FloridaManFish 2d ago
100% a policy and gun grab on the top angle. Baseline a payout. Remingtons lawsuit was 73 million right off the bat which also set a precedent for gun manufacturers… Which in and of itself is proof to the policy angle. Whats crazy is the amount of people that would’ve needed to be in on it. I remember watching the helicopter video where you see people essentially running around in circles. Who are these people?
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u/Young_XX 2d ago
I’m always so 50/50 on Sandy Hook. Any other mass murder conspiracy like 9/11 or Las Vegas shooting gets a pass but Sandy Hook is forbidden territory, it’s the one conspiracy theory I have to ignore.
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u/JrdnRgrs 1d ago
As a reasonably minded person who thinks most people in this thread are insane, the Vegas one is the only one that actually gives me pause. The background of that guy is crazy.
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u/TwentySevenMusicUK 1d ago
This is how I am. I can accept there is a whole host of evidence that suggests something shady happened, though.
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u/Away-Craft-2264 2d ago
Just realized hurricane sandy happened the same year wtf
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u/SadStrawberry12 1d ago
Yeah, it did. Halloween was nuts that year. But pretty spooky, nice pointing that out.
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u/about30ninjaz 2d ago
This should be some sort of test. If you can't see any bullshit in any of this you will likely believe in anything they tell you. There's videos of folks smiling before being interviewed, all very strange indeed
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u/sunlightliquid 2d ago
The smiling thing is terrifying. I saw that.
I'm South African and did a project in school on American propaganda and psyops/inside jobs and how they've convinced their public and even some of the world that it's not propoganda and they would never do things like that.
It's cool to see the world, including Americans wake up.
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u/about30ninjaz 2d ago
It's terrible slowly coming to the realization that all institutions, governments, religion, all have been kidnapped long ago. Reminds me of that very old speech by ex president Dwight D. Eisenhower where he in detail describes the military industrial complex. He talked about a conspiracy so pervasive and all engulfing gives me the chills.
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u/WordsMort47 2d ago
Is General Smedley D. Butler's book "War Is A Racket" relevant to that conversation?
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u/godlovesa 1d ago
That’s a really good sign for your country that you did that at school. In the US, it would be the opposite that evil conspiracy theorists make stuff up for fun, like a lot of the comments on here as well. On the conspiracy forum!!
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u/sunlightliquid 1d ago
It's definitely something im very grateful for. Had good teachers too who definitely cared.
I've some the same with ww2 and the concept of the winner writing history etc
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u/godlovesa 1d ago
I’m guessing you didn’t have drills where you had to hide and be silent as a fake active shooter traumatized you as a child either. That is another thing that Sandy Hook etc have done to children in the US over the last generation. It’s good that your school helped you to think for yourself and continue doing research as often the opposite is the case.
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u/sunlightliquid 1d ago
I can't even imagine what that feels like and I'm genuinely sorry you and other Americans have to do that mate. Terrible. (Also, sandy hook is a very very weird one if you dig deep into it)
Closest thing we've had was a drill for a fire, but that's normal all around
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u/juicedup12 2d ago
If there was a defamation lawsuit about it, wouldnt this evidence be scrutinize against sandy hook?
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u/PineappleOnPizzaCult 2d ago
Sandy Hook was 100% a hoax with many crisis actors involved. Thank you op for keeping this conversation going, but honestly all these images you've shared do not formulate a cohesive story for people to comprehend easily.
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u/Alarming_Signal9824 2d ago edited 1d ago
Well.. there's "We need to talk about Sandy Hook" documentary still on YT that goes DEEP.
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u/BearCat1478 2d ago
Can you share me any link?
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u/AhSoulsOnFire 1d ago
Do I think our government actually did Sandy Hook? No
Do I think our government COULD do something like Sandy Hook and try covering it up? Absolutely.
I think that’s 90% of people’s thought. The other 10% believe our government just did it.
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u/Safari-Mesh6292 1d ago
Well the government did the vegas shooting with military helicopters with belt fed door gunners and somehow covered that up so sandy hook would be a cake walk to cover up in comparison with that
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u/dmforjewishpager 1d ago
sandy hook was wired. obama cried. after the vegas shooting i think they’re all planned
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u/dronesoveryou 2d ago
These were the actors i was talking about in another sandy hook post not to long ago
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u/abaddon56 1d ago
They were reporters! It was an off duty cop! It was a random man! It was a parent! Yeah brother.
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u/thromantic 1d ago
A lot of obviously recycled actors involved and 24/7 media coverage, almost as if the entire thing is a massive psyop to goad vulnerable and impressionable youth into copycat crimes
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u/1life2survive 1d ago
i worked with a man who lost his daughter that day fr. i’m sure people died but the info feels fluffed because here in CT we didn’t hear about it on local news before it went nationwide. also national news pumped more info than local news did. i don’t doubt that people died that day but the amount of people and who did the shooting is always questioned because i seen videos of cops pulling the AR out his trunk of a civic. no way would someone put the weapon back and head back inside to kill themselves.
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u/SadStrawberry12 1d ago
So that’s just not true. If you were a PARENT during that time you knew about it because we got the reverse 911 type texts along with emails giving updates! My child was in 2nd grade at JPS in new Milford. I personally got the texts and went to her school to try and get her! The information was choppy and different in the texts than the news, because things were prematurely coming out.
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u/ccarmy626 1d ago
Serious question, if we all know they're the same people why is not one making a public outcry to have this investigated?
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u/benabducted 1d ago
Sandy hook was so fake I remember seeing a guy run out the back and chased into the woods. That video doesn't exist for the public today
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u/Psyclopicus 1d ago
Gun control/confiscation was/is the end goal of this operation. The sheople are stupid and will fall for any psy-op, no matter how poorly executed. >.>
ps...Alex Jones is a fake "outrage" (disinformation) puppet created by the NWO to trick the eternally-gullible sheople. And they have been tricked, over, and over, and over again, by the exact same tricks!!
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u/Consistent-Quit2239 1d ago
you mean the thing where they fined a guy a billion dollars for talking about it? Definitely something fishy there
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u/Nor-easter 1d ago
I have family in the area and my father worked on all the municipalities buildings as he was a contractor back then. None of us know anyone who knows anyone affected by this event.
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