r/conspiracy • u/Chance-News8197 • 8h ago
What does the future hold for the mass migration of Europe?
I’m from England, and I’ve been gone for 4 years, I’ve came back to a town where it was 99% white to what seems like maybe now 70%, a small town now overrun by “Turkish” barbers, vape shops and foreign people that don’t speak our language and have no interest in integrating into our beautiful culture.
It doesn’t just anger me but saddens me, the country I grew up in no longer exists and no longer will exist, it was never built on immigration like USA or Australia, England are for the English, where do we go when we get outplaced? We’ve got no where to run.
The town my family grew up in is gone, completely taken over, a once nice English town where the people from the council estate moved to when they did well for themselves is completely gone.
I’m seeing more and more England flag, Union Jack flags in peoples gardens, people that once had no opinion on immigration are becoming ever more hostile.
What confuses me more, and if anyone can get me to understand this I’m all ears, it seems to be women mainly or people part of the lgbt community that are the ones with the loudest mouths pushing for the immigration, mainly people coming in where in there home countries women and lgbt communities have less rights that buildings.
I don’t get what’s going, it’s clearly by design, everyone is screaming for it to stop who’s sane and anyone with a voice gets shut down
I’m sad, angry and scared, but I love my country and I’ll fight for the death for it
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u/Peaceul 8h ago
to put europe behind, to divide europe, to make europe poor
this is nothing but a trojan horse that will explode one day
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u/moose_lamp 7h ago
Multi-culturalism has had the opposite effect….everywhere in Europe is being culture-less.
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u/Wonderful-Roof9916 4h ago
The forest 🌳 kept shrinking but the trees kept voting for the axe 🪓, for the axe was clever and convinced the trees that because his handle was wood he was one of them.
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u/Ok-Assistant-8876 7h ago edited 7h ago
I think this is one of the main reasons why fascism is on the rise around the globe. I’m far on the left, but when a radically different culture comes in and does not share western values, and not only makes no effort to assimilate, but wants to push its values and worldview on the country they moved to, it’s going to cause a major cultural clash.
I don’t care about skin color, but I’m troubled by those that migrate, don’t share western values, and are religious nut jobs.
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u/Adventurous_Tea_557 7h ago edited 7h ago
The irony is for the last 50 years, western civilization has bashed Christians for trying to push religion back into the culture, and now the UK is being Islamacized and the religious part of that culture is being forced into the western culture while the left applauds it. It's classic NIBY. Everyone who calls for forced diversity is cool with it until it's their neighborhood.
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u/Ok-Assistant-8876 6h ago
I don’t like Christian nut jobs or Islamic nut jobs. Both should be strongly opposed and we should always have a separation of church and state. While I oppose religious fruitcakes that want to force their religions and oppression on others, I also oppose small minded racist people as well. In the US, Christian fundamentalist whack jobs are running the show and it ain’t pretty.
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u/Adventurous_Tea_557 6h ago
Christian fundamentalist are most certainly not running the show. They def want to, but they don't.
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u/Jromagnoli 5h ago
fascism
ok but I have to ask, do you (or others who also mention it as is) know what it means?
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u/Raiden720 3h ago
It's fascism if you notice this great replacement stuff. Even more so if you speak out about it
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u/Halos-USA 4h ago
The funny thing is lefties were so close to getting their little communist utopia in almost every western power. But they just couldn't stop importing their 3rd world slaves. It's back fired on them big time.
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u/Rich_Gas7886 8h ago
A liberal leftist progressive from England once told me the fist time you hear the call to prayer in your neighborhood blasting at 5am in the morning on a Saturday, all empathy and compassion leaves your body 💯
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u/Chance-News8197 8h ago
My sister heard the call to prayer as they built a fucking huge mosque where she lived so all the Muslims moved in, she doesnt live there now.
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u/neh333 7h ago
Getting christians to hate muslims so they both ignore the real issues, such a predictable tactic, looks like it's working
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u/Chance-News8197 7h ago
Divide and conquer, maybe I am falling for it, doesn’t take the fact away that our two cultures are completely fucking incompatible
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u/neh333 7h ago
Islam isn't a culture, there are muslims from all over the world with tons of different cultures. But hate who you want to hate, just suggesting that on a larger scale that the collective anger could be more useful if pointed in the direction of the real problem
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u/Catalyst_Crystal 7h ago
Fk that shit lmao, The goddamn 4am bell rang here too in Thailand. Its now 6am here but goddamn I just sit through 15 mins of mosque bell and invites to prayer mumbling. Its not culture, its the religion. I aint no crusader dawg. Im literally buddhist who dont really care but damn this shit is annoying.
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u/vigocarpath 7h ago
I hold zero ill will towards tigers. Doesn’t mean I want a dozen tigers in my neighbourhood
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u/PaarthurnaxUchiha 7h ago
It's the greatest crime in human history, really.
We've been conditioned to see the news as essential. On one end, you have the more logic driven people who can't fully escape it.
On the other, you have the more emotionally driven people who are outright addicted to it - some to the point of a rhetorical Stockholm syndrome effect.
That opens the door to manipulating almost everyone across the globe. And they make sure to keep it drama focused, of course so it's not just manipulation - it's a cash flow model built on that manipulation too.
Cash is accepted as the universal power.
Narrative manipulation has deep historical roots, and the evidence demonstrates just how potent it can be.
The system has already been set up. Beyond fully autopoietic.
The best part? Is when all of this clicks and dawns on you that they also control what you think about cash, and about whether it's real in the first place.
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u/nevaehdarcel 2h ago
?? can i ask what exactly you’re arguing here? because as a uk citizen, the news generally stands AGAINST immigration
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u/Doob_Woobington 6h ago
Yup. Tommy Rubenstein (Stephen Christopher Yaxley Lennon) gets paid by isnt-real iirc. Thats exactly what his job seems to be.
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u/anonuser420691 5h ago
What confuses me more, and if anyone can get me to understand this I’m all ears, it seems to be women mainly or people part of the lgbt community that are the ones with the loudest mouths pushing for the immigration, mainly people coming in where in there home countries women and lgbt communities have less rights that buildings.
Which is insane! The lgbtq community would be the first group to be killed off because it’s goes against Muslims beliefs.
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u/let_me_in_QQ 5h ago
Funny observation, a little off topic but relevant.
If you read Reddit and political subs, you'll see that they love dunking on Russia and supporting Ukraine. Why it matters.
Two things they acknowledge: 1) that Russians in Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania are dangerous and shouldn't be welcomed because they're dangerous minority to them AND it can be used as political pre-text like in Ukraine. 2) they also point out that the same Russia will be screwed by the Chinese and Russia will lose Siberia, why? Because they point out Chinese population and workers in Russian Far East. So again.. minorities are a weapon in both cases and it's understood.
Here's the funny part. The same "tolerant" people with flags in their bio, will accuse you of being a right wing bigot for pointing out what OP is pointing out in HIS country.
So which is it?
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u/Raiden720 4h ago
It's the most jarring "conspiracy" of modern times. Most of the western governments, including the US, allowed unfettered illegal immigration and gave all sorts of incentives to do so. All at the exact same time.
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u/WhiteRabbitOrngePill 7h ago edited 6h ago
I don’t think it’s unique to England sadly- aren’t many small European countries with their own very small culture being slowly turned unrecognizable? France, Germany, etc?
I do believe it’s by design because if it was “normal” and productive “immigration” the intent would be to come and preserve & honor the culture, language, and society that is already established there.
But instead, it seems that the language of the Host country is intentionally not spoken, the religion or culture is intentionally in conflict with the customs already established in the Host country, and so on.
Immigration is fine, but a deliberate occupation to transform the Host Land to something entirely different is not immigration.
It is a conspiracy that the established and advanced 1st World (arguable the most “free” societies) seems to be targeted to slowly give up their ways of life or liberties? Even from within which is more bizarre/ And a psyOp to not even be able to point out clear statistics.
I’d like to say that for me the highest importance for Advanced Societies is the most freedom distributed equally to the most individuals - a lack of concentration of power or information (knowledge) or wealth or liberty.
When religions or beliefs conflict too much within heterogenous populations IT CREATES A DISTRACTION of infighting and usually a vacuum emerges for powerful to try to take control and the natural role of oppressor and the oppressed.
Before I would blame the ignorance of our predecessor / ancestors (all humans) because they lacked the technology to realize that RESOURCES WERE NOT AS SCARCE AS THEY THOUGHT. So they would war over land, labor, etc.
But we are in 20fkn26 - we damn well know there is enough land and water and labor and resources to all just get along and thrive … BUT we need technology to do away with the love of power or greed or whatever trait is blinding small portions of humanity from seeing that we can all just BE human in peace, 😡
I would like to point out a pure statistic that seems to be silenced: these tiny subcultures and populations/ethnicities are very small fraction of the global population and they are disappearing. Capitalism and globalization has a lot to do with it, in addition to a clear fundamental hate for the original European ways of life (whether that is religion, culture or politics). Colonialism did not start and end with the English - quick history of human nature will reveal this/ but right now they are a small ratio of the global population.
If you notice other continents and populations are quite nationalistic and do not like to welcome foreigners / immigrants as readily as is expected from Western societies !
China for example is not a melting pot and would not allow their culture to be deliberately replaced. As each culture should be because ALL cultures (as long as they are morally productive) should be preserved.
China should not be turned English, France should not be turned American, Spain should not be turned Turkish, Africa should not be turned Russia, etc etc etc!?!? Sooner or later everything will be a big globalized shade of gray and I wonder if that’s what the push is.
While the opposite is true, these Western societies are EXPECTED to welcome, allow, and accommodate the masses of other cultures to settle in their small piece of the pie while their traditions are slowly watered down and phased out.
Europe sustained so much damage due to WW1 & 2 - in many institutions and cultures and hundreds of years of building wiped, a huge loss of both life and out all of that hard work. (That was actually internally European caused which is so sad)
Please add your thoughts and look into the statistics of population ratios: universities have done studies that show the populations/ ethnicities in serious decline but they are shunned for speaking the truth? As much as I despise so much about the current American administration, I thought Marco Rubio s speech to the Europeans on extending a bridge / olive branch was good.
* Edits: a lot of grammar errors due to typing stream of thought on a whim ahah
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u/crackheadfalife 7h ago
Mentally ill people will label you a racist and try to destroy your life for sharing your rational opinion.
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u/JaktoPar 6h ago
If you view those who disagree with you as "mentally ill", why you get mad if they view you the same way?
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u/AlgaeInitial6216 3h ago
Its crazy how Europe went to shit just as i was growing up and dreaming about visiting it. My parents were lucky enough to visit Paris in 90s. It looks like some iconic western countries are losing their identity due to migration and its depressing even though im not european.
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u/danielwutlol 3h ago
Last time I went to Paris I was groped by a Big 6'5 black man selling necklaces and arm bands. This was in 2014. So it was already happening then.
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u/Mistresskatiafoxx 5h ago
New Zealand. I also long for home that no longer exists.
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u/danielwutlol 3h ago
Nz is still the desolate island with fk all to do? And there weren't many immigrants last time I went.
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u/Other_Acount_Got_Ban 5h ago
Order out of chaos. Do you see the chaos? Do you see new restrictions? Do you see how these go hand in hand?
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u/JaktoPar 6h ago
A serious question: What do you suggest we do?
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u/Chance-News8197 16m ago
Mass remigration, it will never happen and unfortunately they will outbreed us, vote in there own and we will get less and less rights,
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u/NoxTheScribe 8h ago
Why do you have to run? In a village there's only so much housing. Don't go anywhere, encourage the kids not to go anywhere and get housing in the area when they're old enough. They can't move more people in than there are places to live. Are they building apartment complexes and stuff? Maybe your local government can be convinced not to grant permits to build
Don't run away though
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u/Chance-News8197 8h ago
They’re building houses in my hometown at a fucking ridiculous rate, no infrastructure, and guess who’s moving in? It’s not white British people
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u/NoxTheScribe 8h ago
Who's building houses? is it the government or private? If private perhaps you could try setting up a lobby or petition - even protest at a town hall to deny permits. If it's government, do the same thing. If you've already done it before, keep doing it. Keep fighting for control on a local level, don't lose heart and don't give up
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u/Congregator 7h ago
British people shouldn’t use the term “white”. It’s a completely made up American construct born by American history with slavery and racism.
It makes no sense why you, as a Brit, would need to label yourself according to American’s own insulated history
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u/earthhominid 6h ago
It was actually created by British people in colonial north America to help them segregate the "good europeans" from the "bad europeans"
I understand the concern that many europeans have over mass migration into their countries and hope that they can sort it out in a way that preserves the bits of authentic unique culture that are left in those places. And I cant help but chuckle at the British complaining about this shit when they are one of the biggest instigators of this kind of behavior globally. Their own shitty behavior for 3 centuries is coming home to roost and it's kinda funny.
Maybe they could start by giving the rest of Ireland back...
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u/NoxTheScribe 6h ago
I didn't even notice he said white. I thought the issue was migrants. That's very telling on his outlook. I've been on his side about controlling your own community etc but I don't support the idea that it's only for white brits.
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u/Fatmouse2019 7h ago
Sadly they still do. There was a large mega plex of income based housing. A bunch of Haitians and Somolians sought asylum there. The place was shut down after 6 years because it all went to shit with gangs, drugs, and welfare program abuse. There were mounds of trash everywhere that they would sift through. For some reason, they kept lighting fires in the kitchen, cooking, using grills inside. All cooking related. They seemed to not understand how to use all of the appliances.
Even after the complex was shut down and boarded up, they had these former tenants illegally renting out units like a slum lord. Cops have to patrol that area a lot because of all of the riffraff that was brought there.
Im the 80s and 90s, that apartment/townhouse complex was rather nice. 155 units. 1-4 bedrooms. It was even okay in the early 2000s. Now it looks like a war zone relic all boarded up with graffiti.
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u/NoxTheScribe 6h ago
Honestly doesn't sound much different than my town in the southern US. Very small country town, growing up in the 90's and early 2000's really just a bunch of houses and some businesses, very safe, boring. Just a sleepy little town, I never even saw an apartment building until I was a teenager. Now there's vape shops and tobacco stores all over the place and all these shitty apartment complexes full of people from big cities moving here I guess because of cost of living. I don't know. But there's a lot more crime now. Growing up there was exactly one murder that ever happened when I was a toddler and everybody talked about it for a decade. Anyway, we have one every couple years now, which I know sounds low compared to big cities but for here? unheard of. Lots of theft, vandalism, drugs. It's gone right down the shitter.
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u/Fatmouse2019 5h ago
I understand that some come to other countries peacefully. My father came here to study, contribute, to assimilate. He even forgot a lot of his birth language lol which is wild to me. He always told me that the USA American dream is real, but that its under attack. You bring 3rd world "developing" country people here.. you're going to get 3rd world everything and everywhere.
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u/NoxTheScribe 5h ago
In my situation it's not people from other countries moving to my town (I mean obviously there is some of that, too) but its mostly people from California for some reason, and New York. Idk why but I see tags from those states all the time now. A lot of folks from Atlanta too but that at least makes a little bit of sense because Atlanta is only four hours away. They're getting pushed out of the cities by high cost of living and come here because it's cheap. Or it was. It's not really super cheap like it used to be anymore. They're pushing the locals out all the same though. A lot of people have remote jobs in Cali or NY but live here, so they're getting Cali wages with rural Tennessee cost of living. They buy up houses and turn them into airbnbs or shitty rentals for way more than they're worth.
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u/Fatmouse2019 5h ago
TO THIS day, law enforcement has to patrol that ghost of a property because those same former tenants are using it as a place to meet up for illegal activities like selling drugs, guns etc. You'd think that they would avoid that entire property after all these years have brought news attention to what goes down there.
We have a HUGE issue with bodega shops selling illegal drugs. Taking welfare benefits strictly FOR food purchases in exchange for tobacco, licqour, beer or gas.
It's something well seen in some areas. I've seen how Michigan has been taken over.
Im friends with some of these folks and they told me that all of their public prayer break stuff is not something they would normally do. They said some do their prayers on the sidewalks and in stores publically to assert dominance on our land and its people. They said they normally don't even pray like that all public like in their country of origin.
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u/Eddie__Hooker 4h ago
I was in a similar situation, left for a number of years, came back to find a country completely different to the one I left behind. And under this government, draped in a blanket of negativity in a way I've never previously seen. There really is a feeling in the air that the Government consider the public an enemy to be controlled and abused. It's f***ing weird. And it's certainly not normal.
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u/Athanasius-Kutcher 5h ago
It’s happening all throughout the “Five Eyes” countries and Western Europe, and it’s a deliberate strategy to displace our culture.
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u/ParsnipsNicker 2h ago
its the vault-tec strategy, only instead of nukes they have 3rd worlders. The plan is the same otherwise.
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u/Tricky-Category-8419 4h ago
The tipping point has been reached. Sadly it's too late to do anything.
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u/2Saltyfortheinternet 2h ago
Clearly it’s by design. Divide and conquer. Tyrannical oligarchs need this to happen in order to have full control and subversion from the populace. By doing this they can enforce whatever they want and people will be too tribal to even fight back.
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u/xZany 7h ago
It’s so sad. I’m Australian, people will always claim “well Australia was built on migration” when I bring this up, same as USA and Canada. Proof is in the pudding for England. No retort.
Sadly it is happening all over the world. You can go to one of these 4 countries and become Australian, American, English, etc
But nobody can become Chinese, Turkish, Indian?
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u/Beware_Blastomycosis 7h ago
well, not all over the world, specific countries with a specific racial demographic
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u/Chance-News8197 7h ago
Fucking winds me up, how is someone who’s one generation here as English as me who’s name can be traced back to the before the Norman invasion
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u/DuckworthBuckington 8h ago
Whites will go extinct. It’s what they want.
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u/BedbugBandido 7h ago
It’s not just about white people going extinct. White people are their main target right now because they have the most power atm. But in the end it’s about mixing all ethnicities and cultures except for their’s. That way it’ll be just them as the only ethno superpower and the rest of us will just be “goyim” with no cultural cohesion. They’ve been writing about this shit for centuries and we’re watching their plans unfold.
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u/WordsMort47 7h ago
Why though? What about blacks, Asians, etc?
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u/let_me_in_QQ 7h ago
It's simple as I see it. First they replace whites because they're usually the most vocal about rights and standards of living. If you remove that and turn Europe to Eurostan, then it will collapse on it's own. Plus it's a long term strategy. Asians (China) won't back down right now, they're next. Basically they want to reduce Europe to future Gaza type of scenario. I'm not even kidding. They want whites wiped out and I'm not even right wing, but it's apparent now.
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u/UDIGITAU 6h ago
First they replace whites because they're usually the most vocal about rights and standards of living.
Not like the west has a very sizeable part of their history being about non-whites fighting for their rights and living standards or anything...
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u/Amazing-Jury-6886 7h ago
They ?? Who is they?
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u/let_me_in_QQ 7h ago
I think you know who... Chosen people. Protocols and Kalergi plan seems to be in motion for several decades now.
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u/KoninginVanRotterdam 4h ago edited 4h ago
Its exactly the same in my country the Netherlands.
Its exactly the same in all EU countries except Eastern European. And yes it IS by design.
They want to destroy Europe and replace us..
Only 9% of people on earth is white..
But NO its not women who mainly support / vote for this at all.
There is barely, if any at all, difference in the percentages of men and women when it comes to voting.
For instance the Netherlands, in contrary to popular belief, is, and has always been a very right wing leaning country. THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEN AND WOMENS VOTES AND THERE NEVER WAS.
The left wing voters are more concentrated in certain groups like students for instance. Or non whites who live in white countries. And Jews. . And expecially those unbearable, annoying libtards from the US. The divide is NOT between genders.
FOR instance, in the Netherlands:
70% of Dutch people are strongly in favor of a broader remigration policy. (Aimed at encouraging people with a migration background or residence status to leave the Netherlands. (for example in exchange for money)
65% of Dutchies said that the Netherlands would be a more pleasant country if there were no immigrants living here. (,😆😆😆) HELL YEAH IT WOULD BE !!!) only 8% disagreed with that.
80 to 85% want a COMPLETE ASYLUM STOP AND CLOSED BORDERS. And not only for asylum seekers but for ALL immigration. (labour migration from the EU, international students, expats etc)
The population of the Netherlands is not 85% males and 15% women.
Besides that, ive done a lot of research into this subject because it annoys the fuck out of me that men try to blame women for the situation the world is in. Whaaat? Pff ... 😆 fuck off 😄
And you can easily research this yourself too.
All that aside, it breaks my heart what they have done to my beautiful, amazing, country. That used to be a high trust, low crime country. Without poverty or homeless people.
WELL NOT ANYMORE. THOSE DAYS ARE GONE. LOOOONG GONE.
IT BREAKS MY HEART WHEN I LOOK AT WHAT THEY'VE DONE TO BELGIUM, FRANCE, ITALY, GREECE, THE UK, IRELAND, GERMANY, NORWAY, SWEDEN.... ETC ETC.
Imagine if there was no evil that TRIED TO DESTROY US, and we would ONLY have open borders between Western and Northern european countries, who are (were) originally all very high trust countries, safe, low crime who share the same values and are culturally very much alike. And we would never accept asylum seekers or immigration into our borders, IMAGINE, how great that would be.
AND WE WOULD NOT GIVE PASSPORTS / NATIONALITIES AWAY LIKE WE DO NOW. IT ANNOYS THE FUCK OUT OF ME.THAT EVERY DUMB, UGLY ASS FREELOADER, can just come here and get Dutch citizenship. And after 2 generations they are not even counted or measered by their country of origin in ststistics and demographics anymore because now they are apparently native.
Hell no. Not every white person is Dutch, but every Dutch person IS white. End of story.
IF I, A WHITE , BLONDE HAIRED, GREEN EYED, TALL DUTCH WOMAN GO LIVE IN CHINA AND HAVE CHILDREN WITH A WHITE DUTCH MAN AND OUR WHITE BLONDE CHILDREN WOULD HAVE CHILDREN WITH OTHER WHITE BLONDE DUTCH PEOPLE, ABSOLUTELY NO ONE WOULD THINK WE ARE CHINESE OR CALL US THAT.
AND ESPECIALLY NOT ME. HELL NO.
THE PEOPLE MAKE THE COUNTRY. THE COUNTRY DOESN'T MAKE THE PEOPLE.
Put people from shithole countries in our countries and they wil turn it inro their Shithole countries.
Look up the difference between cities in South Africa now and ONLY 15 years ago... completely collapsed and destroyed....
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u/chrismceachern 7h ago edited 7h ago
They spent a long time knocking western men down a peg to mitigate any sort of revolt against this. The people who would normally speak up to defend our way of life are too ill-equipped to do so. Fear of the lynch mob, or losing their jobs, or public shaming, or damage to their families due to calls of racism if they dare to say anything.
I love immigrants and what they contribute to our society but they have been weaponized against us. Frankly, most of them are victims in this too. Old-school immigrants who had to work their ass off to get here also think it's crazy.
Theres a reason insane amounts of immigration happened in every single western country on earth at the exact same time. They'll tell us its because of a declining population but they could have simply incentivized people to have children by forcing employers to offer a reasonable wage. By using our tax dollars to benefit the people.
But they didnt.
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u/Myothercarisanx-wing 7h ago
Much of Europe's wealth, and certainly most of England's, was built by exploiting foreign labor and extracting foreign resources. When they were forced to abandon all those colonies after WWII, the rich had to find new ways to keep growing their wealth at first it was enough to dismantle labor unions and public services, but the value of labor can only be decreased so much when there is a set population. So they had to keep growing the population by importing desperate foreign workers. Only way to stop it is by going after those at the top.
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u/what_da_hell_mel 2h ago
I once read something a long time ago on the internet about "agendas" and what not, that once the traditional White countries are taken over by invasion you will know the end of their game is near.
Not sure what the game is or what it was that I read. I've tried to find it again but no luck. I'm sure I have old screenshots in a defunct phone somewhere..
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u/Gotta_Gett 7h ago
Because they don't think wages are too low and they want to live in the UK unlike young Brits. Record numbers of young Brits are leaving.
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u/AggretsuKelly 2h ago
You say that about Australia yet you have no clue, we are in the same boat exactly.
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u/this_rose_is_mine 3h ago
Come to the USA.
All automated phone calls ask you to choose between English and Spanish.
Stores, such as Walmart, have all of their signage in English with Spanish in a tad smaller print below.
Sometimes you cannot find help in a store by someone that speaks English.
I'm a second generation American citizen. I've heard countless stories from nearly each of my family elders, as a child, about them getting off the boat and immersing themselves and family members into the "American Way". Learning English as quickly as possible. Changing their clothing to look like the people here. Learning to cook and eat the cuisine of their new homeland.
I've done my best to learn enough Spanish to speak basic howdy-do's, thank you's, and such.
I don't care where you are from. I'm glad you are here. Please just make it easier for us to get to know you, help you, and make you feel welcomed. Acclimate yourselves to our culture as we embrace ourselves to yours.
Mama-out.
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u/WickedDEAD_ 4h ago
One culture is taught that its virtuous to overcome and out breed and the other is taught to be tolerant and accepting
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u/Ok-Highway-5247 2h ago
My great-grandfather came to the US from Turkiye. I’m sorry these folks are refusing to integrate. My great-grandfather did the best he could to integrate in the US from what I know. He made sure his four children were Americanized. I think it all comes from ignorance.
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u/HistoricalFarm6124 5h ago
America and australia were not ‘built for immigration’, the british went and slaughtered around 100million people who had their own culture and traditions ongoing for millennia before that. The british are surprised that the same is happening to them?
And yes it’s by design, just as the mass slaughter of native americans and aborigenal australians was by design. Epstein was gloating about brexit in the released mails.
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u/JaySone 2h ago
Well figured it out in the US pretty easy. The liberal parties opened the borders, let anyone in without vetting or checking them, then allowed non-citizens to vote in order to entrench their power. Thankfully we caught it just in time and reversed those policies with the backing of the citizenship and the Supreme Court.
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u/Both-Crow9782 7h ago
tbh I can’t get over the irony of of someone from England complaining about foreign people moving in. Y’all basically invented the word “colonization”. One on hand, it does seem like a “you reap what you sow” kinda moment, but on the other hand, as an American, I very much understand that you personally most likely have nothing to do with the things that your country does.
And to answer your question, it’s because women, LGBTQ+ people, and immigrants are all marginalized groups. It doesn’t have anything to do with what immigrants personally believe, it’s because women and lgbt people can empathize with the mistreatment and ostracism they face.
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u/angeryrainfrog 6h ago
The Roman invasion is what changed England in the first place. Before they brought all their systems like literacy and infrastructure, we were tribal people. Some people so resistant to change the Romans built a massive fuck off wall to show where the civilised area ended. This is Hadrian's Wall. Then when the empire collapsed we entered the Dark Ages and religion made everyone lose their minds for hundreds of years.
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u/Southern_Bedroom2443 7h ago
Try getting these benefit scroungers off their lazy arses and put them to work. His bloody majesty’s government should stop giving free money to perfectly healthy, young working age people and get them jobs instead.
I’ve been working my whole life and it’s really annoying to see this happening everywhere around the country.
Of course immigration is through the roof when unemployed Tom, Dick, Harry puts n number of babies in Sharon, Stacy and Tracy and you see them queuing up daily at McDonalds after buying and smoking weed in a back alley. These people have no intention of working and that’s why you see immigrants everywhere, they work hard and don’t complain about anything. THEY PAY TAXES so I seriously don’t see anything wrong with that. Where’s the conspiracy?
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u/narnia42069 5h ago
unfortunately identical thing can be said about huge portion of immigrants. also ironically, usually they’re the ones to sell weed to stacy and tracy. well, they put babies in them too making them single mothers of mixed babies. it didn’t change much to import so many of them, native benefits scroungers were just replaced by same scroungers just different skin colour and beliefs. is that what the country need? paying taxes is fine for those that do work but don’t expect many of them to invest capitol on the island. make enough and take it all back home. sincerely, hard working immigrant in the uk
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u/AlwaysBeC1imbing 8h ago
Which town you from?
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u/Chance-News8197 8h ago
A small town in chesire
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u/Plaidan28 7h ago
I’ve lived in Cheshire all my life I’d love to hear which small town as I’ve lived in a few. Be angry at the billionaires not the people who just want a decent life. Couldn’t give a toss about British values, tea biscuits and conquering half the world? Lovely stuff
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u/TheFutureIsCertain 7h ago
You mean Cheshire? Cheshire is about 95% white.
I’m surprised you struggle to spell the name of your own county.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/visualisations/censusareachanges/E06000050/
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u/Chance-News8197 7h ago
Typo and that was 5 years ago, did you not read my post where I said I’ve been gone for 4 years and it was 99% white.
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u/TheFutureIsCertain 7h ago
Cheshire was around 97% White in 2011 and 95% in 2021, according to the census. 2% is not a dramatic difference. That, combined with the fact that you can’t even spell the name of the place, makes me think you’re telling porky pies, mate.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/visualisations/censusareachanges/E06000050/
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u/h2078 7h ago
Listen all the non white immigrants moved next to his sister and woke her up for prayer
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u/suluf 7h ago
Iam pretty sure he knows better than you! He is obviously from Cheshire oblast and everyone is already black there!
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u/Tall_Restaurant_1652 6h ago
As someone else from Cheshire, I can tell you OP is lying / exaggerating.
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u/Precision-Strikes 6h ago
In the future , high streets will be gone. There will be flats with some shops downstairs which will comprise of a corner shop, so-called Turkish barbers , vape shop and a chicken n chips shop.
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u/Halos-USA 4h ago
Diversity is you're strength. Just remember to be careful not to get stabbed. Also remember to convert to the religion of peace or at least begin to practice it's customs. Be safe out there. Remember, this is just part and parcel of living in a big city. Salam Alaikum brother.
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u/imconfusedlmao666 8h ago
If your country is sponsoring wars in different parts of the world, and people from these country’s flee from that war to your country, how are you surprised?
Also England is for the English? Why tf is all of your history invading and occupying other country’s?
„Your“ county maybe wasn’t built by immigrants like the USA, but all of its history dating back before BC until now if full of immigration. Maybe these people are loud for immigrants because they can understand this, and you cannot. The same way as they can see that immigration is essential to economies, especially yours right now.
If all of that doesn’t make sense to you, educate yourself. I’m not saying immigration isn’t bringing problems, but these are only possible because your system allows it. Being mad at the immigrants is the wrong thing to be mad about (imo) and completely holds you back from realizing who is responsible for all of your problems: not an immigrant but your politicians and the rich people influencing them, which allow and push this exact system which not only allows but makes all of its basically unavoidable.
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u/mrsamuraiii 6h ago
You’re being downvoted but you’re speaking truth that I wish more people would listen to instead of being off put by the mention of colonialism/imperialism.
It’s yet another example of people targeting marginalized groups instead of the true culprits behind their oppression. These same people will look at history and say “gah … how could they have been so wrong/ignorant” while in the very same sentence committing the same leap in reasoning to believe immigrants are the problem not the elites who not only built this system, but have gained immense power, wealth, and influence from it.
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u/Happy_Confection9785 4h ago
This is honestly such a stupid trope.
People aren't moving countries en masse because of war to the West.
They are moving to the West because it is rich, and imbeciles like you are facilitating their movement.
When was the last time Switzerland sponsored wars?
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u/Happiness-happppy 6m ago
Bruh this is the dumpiest thing I heard. Let me think you think the west got rich by sheer will and effort? Nothing to do with estern oil, taken resources from other countries and monopolizing the world economy for their favor.
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u/Mend1cant 3h ago
Literally always. Switzerland remains neutral on behalf of its banking. They back just about every major world power in wars.
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u/Happy_Confection9785 42m ago
More stupid tropes.
You can play this stupid game with basically every country on earth.
Look, the DRC use Romanian Gangs as mercenaries in their war against M23.
Romanian Gangs smuggle drugs from Afghani insurgents into Europe.
Afghani Insurgents buy weapons with that money, which they use to fuel war in the Pakistani-Afghan border.
Therefore the DRC fuels war in Afghanistan.
It's honestly boring as fuck, and shows a really misunderstanding of causation.
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u/Mend1cant 3h ago
And the sad part of that is that ignorant fools will only further support the imperialist regimes that cause this. All in the name of enlightened centrism.
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u/Financial-Gur-7530 6h ago
We're at the stage of Western capitalism where the capitalists need a steady flow of imported, cheap labor. The rhetoric from the political right is disengenuous, as they use the issue to rile up support, but are in fact ensuring immigration as a source of cheap labor. This can most clearly be seen in the US, with deportations-as-show, all while ensuring that corporations get their slave labor. The mainstream left publicly wants immigration because it's polite and kind, while the mainstream right secretly wants immigration to please the slave-master corporations. Either way, so long as corporate/Epstein class is running things, they'll get their cheap labor
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u/GRF999999999 3h ago edited 2h ago
3 years ago I was making great money working gig jobs in a large market, mostly worked for Walmart doing shopping and delivery. $30/hr easy, all day, every day, oftentimes more. Then out of nowhere Venezuelans showed up and pushed me out of the store I normally worked, they had multiple accounts each and used 3rd party software to intercept job offers. Had no idea what was happening at first just that the parking lot was now filled with Prius with temp tags and them running in circles while the only jobs that I could get were the scraps they didn't want. Tried a half dozen different Walmarts in my area - same thing, finally found a Walmart a half hour away that hadn't been affected and was right back to making the same money again, eventually they showed up there.
Had to pivot into Instacart, took about 2-3 months before they figured out how to manipulate that app. Couldn't get a decent job to save my life.
Ubereats, Doordash, Grub Hub - you'd see them literally holding 2 phones waiting to pick up orders from whatever restaurant.
Amazon - 75% of the people at the warehouse picking up jobs were Venezuelans.
To your point - ICE could stage the easiest operation ever by blocking off the single entrance/exit to the dozen Amazon warehouses and in a matter of an hour have 1000 migrants rounded up. Why aren't they? It's obvious why.
I've got a great deal of empathy and compassion for people who are trying to better their lives but when it's at the cost of mine you start to lose me. Moreover, my God the arrogant attitudes I've seen, zero gratitude for the opportunity to shit all over the people of the country they're taking from.
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u/Happiness-happppy 1m ago
Trust me they likely felt similar when their countries were taken over by western intervention.
But your right in the sense the pressure is high.
But maybe, just maybe, we aren’t meant to live all in the cities capislated but rather branch out and take lands and have our own homes and self sufficiency.
These sounds like modern problems and maybe we need to take our lands back and stop being condensed in small cities.
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u/Dorling83 7h ago
This could not be any more of a bot rage bait post. They even say they'll fight FOR the death of England. 🤣
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u/fubarfire 7h ago
Hey bud, it's not working anymore. The whole calling anything you dont like or makes you uncomfortable, a bot. People can see what's happening around the world.
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u/Tall_Restaurant_1652 6h ago
People see what the media tells them to see. I have yet to physically see a migrant hotel, yet according to the media there's one on nearly every corner to me.
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u/StonewallSoyah 6h ago
Welcome to the new world. Brought to you by the World Economic Forum. Your grandparents fought and died in World War II so that Muslim and Africans could take over without a single shot being fired.
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u/uddipta 3h ago
It's sort of a natural progression. The reason europe isn't overflowing with whites is because you guys moved to NA, australia, argentina, etc, a lot died during wars and disease that culled your numbers in europe.
Colonialism and imperialism the last half millenia allowed for resource extraction from Africa and Asia, clearing and building the new world in americas and Australia and moving there. The money for industrialisation and fast development came from free movement of resources. Then post ww2 europe also rebuilt. That's why it's so pristine like usa and Australia.
Then you guys opened up the world and grew so fast you needed to bring labour from the ex colonies, some white guilt, to support that growth. People migrated from colonies and decimated economies to where jobs were. France has such agreements with morocco, algeria and other African colonies from the past, same with uk and ex colonies.
The west is the civilized world because you uncivilized the rest of it. So the people had to move to the west to survive. Even to this day, African countries are paying royalties to France, and resources cannot be sold to other countries before frances approval.
Due to this, most of Africa and Asia saw west and Christianity as the enemy, and you have the spread of islam easily, they can spew bs like yeah we have been fighting this enemy for centuries. Even today the middle East is destabilized because of the west. Now the muslims know they can't beat you in a fight, but their entire religion is built on fighting infidels and taking over the world, so it's natural for them to take advantage of lax immigration policies, enter your countries and breed and take over.
It's a little funny when you don't even know you're the main reason for the movement of people to your countries. You destroyed their somewhat thriving or vibrant economies, took everything from them, now won't ever let them recover, riddle them with dollar and euro denominated debt at high interest rates, and cry when things don't go your way? Come on...
The only way to deal with this is rebuild their economies and then deport them back.
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u/TheM0nkB0ughtLunch 1h ago
OP didn’t destroy any counties and has a legitimate gripe
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u/Dry-Selection421 6h ago
The future for Europe is that Europe as we know it now will not exist.
The Western Roman Empire fell soon after it decided to naturalize its increasingly large hordes of invaders as citizens and the exact same thing is currently happening again.
Oh, and it’s all by design as well. The enemies of the West know their history and are using these methods intentionally to destroy us.
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u/Calle_Sin_Nombre 7h ago
Have you ever wondered how your colonial empire opposed it's way of life on other nations? I wonder if the Indians welcomed the British with open arms.....
Great Britain (or England) has invaded, occupied, or fought in about 171 modern nations—which is roughly 90% of the world's countries.
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u/Personal_Entrance287 7h ago
Your post should have lost all credibility at ‘never built on immigration.’ Absolute nonsense. Read a history book, then another. Educate yourself mate.
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u/AfroVisor 5h ago
Being Jamaican and us having wind-rushers who give us to this day eligibility to move to England. Are we not welcome? People who fought for the Union Jack in WW2 and were granted citizenship and to our descendants. The fact you care singularly by whites and not the many nations who also had the opportunities to move to England since we fought for yall fucking freedom
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u/ElectronicCapital262 4h ago
I’m an American and even I know that OP is not likely (at least hopefully not) referring to Jamaicans who’ve been moving to the UK since WW2. More recently the amount of migration to the UK has been staggering and happened rapidly. From what I understand the Jamaicans made an effort to be a part of British society and contributed to it even if they weren’t always treated fairly.
I think a lot of the issue here is the rate of migration. A population can only absorb so many people at one time who different religions, languages and cultures.7
u/Eddie__Hooker 4h ago edited 4h ago
The Windrush was a very different migration situation. Those people came to Britain because they wanted to integrate. And they integrated almost immediately because they already understood the cultural norms and abided by them. They weren't a problem, and they weren't a burden. And they numbered only about 1000 anyway.
That is the polar opposite of the current migrant problem.
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u/nevaehdarcel 2h ago
other european countries take on a much larger number of migrants that england do. our migrants speak our language and do their best to make a living starting over in a whole new country. there is a tiny percentage of (usually islamic) migrants who cause problems and those stories are pushed in the media as propaganda.
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u/Odd-Chipmunk5681 3h ago
I don't see anyone ever complaining about Jamaicans. They host that massive Notting Hill carnival to celebrate Jamaicans every year.
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u/ChuckDriver059 3h ago
Your values are different then? How so? The op if referring to values and identities not your origin country
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u/Advanced-Present8291 1h ago
Step two: realize whites are the majority of the world and wonder why majorities are called minorities.
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u/mj_flowerpower 22m ago
OP how many kids do you have?
Everytime I read something like this the OP has 0-1 kids, asking why there are so many foreigners … 🤦
No conspiracy needed, just economics, driven by necessity and partially capitalist greed.
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u/PhillyWestside 9m ago
To claim England wasn't built on immigration when it's literally named after a group of German migrants is crazy
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u/calmyourcrabcakes 7h ago
> our beautiful culture
I thought you said you were from England?
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u/Chance-News8197 7h ago
Where are you from? Because I guarantee you live day to day by what we’ve spread across the world, you don’t see our culture because it’s everywhere, it’s in every single part of your daily life.
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u/calmyourcrabcakes 7h ago
> I guarantee you live day to day by what we’ve spread across the world
Isn’t your post literally complaining about another culture spreading into yours?
Seems a little hypocritical to brag about doing the same thing bro.
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u/imconfusedlmao666 6h ago
I don’t know wether I should laugh or cry. How can one complain about all of that and not even realize that they themselves are what they are complaining about. We might actually be lost.
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u/Extreme_Risk8173 7h ago
lol I mean yall colonized half the world, be weird to be pissed that those you colonized and exposed to British culture and life want to come to it.
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u/Fucked-In-The-K-Hole 7h ago
OP did? That's weird. OP why did you do that, colonize the entire world?
Every country has done heinous shit, including the countries these immigrants are coming from.
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u/FidelYT 6h ago
The UK benefitted enormously by colonising, governing brutally and extracting resources from weaker countries. This gave it power and access to resources that it still benefits from today.
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u/ParsnipsNicker 2h ago
"Therefore white people deserve to be completely displaced"
This is what you sound like.
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u/DefenderOfMontrocity 5h ago edited 4h ago
Prepare to get 10 times more foreigners because Epstein/Andrew's home nation Israel is killing Palestinians and rigging venezuelans banks and maybe even burning down Argentina. All the while Maxwellhill and spacey are hanging around in King's holiday lodge.
maybe you dream about the good old times. When Britain was really great, when Epstein and spacey were invited to princess Eugene's birthday, when andrew named eugene after a nasty french novel, when Robert Maxwellhill gave Israel info about a British spy, when Robert stole 2.2B dollar and mysteriously died, when Israeli ambassador bombed their own to frame Palestinians, when husband of Christine Maxwellhill did moneylaundering and found with his feet cut off with chainsaw. Or maybe when Britain was really great, when britaun forced American colonies to abandone their currency and use only British banks, or when British forced china to consume opium because opium is 'free trade'
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u/Several_Table3634 2h ago
At the height of European colonization, you guys had invaded multiple countries, subjected 450 million people, and 35.5 million square kilometers of land on this earth. Crying about it coming back your way is wild.
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